2012-13 Hot Stove League Thread

[CabreraMVP]

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The Royals may very well win 90 games. However a ton needs to go right for them to even get close. Shields and Davis will definitely increase our win total but they aren't going to get us to the playoffs... that's on Hos, Moose, Butler and Gordon. Your right about Wade Davis though, I'm not really sure if I see him winning 10 games but you never know, a young Zack Greinke came out of the bullpen early in his career and 2 years later won the Cy Young.

Harold Reynolds has a knack for saying some weird stuff sometimes.... I think earlier this season I heard him say that Johnny Damon and Zack Greinke were going to come back to the Royals for 2013 and that the Royals had the payroll to do so...

If everything goes right, they could win 90. I wouldn't bet on it. But if they do win 90, it's not because Shields and Davis both had a WAR of 10 like Reynolds thinks. Lol.

[thefakeJTS]

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I don't understand how a young guy loses power like Lars unless he was on the juice and stopped before he got caught. I understand power fades with age, but it is not very common while still a prospect. A lot can go wrong for prospects like not being able to make contact, but usually their power is still there.

[ShowTyme15]

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Reds took a flyer on Mark Prior today.

[thefakeJTS]

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I wish Atlanta could have Omar Infante back for Dan Uggla. I was so excited when the trade first happened, but now it is two years later and I wish we could trade Uggla for a PTBN or anything for that matter.

[TheMatrix31]

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Okay he's not exactly my favorite player ever but, c'mon now. Let's stop saying things that we both know are complete fabrications.

[Sportsforever]

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I wish Atlanta could have Omar Infante back for Dan Uggla. I was so excited when the trade first happened, but now it is two years later and I wish we could trade Uggla for a PTBN or anything for that matter.

Not even close...Uggla, as frustrating as he is, is one of my favorite guys on the team because he at least looks like he cares and I have NEVER not seen him hustle. He is more valuable than Infante...

That said, his lack of contact in ST is disconcerting, but we saw this coming. Bulky, power hitting middle infielders do not age gracefully. He is 32 and once the bat speed goes he's going to be done. It was a bad deal to give him 5 years to begin with...it is what it is.

[Dog]

I am all for the Braves trading Uggla for some PTBNL.

[rdnk]

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Dan Uggla had a WAR from 6.0 the past two years, and Omar Infante had a WAR of 5.9... To be fair most of Infante's value has come from his defense.

[Sportsforever]

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Dan Uggla had a WAR from 6.0 the past two years, and Omar Infante had a WAR of 5.9... To be fair most of Infante's value has come from his defense.

Don't get me wrong, I loved me some Infante and he's a great guy to have because of his versatility. The Braves have plenty of good glove, no-hit infielders though. Uggla's average to below average glove with some pop fits in just fine...now if he'll just bounce back and have a 4 WAR year I'll be happy.

[rdnk]

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Don't get me wrong, I loved me some Infante and he's a great guy to have because of his versatility. The Braves have plenty of good glove, no-hit infielders though. Uggla's average to below average glove with some pop fits in just fine...now if he'll just bounce back and have a 4 WAR year I'll be happy.

Tigers are the opposite. We have lots of all bat, no glove infielders. I can't imagine having Uggla along with Miggy and Fielder.

[thefakeJTS]

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Okay he's not exactly my favorite player ever but, c'mon now. Let's stop saying things that we both know are complete fabrications.

I understand everyone has different opinions, but the team has power up and down the lineup and a TON of potential strikeouts. Infante's defense up the middle with Simmons would be great. I'm not saying Uggla is terrible. I just wish that we could get out of his contract. However, this would be something to actually talk about if we had a second baseman to replace him, but we don't.

[Majingir]

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Rogers Centre officially removed the windows from the OF!



First time ever that this dome will be like that.

[55]

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Just makes The Show more out of date!

[DieHardYankee26]

Tigers are the opposite. We have lots of all bat, no glove infielders. I can't imagine having Uggla along with Miggy and Fielder.

Just out of curiosity, how many 100 homer infields have there been? That would be interesting. Miggy, Prince, and Uggla in the heart of a lineup could be really good.

[TheNumber35]

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Just out of curiosity, how many 100 homer infields have there been? That would be interesting. Miggy, Prince, and Uggla in the heart of a lineup could be really good.

The 09 Yanks did it with 112 between 1B, 2B, SS, and 3B. Not even including Posada (didn't know if we wanted to count catchers or not)