Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

[mctrees02]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

If EA put in yardage books that looked like this, heads would spin for many of those playing simulation mode...

[cccgolfer08]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

If EA put in yardage books that looked like this, heads would spin for many of those playing simulation mode...

What about if they just put the holes in there and we are responsible for jotting down our own notes... One of the things I mentioned to one of the devs when I was there for Community Day is the option to jot down notes mid round in your caddy book and have your caddy book be an option when loading up the next hole... Hopefully on next gen consoles there is an option for a touch screen to jot down notes mid round, would be legit.

[Love13]

If EA put in yardage books that looked like this, heads would spin for many of those playing simulation mode...

Where did you get this pic? That is insane, but to the pro that uses this, it makes complete sense. Maybe they give us a picture somewhat like that but just the graphic of the course layout and let us write our own notes. Or what I had in mind is just a picture of the entire hole tee to green, with distances to all hazards, front and back of green and to the 250, 200, 150, and 100 markers. From there we just do the math once we are in the fairway.

Ex: if your "to pin" dist is 474 from the tee and the pin is tucked behind a green side bunker. In your book it says to carry bunker it is 469 from the tee. You hit your drive say 300 even to keep this simple. you are in the fairway now, the "to pin" dist is 174. So that would mean it is 169 to carry the bunker so your probably gonna hit a high soft 8 iron so you can carry the bunker and get it to bite and stop.

Does that make sense? You would still have no zoom to aim with, you'd still have the shot shaping the expert difficulty swing meter, no green grid, but at least you could plan your approaches and tee shots the way the pros do. Idk maybe it's just me, or maybe that would even make the game too easy, I'm not sure. But it's just what I had in mind when I thought of yardage books etc.

[lhslancers]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

Gonna give my thoughts on the "simulation mode" in the TW14 demo. I've played competitive golf my entire life, played D1 college golf and was lucky enough to play in a few pro tournaments (small time stuff, mind you).

1) Not being able to see pin location - this is riduculous. You have this available to you with any tournament you play in.

2) Not knowing wind strength - this is ridiculous. You may not know exact strength but you will have a good idea (light, strong, very strong, gusting, etc...)

3) Not being able to zoom forward nor see yardage book - this is ridiculous. Much like knowing pin locations, you map this stuff out ahead of time. Especially if your Tiger freaking Woods.

4) Pitch/chip mechanics - not a fan at all.

5) Fade or Draw choice - I'm ok with this. Typically you play for one shot as you rarely (if ever) aim right at the target and hit your ball dead straight.

6) No idea on green break - ridiculous. You should be challenged to learn how to read the greens.


IMO, if the TW series could take the mechanics, physics and gameplay from Hot Shots Golf OOB and let you use it with real players, real courses, real tournaments, you'd have yourself an amazing game. HSG is the closest to representing real golf IMO. Yes, cartoonish players, goofy courses, blah blah blah. But in terms of being a game that you slowly master without it being cheap (see the 6 issues above), while relying upon understanding ball physics and terrain mastery, its as good as it gets.

I have always thought that all HSG needed at least on this generation was real players. I like TW but the other game is a lot more fun. Ball physics might be better as well.

[DivotMaker]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

I have always thought that all HSG needed at least on this generation was real players. I like TW but the other game is a lot more fun. Ball physics might be better as well.

No disrespect to your opinion, but I'll agree to disagree ....

[Matt10]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

I think people are getting confused on what hardcore TW fans are versus hardcore GOLF fans.

Simulation is meant to represent the game of golf, no? If so - then the yardage book needs fixing. It's ridiculous that I do not know my front/center/back yardages of the green.

There is no defending of this being omitted. It's as simple as that - no point in arguing.

[lhslancers]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

No disrespect to your opinion, but I'll agree to disagree ....

No problem. Like I said I like the TW series.

[Pete]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

I downloaded the PS3 demo tonight and played a few tourney's on Sim and really enjoyed it. I liked that I had to actually think about my shot, as opposed to just firing away like I was shooting darts.

I also like the fade and draw shot feature. It certainly made it more difficult but I was not doing too badly. I hit a few fairways and it felt good.

Around the greens was the toughest for me. I will have to work on chipping.

Putting felt good and reading the greens was not too difficult. Maybe it was the two courses they let you play but the breaks did not seem to be drastic. For whatever reason, though, the hover and little waggle of the putter before you putt bugs me. Surprised this hasn't been fixed. This is something that I have never seen a golfer do.

I think the demo may have sold me on a purchase. I had '12 and skipped '13 and I can see a huge difference.

[Hurricain]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

I think people are getting confused on what hardcore TW fans are versus hardcore GOLF fans.

Simulation is meant to represent the game of golf, no? If so - then the yardage book needs fixing. It's ridiculous that I do not know my front/center/back yardages of the green.

There is no defending of this being omitted. It's as simple as that - no point in arguing.

This, this, and more this.

I'm using Zoom on the sim mode, makes the game more enjoyable until the next NEW feature ...yardages, lol.

[chi_hawks]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

I think people are getting confused on what hardcore TW fans are versus hardcore GOLF fans.

Simulation is meant to represent the game of golf, no? If so - then the yardage book needs fixing. It's ridiculous that I do not know my front/center/back yardages of the green.

