Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

[Love13]

I agree, with how detailed they have made the greens. When reading it at the ball view level, I feel like I'm really reading a green. There's all sorts of subtle breaks going both ways at times. And just like in real life if you get a straight putt I noticed myself trying to find a break that wasn't there because how often do you have a straight putt?? Lol. I had a 15 ft birdie putt that was straight and a little up hill. I didn't believe it was straight so I aimed just at the right edge of the cup, sure enough I hit the speed perfect but the ball sat on the right edge of the cup haha. I loved it because if your a true golfer you know you've done that one before lol.

Also with the putting realism it definitely makes reading the green properly feel more rewarding and close misses especially on long putts more heart breaking. I still like the older distance control but this overall is a better experience.

[Flightwhite24]

Man, I can't break a +1 for anything. Props to the guys that have managed to shoot under par so far. As far as reading the greens go, I'm starting to get a feel for it. I just have to get better at hitting the ball off the tee, I'm sending it all over the place lol.

I feel you on this. It wasn't until I slowed my backswing/follow through down, check the wind speed meaning calm/breezy did I start hitting fairways. I look at everything before I address the ball and swing. Never before did I have to do that in a TW game


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[cccgolfer08]

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Putting without the grid will be difficult. What cues can we get to read the greens?

What I do when putting, if you push the analog stick down to look at your lie, it will show you if the ball if above/below your feet... this helps tell if it will break right or left right off the bat... I also move the arrow throughout the line of the putt and move it right and left and see if it looks like it is moving up or down to gauge where the higher ground is. Hope this helps.

[Love13]

I feel like there's not enough variance unless you are on a gigantic break. The 10-20 footers LOOK like they break left edge only to break 3 feet right.



I agree and love the challenge of it. Just hope to find a more consistent way of reading severity of the break.

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I completely understand why you feel that a 10-20 ft putt might barely break at all but end up breaking 3 ft. The reason I understand is because that's the realism effect. That is how reading a green works. A subtle break on a 20 ft putt will break 3 ft during the roll. Reading putts is extremely hard in real life. It is a fine art that even pros have a hard time with it. There are multiple things that go into reading a green, you can easily misread a green just as a result of the light hitting the grass in a way that makes the green look like its breaking a different way or more than it really is or less. There are other factors as well, wind can effect the break as well. Greens run faster and break harder in the middle of the day, and on some very subtle breaks they will break to the left in the morning and right in the evening. I play a course at home that the greens are on optical illusion. Every green breaks toward the great salt lake, the green at times looks like it is breaking 4 feet left but it ends up breaking 2 ft right.

All in all, the reason the putting is so difficult for most of the users is because in real life it is difficult for most to be able to truly read a green accurately. I stand by my comment earlier that this is an immaculate job by the devs of making the greens so detailed in their subtleties that you can truly read a green without any grids or beads. You may not read them accurately but the fact is what your seeing is accurate it's how you are interpreting what your seeing that may not be accurate.

All in all I love it, because I have always hated using green grids and beads but until now there hasn't been a true enough replica that I could accurately read them without it.

[Gerg04]

Maybe I haven't taken enough time to see such detail or, I may just be terrible at putting lol. Idk its weird, I love it regardless how bad I am. The whole pushing LS down to see slope etc helps, but as far as I understand is only info on that specific spot. I'm sure I'll get better at reading the greens and executing with time. Have played less than 18 holes so far.

Regardless, the challenge and realism is truly exciting and has me itching for this game to drop.

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[Love13]

Maybe I haven't taken enough time to see such detail or, I may just be terrible at putting lol. Idk its weird, I love it regardless how bad I am. The whole pushing LS down to see slope etc helps, but as far as I understand is only info on that specific spot. I'm sure I'll get better at reading the greens and executing with time. Have played less than 18 holes so far.

Regardless, the challenge and realism is truly exciting and has me itching for this game to drop.

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I feel ya. The information given to you on slope when pushing ls down is just at the spot. And that helps with the dreaded 3-5 ft putts. But idk maybe I find reading the green easier than most because that is the strongest part of my golf game in real life. I've never had very much distance in my golf game, so long par 4's are almost impossible for me to hit in 2, long par 3's are extremely hard for me, so I have spent most of life training my short game. I'm a 3.7 handicap golfer and I only hit the ball off the tee about 240-250 if I get all of it. I amiable to keep scores low by a lot of 1 puts and close chips. I've spent years just learning how to read greens, I still struggle at times and misread just like everyone but there is no part of my game that is better. So I notice the subtleties in real greens that most of the people I usually play with don't notice. That may be why I notice the subtleties in the game better, idk. And I'm not trying to tout myself, my best round on this game is +2 through 3 holes because I can rarely hit a descent shot. I just haven't struggled with putting like everyone else has. But I have had my fare share of snowmen so far that would've been worse if I didn't sink the putt lol.

