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  • Mt Oread
    Banned
    • Nov 2012
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    #106
    Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

    Originally posted by Blzer
    No no, I know what it is (remember, I own 2K10). I just laughed that there was an option that was actually called "2K10" is all.
    Well, they left it because a ton of gamers hated that Real Time ha been nerfed, while others liked the streamlined gameplay. I guess they could have called it something else, but calling it 2K10 explained exactly what it was to people that had 2K10.

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    • m1ke_nyc
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      • Oct 2009
      • 3243

      #107
      Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

      Tigers-Giants Plus the boot up intro


      Yankees-Angels


      Padres-Mets


      Royals-Indians
      It’s easier to do the right thing, than to explain why you didn’t.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42508

        #108
        Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

        Originally posted by Mt Oread
        I don't find the batter's eye as bad as it has been described. Yes, you get the info earlier than you would normally get it, but it still represents that innate sense a hitter gets of how a pitch is going to show up based on the pitching motion.
        Since we were previously on the topic of Miggy, tell him what his Batter's Eye showed him on this pitch.

        This is why I would be okay with a Guess Pitch feature like The Show, provided there are zero offensive boosts and there isn't an indicator before the ball is thrown.

        If you look at my quick preview of what I would like to see in a game, imagine if you "guess fastball" and a ball comes high and tight. It should show that pitching ball cursor up and in on you, and you should be ducking out of the way. The problem is if that pitch is actually a curveball and breaks over the plate, then you'd look lost. That's what I'd like to see, kind of like how Cabrera guessed slider on this pitch. Maybe if the game told you what the player was looking for/guessing before the pitch (and you could adjust it if you'd like), then it would help out a little bit more as long as nothing is shown until the pitch is thrown.

        Also, another idea I always had is if there was a strike zone created by the player's idea of what he likes to swing at. In other words, a Pablo Sandoval would have a box/shape that's much larger than the strike zone itself. Then it would psych you out into thinking that those pitches might be in the actual strike zone.

        Anyway, I've had 2K10 for the past few years and am pretty much forced to use the Batter's Eye (because it will show up from time to time). I've never liked it. I like Inside Edge stuff though, and I never want 2K to get rid of that (though I'd like for them to increase its dynamic abilities).

        Originally posted by Mt Oread
        Well, they left it because a ton of gamers hated that Real Time ha been nerfed, while others liked the streamlined gameplay. I guess they could have called it something else, but calling it 2K10 explained exactly what it was to people that had 2K10.
        I never questioned their intentions; you're making this bigger than it is. I'm just saying I chuckled at it because it was actually named that. Nothing more.
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        • Mt Oread
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          • Nov 2012
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          #109
          Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

          The point is, the game is differentiating between which players guess well, and which ones don't.

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          • Mt Oread
            Banned
            • Nov 2012
            • 287

            #110
            Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

            Originally posted by Blzer
            I never questioned their intentions; you're making this bigger than it is. I'm just saying I chuckled at it because it was actually named that. Nothing more.
            Actually, I'm not trying to say you were. I was just explaining why they used the odd name. I don't think there is anything good or bad about, not were you inferring there was.

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            • MizzouRah
              All Star
              • Jul 2002
              • 8515

              #111
              Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

              Thanks for the videos.. really appreciate it!

              Game looks much more vibrant to me. Still on the fence, but I'll await impressions on the AI before purchasing.

              I have a ps3 as well as an X360, but MLB 2k has always been a much more engaging game to me than The Show, even though The Show has so much going for it.

              If the AI and franchise mode has been improved, I'll plunk down the money for it.

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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42508

                #112
                Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

                Originally posted by Mt Oread
                The point is, the game is differentiating between which players guess well, and which ones don't.
                I understand the intention of the feature, and I applaud 2K for having something in there. I don't understand why you were telling me I was playing the game wrong or not utilizing what 2K has offers to the best of my ability, though... what was even more confusing was when you said that I'm doing what everybody else is doing. I saw the way I played as completely different than the way every other YouTube video out there is.

                And like I said, I like a hitter's eye, but not the way that 2K or The Show currently does it. I think there's a right and wrong way to do it, and IMO it's being done the wrong way in both games.


                . . .


                Steve, I posted in this thread because I assumed it would be a good "media" thread for people to see. Should I have a new thread for my specific videos, or can I request that mine are also inserted on the front page along with that new Tigers-Giants video that ratedmoney posted?
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                • Mt Oread
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                  • Nov 2012
                  • 287

                  #113
                  Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

                  Originally posted by MizzouRah
                  Thanks for the videos.. really appreciate it!

