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  • eskimos44
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    • Jul 2009
    • 280

    #196
    Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

    Originally posted by DivotMaker



    6) You contradict yourself. Reading the greens IS challenging because you have to check the lie of the ball and view the cup and surrounding horizon of the green to get a feel for it. That being said, I would prefer to have a view behind the cup to get a better feel of slope around the cup.
    There is a way to swing the camera when reading the greens. Don't have it memorized, but it is done by moving one of the sticks. I start with the straight on view, then swing the camera for a reverse angle view so I can look from behind the cup up to the ball. Its really handy.
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    • DivotMaker
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 2703

      #197
      Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

      Originally posted by eskimos44
      There is a way to swing the camera when reading the greens. Don't have it memorized, but it is done by moving one of the sticks. I start with the straight on view, then swing the camera for a reverse angle view so I can look from behind the cup up to the ball. Its really handy.
      You could in TW13, but not this demo or at least I haven't figured it out yet. Please confirm if you can and how to do it.
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      • Love13
        Rookie
        • Oct 2012
        • 216

        #198
        Originally posted by DivotMaker
        You could in TW13, but not this demo or at least I haven't figured it out yet. Please confirm if you can and how to do it.
        Agreed. If in fact you can (which you should since while putting you have access to walk the entire green IRL) I would love to know how. This would be a big help in reading the greens on simulation.

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        • eskimos44
          Rookie
          • Jul 2009
          • 280

          #199
          Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

          Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're talking about, but its done using the LS. Pull down or push up, and swivel camera by moving it left or right.
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          • CallCenterZombie
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            • Feb 2006
            • 152

            #200
            Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

            Originally posted by Hurricain
            LOL you obviously didn't read his post.
            Neither did you, apparently. When someone opens up about playing pro/college in real life and then giving reference to Hot Shots Golf: OOB...quick to judgement...and a lot of those points can be changed within the options menu. Please post something that lends to this thread, K?

            And you probably haven't even looked at the options menu of which you can customize to no end. Geez...

            Edit: I don't know if he was talking about Live Tournaments or Quick Tournaments. With Live Tournaments you can't change those options but with Quick Play you can. Maybe you guys should be a bit more specific, eh? :-)
            Last edited by CallCenterZombie; 03-10-2013, 10:12 PM.
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            • DivotMaker
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              • Jul 2002
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              #201
              Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

              Originally posted by eskimos44
              Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're talking about, but its done using the LS. Pull down or push up, and swivel camera by moving it left or right.
              I've tried this in Simulation mode. The only way you can view behind the pin is to have zoom to target enabled and this is disabled in Simulation mode.
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              • acelang123
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                • Nov 2006
                • 56

                #202
                Simulation Mode needs to be deeper and allow for more pre-preparation for your rounds. Almost like a NHL or NASCAR strategy available to you before you start. Removing gameplay options for the sake of making the game harder is not challenging, it's simply unfair. The PGA Tour pros have landing zones and know exactly what the outlay of the courses look like prior to playing in the tournaments. So instead of some sponsorship bs 3 hole challenge and a 6 hole match play challenge against x pro, how about a practice round option where you can plot your strategy for the coming 4 days. if you do it, you get the XP points you would usually get for the two stupid pre-tourney challenges, but the practice round itself would have a variable amount of XP you could gain, based on how much you succeed at your preparation. What would this entail.........I don't make the frickin game and I don't get paid to come up with the finer details, that would be on EA Sports. Now please try to make this like real golf for the next gen.

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                • eskimos44
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                  • Jul 2009
                  • 280

                  #203
                  Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

                  Originally posted by DivotMaker
                  I've tried this in Simulation mode. The only way you can view behind the pin is to have zoom to target enabled and this is disabled in Simulation mode.
                  I see...I don't play Sim mode...I prefer the 6 to midnight swing plane, but turn off most helpers except zoom to aim.
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                  • allstar3970
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                    • Mar 2008
                    • 166

                    #204
                    Originally posted by DivotMaker
                    I disagree. Information is a HUGE issue with videogame golf. You had loads of information in '13 (and still do in TW14 on lower or Custom difficulties) and once users figured out the consistent execution of their shots, you had crazy scoring results at -15, -20, and lower. It took me 4 days at TW Community Day to break PAR in the builds we were playing and the one round I did had something on the line. It was the TW CD Final Tournament to see who would win an autographed (by Tiger) copy of TW13 and a dozen EA Sports Nike Golf balls. I was probably on the lower half of skill among the attendees, but I managed to shoot a 67 at Augusta in Masters-like conditions because I was using a Control/Draw/High Trajectory golfer and I was able to hit fairways and greens and made a few putts along the way. I was lucky enough to win the tournament and beat players that routinely score in the teens under par in TW13 Tournament mode.