There is no defending of this being omitted. It's as simple as that - no point in arguing.

Matt - you nailed it. As ridiculous as those yardage books and pin sheets can be, they basically provide the same level of detail that the zoom and yardage features of TW14 (on easier difficulties). Especially with Sunday pins and/or when trying to hit a par 5 in two, its a must to know what your yardage is to the front and to carry any front bunkers. Otherwise, yeah its tougher, but its not harder b/c its like real golf. Its harder b/c your playing blind.

[Love13]

Matt - you nailed it. As ridiculous as those yardage books and pin sheets can be, they basically provide the same level of detail that the zoom and yardage features of TW14 (on easier difficulties). Especially with Sunday pins and/or when trying to hit a par 5 in two, its a must to know what your yardage is to the front and to carry any front bunkers. Otherwise, yeah its tougher, but its not harder b/c its like real golf. Its harder b/c your playing blind.

I kind of agree, but saying the zoom is the same thing as a yardage book is a little stretch. If you are using it for the sole purpose of gathering yardage information, then sure it's the same. But the fact is, your not. If you have zoom turned on you are using it to aim as well, at least partially, you may adjust a bit once you zoom out, but you are in fact using it to aim. Which using zoom to aim is a HUGE advantage that frankly no golfer will ever have the ability to do.

Now if you zoomed in and checked for yardages and pin location, then zoomed out and either reset your shot or twirled your aiming stick around 3 times and changed clubs then began your aiming process from the zoomed out view basing your aim on the info you gathered from your on the green zoom view, then you could say zoom is the same as a yardage book. There is still a challenge in lining up a 100-250 yard shot from the fairway view no matter how much info you have. That is real golf, taking information, making a gameplan for the shot, then trying to aim properly and execute your desired shot and hope it lands where you intended. Hence why a yardage book would be a great idea to add to the feel of simulation, and where they fell short when removing the zoom feature. I love the idea of no zoom because it does add realism, but they need something to help us gather the appropriate information so we can use the information and practice to be able to perform like a pro with the same challenge as a pro.

[shootah66]

The sound when striking a putt is way off. Also the sound when striking irons is off also. If this could be rectified befor the release that would be a huge plus. Also the divots that were implemented in tiger 11 are MIA once again. if all these issues could be fixed it would make for a more realistic experience.

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

For those of you who are dissatisfied with the camera options in Tiger '14, a user called "golfboost" started a thread called "More Cameras" in the official forum. I think this would be a good, focused thread that may eventually get more developer attention if they see there's an appreciable, representative demand for a more golfer perspective oriented camera. It's not that the game would have to be redesigned to have it added in, as it's already in the game, as evidenced by the replay video I link in that thread.

They just need to add a menu option to select "Golfer Cam", and let us stay in our virtual golfer's swing view for four or five seconds before switching to a broadcast camera! This is really needed for putting and chipping.

Here's an example of how this is an artificial difficulty element. I just missed an 18 foot putt at Royal Birkdale in the Simulation difficulty Connected Tournament. The "Broadcast" presentation took me out of the swing view at impact, and switched to a tower mounted camera 30 feet above the action and off to the side!? I had no clue as to how my putt broke and didn't have that crucial information that I should have, if the camera had held the swing few until the completion of the putt. As a result, I missed seeing a subtle break in the 5 footer coming back, that I would have seen from my golfer's eyes..... GRRRRRRRR!

The Broadcast presentation is just waaaaay over the top in its perspective destroying hyper-activity! If you feel strongly about there being a "Golfer Cam" oriented option, please weigh in with your opinion at golfboost's thread:

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/9351277.page

[kerosene31]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

Then don't play Simulation mode.....it is not for everyone and is for the hardcore simulation fans. TW11 TruAim had yardages and users were still able to post very UNrealistic scores very soon after release of the game.....I initially thought yardages were needed, but not after playing quite a bit and realizing you already have access to most of the information, yardages, elevation you need in the game. Sorry you disagree....

This has been EA's problem with a lot of games recently. They focus on the "kids" who do crazy things online and not the people who play and enjoy their game the most. People who do everything to top a leaderboard will always exist. They always have in gaming for as long as I can remember.

Online country clubs "fix" a lot of the high scores. Now we can just play with friends and I don't care if some kid with his modded controller can eagle every hole.

In my opinion, they should focus on making games fun and realistic, and not worry about what the "kids" are up to. With online options to play in private leagues, we can get around most of that now.

[DivotMaker]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

This has been EA's problem with a lot of games recently. They focus on the "kids" who do crazy things online and not the people who play and enjoy their game the most. People who do everything to top a leaderboard will always exist. They always have in gaming for as long as I can remember.

Online country clubs "fix" a lot of the high scores. Now we can just play with friends and I don't care if some kid with his modded controller can eagle every hole.

In my opinion, they should focus on making games fun and realistic, and not worry about what the "kids" are up to. With online options to play in private leagues, we can get around most of that now.

I'm not sure what "other games" you are referring to, but everyone at TW community day was 25+ years old with two 50+ year olds (me being one of them). So "the kids" aren't dictating what direction Tiger is going. The folks at this event are all Golf purists and EA listened to all of the feedback in the forums. Sorry you aren't liking the demo...