                  Game looks much more vibrant to me. Still on the fence, but I'll await impressions on the AI before purchasing.

                  I have a ps3 as well as an X360, but MLB 2k has always been a much more engaging game to me than The Show, even though The Show has so much going for it.

                  If the AI and franchise mode has been improved, I'll plunk down the money for it.
                  Yeah, I'd love to see some videos of the last three innings, to see if the AI has been tuned up and improved regarding PH's and pitching changes.

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                  • MizzouRah
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 8515

                    #114
                    Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

                    Originally posted by Mt Oread
                    Yeah, I'd love to see some videos of the last three innings, to see if the AI has been tuned up and improved regarding PH's and pitching changes.
                    +1000000

                    This will make it or break it for me.

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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42508

                      #115
                      Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

                      Originally posted by MizzouRah
                      +1000000

                      This will make it or break it for me.
                      If I can go there again, I'll do a full game or something. I'll make sure my battery is fully charged.
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                      • rudyjuly2
                        Cade Cunningham
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 14813

                        #116
                        Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Since we were previously on the topic of Miggy, tell him what his Batter's Eye showed him on this pitch.
                        Screw you!
                        I prefer the SF vs Detroit video earlier where Miggy blasted one. Too bad the game doesn't have Tim L's short hair.


                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        This is why I would be okay with a Guess Pitch feature like The Show, provided there are zero offensive boosts and there isn't an indicator before the ball is thrown.
                        I love hitter's eye but hate Guess Pitch with a passion for three reasons.

                        1) Ratings have zero effect on guess pitch. A guy like Brandon Inge can guess just as successfully as Miggy. How good a pitcher is has no effect at all either.
                        2) You are 100% right all the time (no ratings involved). With hitter's eye (especially with a reduced slider) a great hitter might have the pitch tipped once or maybe twice an AB. A lousy hitter might never get tipped.
                        3) It ruins relief pitchers. Most relievers are two pitch guys, maybe three. A guy like Fernando Rodney is a fastball and change-up guy and is successful with two pitches. Using guess pitch you just guess fastball and you know 100% of the time what pitch is coming because if you are wrong you get change-up.


                        I understand you not getting tipped before the pitch is thrown and I would welcome an MVP type of system myself as long as it's ratings based and doesn't flash every time.

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                        • MizzouRah
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 8515

                          #117
                          Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          If I can go there again, I'll do a full game or something. I'll make sure my battery is fully charged.
                          Really appreciate all you've done so far.

                          Would like to see you down say, 3-2 in the 7th inning and the CPU has two men on base with the pitcher coming up to bat. In 2k12, the CPU would let the pitcher hit and would sometimes yank him the next inning even AFTER he hit.

                          Your videos look great though and the game definitely shows a new coat of paint.

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                          • tvman
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1392

                            #118
                            Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

                            Hitter's eye = The text you see indicating what pitch is coming, strikezone must be turned on for this to work (at least in 2k12). The frequency that you will see the "text" flash is controlled by the in game slider. Great feature replicating a batter identifying pitch type, only wish it worked with the strikezone turned off.

                            Batter's eye = The black circle that you aim to try and guess pitch location, this can be turned off in the controller section. I hate this feature and turn it off.

                            Batter's eye and hitter's eye are two entirely different things.
                            Last edited by tvman; 03-03-2013, 09:40 PM.

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                            • Zombeels
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 141

                              #119
                              Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

                              This is more lazily developed than ET :/

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                              • Blzer
                                Resident film pundit
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 42508

                                #120
                                Re: Some MLB 2K13 Ratings Revealed, Along with a Few Shaky-Cam Videos and Impressions

                                Originally posted by tvman
                                Batter's eye and hitter's eye are two entirely different things.
                                However it is we're defining/interchanging these terms (for all I know, a hitter's eye could mean a hitter's backdrop and a batter's eye could mean a batter's retina), from my end of things, neither feature is worth enabling unless it's done in a more authentic manner, and if actually done right they would be merged into the same game tool/feature.

                                I'm not saying it's "better" turned off or anything like that, but this kind of began with Mt Oread telling me that I'm not using 2K's game system to the best of its ability. It's not so much that I was disagreeing with what he said, but it was the way he said it like I've never given hitter's eye a chance or truly knew what it was accounting for with the hitters or anything, or like I kept the screen pure for purity's sake.
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