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I have no reason to buy PES until they get more licensed teams. All the teams I want are in Fifa. The only thing PES has over them is the Champions League which they have an alternate version in Fifa.

this is probably the least likely reason I would ever go for one footie game over the other at this point... as many others have said... PES has many option files and edits available. I'm not going to tell you what to do but this should never be a reason not to buy PES imo

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People talk about licenses and engines, but to me the main thing FIFA has going for it is a completely dominant online package. In terms of performance, playability and replay value. PES is gonna have to compete online if they ever want to put a dent in FIFA's crown.

I agree with this... I started out with PES last year but moved on to FIFA just for the simple fact of online gaming. FIFA online is very dominant over PES online.. it's not really close at all. Most footie or sports gamers are going to buy the the better online experience in the end every time. It's unacceptable for Konami not to have better online. They need to copy EA... why not have clubs online in PES even? they need to get a lot better servers or something as well. EA at least tries for 11 v 11 and has been doing it for a couple of years now. Konami is still stuck on trying to get 1 v 1 done right it seems like.

with that said.. the new PES engine sounds great.. and even if it still sucks online I will probably buy the new PES I'm sure because of the gameplay. but in the end for me these days.. the replay value does not last as long for me anymore if the game is only playable offline. I can only play the computer AI so much... and I am to old to sit around and play my buddies offline anymore. boy do I miss the old PES PS2 offline multiplayer days though. It's odd that konami doesn't understand if they had good online mulitplayer.. people would flock back to their footie game fast

I'm sure I will play both again next year