[Love13]

I feel ya. The information given to you on slope when pushing ls down is just at the spot. And that helps with the dreaded 3-5 ft putts. But idk maybe I find reading the green easier than most because that is the strongest part of my golf game in real life. I've never had very much distance in my golf game, so long par 4's are almost impossible for me to hit in 2, long par 3's are extremely hard for me, so I have spent most of life training my short game. I'm a 3.7 handicap golfer and I only hit the ball off the tee about 240-250 if I get all of it. I amiable to keep scores low by a lot of 1 puts and close chips. I've spent years just learning how to read greens, I still struggle at times and misread just like everyone but there is no part of my game that is better. So I notice the subtleties in real greens that most of the people I usually play with don't notice. That may be why I notice the subtleties in the game better, idk. And I'm not trying to tout myself, my best round on this game is +2 through 3 holes because I can rarely hit a descent shot. I just haven't struggled with putting like everyone else has. But I have had my fare share of snowmen so far that would've been worse if I didn't sink the putt lol.

And that distance in my driver 240-250 is in Utah like 6,000 ft above sea level, when I play in Florida or places like that its about 215-230 if I'm getting all of it, just to put into perspective for people that may live at or near sea level.

[Love13]

Does anyone know when the demo is coming out for Xbox "silver" members or whatever it is? Or how long the delay usually is?

I hate this money driven business of Xbox, things like this is exactly why I switched to playstation when the new systems came out. It was the dvd remote required for the first xbox to access the dvd player that was already in the system. I have both now but I primarily use playstation except with this series because of the controller. I bought the 360 for my wife because she likes it better with the kinect games.

Sorry had to go on my rant for the day because I'm frustrated by waiting for the Xbox demo.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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Does anyone know when the demo is coming out for Xbox "silver" members or whatever it is? Or how long the delay usually is?

I hate this money driven business of Xbox, things like this is exactly why I switched to playstation when the new systems came out. It was the dvd remote required for the first xbox to access the dvd player that was already in the system. I have both now but I primarily use playstation except with this series because of the controller. I bought the 360 for my wife because she likes it better with the kinect games.

Sorry had to go on my rant for the day because I'm frustrated by waiting for the Xbox demo.

I don't know if the policy has changed, but it used to be that silver members had to wait a week.

[Love13]

I don't know if the policy has changed, but it used to be that silver members had to wait a week.

Thanks for the info. I guess I'll be updating next week on which one I like better.

[Love13]

I tried switching my controller to right stick swing and it is amazing how much better I can swing with my right finger. Just shot my first even par round in the simulation connected tournament at birkdale. It was extremely gratifying, yet disappointing because I missed 2 birdie putts that were right in the jaws but left a foot short. I could have easily shot -2, but still. That was an extremely satisfying 3 holes. 100% GIR and fairways hit.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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I tried switching my controller to right stick swing and it is amazing how much better I can swing with my right finger. Just shot my first even par round in the simulation connected tournament at birkdale. It was extremely gratifying, yet disappointing because I missed 2 birdie putts that were right in the jaws but left a foot short. I could have easily shot -2, but still. That was an extremely satisfying 3 holes. 100% GIR and fairways hit.

I might have to give that a shot. I was doing alright for a little bit, but now I'm having a heck of a time trying to swing diagonally. My balls going so far out of play it's ridiculous.

[SinisterAlex]

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I switched to the right stick as well. So much easier to execute the diagonal fades and draws with it.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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I might have to give that a shot. I was doing alright for a little bit, but now I'm having a heck of a time trying to swing diagonally. My balls going so far out of play it's ridiculous.

Sounds like you've lost your confidence like Rory. I get in those mini slumps too where I have no confidence in swinging diagonally and try and be safe with it and ends up being worse. And I'm loving every minute of it. The fact that you're moving your joystick to a diagonal bottom point to start your swing rather than starting at centre bottom, which is the natural resting point of your joystick, really can screw things up. It really can mess with your mind sometimes, you can be rolling along and then one bad shot and then you start over thinking things and make it worse.

[Love13]

Sounds like you've lost your confidence like Rory. I get in those mini slumps too where I have no confidence in swinging diagonally and try and be safe with it and ends up being worse. And I'm loving every minute of it. The fact that you're moving your joystick to a diagonal bottom point to start your swing rather than starting at centre bottom, which is the natural resting point of your joystick, really can screw things up. It really can mess with your mind sometimes, you can be rolling along and then one bad shot and then you start over thinking things and make it worse.

That statement right there, reminds you of playing real golf doesn't it? Lol