Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

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Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

JC - have you tried slowing down your backswing yet? This helped me tremendously once I figured that out.

I have shortened it to stay out of the overpower zone, and it helped, but I can't say I've consciously tried this... I'll give it a whirl and report back!

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Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

Okay, I tried slowing my backswing down and my results were mixed. I traced the desired axis better on my backswing, but I tended the push the thumbstick more on the "Y" axis on the foreswing. However, when it worked, it *felt* better than the twitch-twitch motion I've been using on full shots. I think I would get better with this slowed backswing method with time though.

The problem is the presentation options are still leaving me flat. I'm not sure the game play will ever be enough to get me to set my misgivings about the presentation aside. I just played some more Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10, after my experiment with a slowed backswing in Tiger 14, and its presentation camera production absolutely kills Tiger 14's Broadcast camera. I also prefer the more linear feel of the meterless precision putting in Tiger 10. I'd say that Tiger 14's putting is acceptable, but it takes a back seat to Tiger 10, for what I want out of it. It doesn't help that I'm having to watch the putt from a tower camera, 90 feet away from the golfer at impact in Tiger 14 either.

I know I'm a bit eccentric about my camera/presentation fetish, but it is a huge part of the experience for me.

[Matt10]

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I haven't read responses to Divot's post - but I imagine a lot of them are on my side about the yardage markers.

LIke I said, it makes absolutely NO SENSE to omit yardage markers from JUST THE GREEN. Front, Middle and Back.

Simulation = Real Life; you need to know that. Whether you execute or not is dependent on your swing....which for example in terms of Tiger Woods 14 means Simulation mode swing, right? Because it's so difficult now and I have to be precise - wasn't that the whole point?

Again, how anyone can support the decision and argue about it - is beyond me. Seriously. At first, I don't care anymore because it is what it is...but then to come back and not only refute what I said - and then back it up with what I already said I would HAVE to do in my post...I'm speechless.

There is no defending not putting in yardages for the green (notice that's all I'm asking for), end of story. I've been polite, and appreciative of what you guys have provided in detail. I love the potential of TW 14, I will buy it - and I will have a blast. But I will still hold you accountable for simple decision making mistakes - and deep down you know I'm right - just like everyone else who has ever played golf knows is true.

I'm young compared to others probably. But I've obesessed about this game of golf for about 8 years. I have tried every single swing method that is on the internet - all of them. I'm a 10 handicap, and I'd be a 30 if I didn't know the yardages. That's a fact.

Simulation is meant to make it harder - but in what regard:

Hardest difficulty for a video game = par; Hardest difficulty for a golfer = birdie/eagle. Why settle for less? You take care of everyone's needs that way.

[chi_hawks]

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There is no defending not putting in yardages for the green (notice that's all I'm asking for), end of story. I've been polite, and appreciative of what you guys have provided in detail. I love the potential of TW 14, I will buy it - and I will have a blast. But I will still hold you accountable for simple decision making mistakes - and deep down you know I'm right - just like everyone else who has ever played golf knows is true.

Amen.

You cannot claim to be a "good golfer" and then defend the omission of yardages and target points in TW14 and claim it to be "truer" to real golf. Its laughable. It would be like defending not being able to know which club thats currently in your hand (as well as the distance you may hit it). It would absolutely make your scores go up - but it would be an insult to the game of golf.

[DivotMaker]

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Amen.

You cannot claim to be a "good golfer" and then defend the omission of yardages and target points in TW14 and claim it to be "truer" to real golf. Its laughable. It would be like defending not being able to know which club thats currently in your hand (as well as the distance you may hit it). It would absolutely make your scores go up - but it would be an insult to the game of golf.

Do what? I am a 9 handicap at 54 years old, so I tend to think I know a few things about Golf. I am not defending the omission of yardages as much as I am saying it does not bother me nor does it detract from the experience for me. The majority of those who have tried Simulation mode in the EA forums are not complaining about the omission either. I am not saying any of you are wrong for wanting yardages just as much as I am not saying that not having yardages makes it a "truer" simulation of Golf. This is the direction the Dev Team took Simulation mode this year. It is not perfect and neither is any new mode for any game released today. Devs have to take risks and make guesses as to whether certain features will fly with their customers. If their telemetry for TW14 indicates that the majority of Simulation users are playing with yardages on, then they will react to that in TW15 and you will very likely see yardages of some kind as well as an effort to make the game more challenging WITH yardages. I am glad that some of you have said you still plan to get the game, because the more feedback EA can get from Simulation mode users, the better it will be for TW15 and beyond because one thing is for sure, they ARE listening to their customers.