                    So, I believe once the game ships, you are going to have to put in some practice time to get competitive at TW14 in Simulation mode. Heck, the best 3 hole round I have scored so far in the demo is -2 and that is because I hit fairways and greens and did not bomb my drives leaving me with longer than normal approaches, but not approaches from the rough. And putting is not a crapshoot completely if you spend a bit of time reading the lie of your ball and the horizon behind the cup once you zoom. I do agree that I wish we could zoom to get a view behind the cup like we can in '13, but even then I was making 30 footers pretty routinely in '13, where I am not making them nearly as often in the '14 demo.....I think you guys will see better results when you can create your own golfer and set him up to play the way you prefer instead of using baked in attributed Pro's....

                    Doesn't change the fact that by not having yardages and ANY info it is immediately not realistic. I think some are blinding themselves to that fact b/c they're interested in high scores, not realism

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                    • DivotMaker
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2703

                      #205
                      Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

                      Originally posted by allstar3970
                      Doesn't change the fact that by not having yardages and ANY info it is immediately not realistic. I think some are blinding themselves to that fact b/c they're interested in high scores, not realism
                      Then don't play Simulation mode.....it is not for everyone and is for the hardcore simulation fans. TW11 TruAim had yardages and users were still able to post very UNrealistic scores very soon after release of the game.....I initially thought yardages were needed, but not after playing quite a bit and realizing you already have access to most of the information, yardages, elevation you need in the game. Sorry you disagree....
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                      • Gerg04
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 2647

                        #206
                        Some people like sim some people hate it. Everyone is weighing in as we should in a FORUM. But for Pete's sake everyone needs to stop acting like their way/opinion is the only way. It's just a game.

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                        • chi_hawks
                          Beat the Heat!
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 301

                          #207
                          Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

                          Originally posted by DivotMaker
                          I've tried this in Simulation mode. The only way you can view behind the pin is to have zoom to target enabled and this is disabled in Simulation mode.
                          Exactly. Each round has a diff pin location. You know the steps to the front, back, left and right for every green, every hole, every round. Obviously when your in a tournament you can't "super zoom" just to check and make sure, but you know everything about the green.

                          Look at any decent player when they walk up to the ball in the fairway. Immediately they are into their notebooks looking at steps from the front to the pin, bunker locations, safety zones, etc...
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                          • NBaldwin
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                            • Sep 2003
                            • 79

                            #208
                            Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

                            if possible, can someone in the know answer a question about the 'quick tournament feature.' Does this mean I'll simply be able to a four round tourney anytime I want? A feature I've been waiting to return since 04 on the PC.

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                            • chi_hawks
                              Beat the Heat!
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 301

                              #209
                              Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

                              Originally posted by CallCenterZombie
                              Neither did you, apparently. When someone opens up about playing pro/college in real life and then giving reference to Hot Shots Golf: OOB...quick to judgement...and a lot of those points can be changed within the options menu. Please post something that lends to this thread, K?

                              And you probably haven't even looked at the options menu of which you can customize to no end. Geez...

                              Edit: I don't know if he was talking about Live Tournaments or Quick Tournaments. With Live Tournaments you can't change those options but with Quick Play you can. Maybe you guys should be a bit more specific, eh? :-)
                              When I changed anything of significance, the difficulty moved from "SIMULATION" to "CUSTOM" and reduced the multiplier number (like Forza 4). So it looks like to play EAs version of "SIMULATION" means you don't toggle those settings. Fair enough.

                              That was the entire point of my post, though - that playing it on the true SIMULATION mode isn't really tournament golf simulation IMO. But I doubt that TW14's main audience is those of us who want a true golf experience. We actually play real golf all spring/summer/fall so its not a huge deal. For the TW14 demo though, I actually prefer to change it back to tour pro but get rid of things like adjust spin after impact. Seems the most natural to me (considering its a video game, nothing is going to be perfect).

                              Would also be nice to play this game without it looking like 430am. I think the final version will look MUCH better.
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                              • DivotMaker
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 2703

                                #210
                                Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

                                Originally posted by NBaldwin
                                if possible, can someone in the know answer a question about the 'quick tournament feature.' Does this mean I'll simply be able to a four round tourney anytime I want? A feature I've been waiting to return since 04 on the PC.
                                My understanding is yes.....
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