[Flightwhite24]

Friday can't get here fast enough. I played TW 13 more than any game in my life.

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[Pappy Knuckles]

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I really wonder what additions they've made to career mode. The way I'm playing I might not even earn my tour card lol. Finishing an entire round under par would feel like an accomplishment to me.

[Hurricain]

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Do what? I am a 9 handicap at 54 years old, so I tend to think I know a few things about Golf. I am not defending the omission of yardages as much as I am saying it does not bother me nor does it detract from the experience for me. The majority of those who have tried Simulation mode in the EA forums are not complaining about the omission either. I am not saying any of you are wrong for wanting yardages just as much as I am not saying that not having yardages makes it a "truer" simulation of Golf. This is the direction the Dev Team took Simulation mode this year. It is not perfect and neither is any new mode for any game released today. Devs have to take risks and make guesses as to whether certain features will fly with their customers. If their telemetry for TW14 indicates that the majority of Simulation users are playing with yardages on, then they will react to that in TW15 and you will very likely see yardages of some kind as well as an effort to make the game more challenging WITH yardages. I am glad that some of you have said you still plan to get the game, because the more feedback EA can get from Simulation mode users, the better it will be for TW15 and beyond because one thing is for sure, they ARE listening to their customers.

Here is the funny part. NEXT YEAR yardages will be in, it will be the NEW feature to get everyone to buy the game again. It is actually a smart business decision. Sad but imo true.

[Love13]

I really wonder what additions they've made to career mode. The way I'm playing I might not even earn my tour card lol. Finishing an entire round under par would feel like an accomplishment to me.

Agreed. I'm stoked to read about the additions in hands' blog that will hopefully be posted early Monday. And as of now, I'm ecstatic if I can finish 3 holes under par let alone 2, 3, or 4 full rounds to try and become more than an am in career mode lol

[CallCenterZombie]

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Agreed. I'm stoked to read about the additions in hands' blog that will hopefully be posted early Monday. And as of now, I'm ecstatic if I can finish 3 holes under par let alone 2, 3, or 4 full rounds to try and become more than an am in career mode lol

This is the EXACT reason how TW14 has brought me back on board. I don't want to play as the pro's. I want to play as my CAG and Sim mode feels like I'm playing a round through a virtual course. I love the challenge and NO DOUBT there will be some frustration but heh that's just like in real life..

[HANDSWARD_EA]

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My thoughts on the continued discussion of no course yardages with Zoom to Aim off...

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I get it, now move the discussion forward instead of harping on the same thing over and over and over again...

[CallCenterZombie]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

Get em Hands!

[Danimal]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

Everyone and I do mean everyone better take a step back when ti comes to the yardage marker not being present.

I assume most of us play golf so we know that yardage is available in any number of forms on the real course. I also didn't see anyone defending its absences as a true sim experience.

They are trying things to make the game harder for those of us who want it. Because at the end of the day it is a game and thus will never be as difficult as real golf.

Having said my peace now let me say people are still allowed to post if they are upset about yardage issue as long as they keep it respectful.

Carry on.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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I really wonder what additions they've made to career mode. The way I'm playing I might not even earn my tour card lol. Finishing an entire round under par would feel like an accomplishment to me.

If you plan to mainly play career mode and if you are having alot of trouble even breaking par then just make it a little easier for yourself. Use zoom to aim, omit the fading strike meter or don't use grid less greens. That's the beauty of this year's game, the customization to make it as hard as you want and I'm just happy we have this option this year. I don't think I'll be shooting mid 60's on full sim mode so I will make adjustments'e especially with gridless greens which I feel still doesn't give you enough info to properly assess a putt.

While that can't help you online with a CC you join that insists playing full sim mode, it sure won't restrict you offline. And if you still insist you must play the hardest mode then do I what did last year while playing with the Move. Use the easy AI scoring level. Most top AI scores were around even on that level.

With other sports games, I never play against the hardest AI level because it's just too frustrating for me. In the end the advancement of the swing is what makes or breaks the sim level, everything else is just window dressing that you can choose to use at your discretion.

[Matt10]

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I'll be the bigger man and concede. It's just nice to see that yet again I am right about an EA Sports game with a fundamental "questionable" decision. Talk about a beaten horse - wonder why that theme continues though....

With all that being said. This game can't come out soon enough. The good thing about the yardage issue is that there is a workaround -unlike the NCAA 13 DB glitch. Obviously, I can play the level below Simulation - and be good. Or of course, as I've mentioned, I can scout the courses and physically write down yardages myself - who knows, maybe I'll turn into one of the Dev's caddies after all this - of course out of spite I will give them the wrong yardage on occasion