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  • sonnyleesmith
    Rookie
    • Feb 2007
    • 86

    #46
    First off, I love Uniwatch. Secondly, although I don't see why Paul Lukas was added to the stable of fake twitter accts, I presume the increasing popularity of athletic aesthetics and its role in generating revenue for the NFL, is the reason for his presence. Paul is a small cog in the machine.
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    • bucky60
      Banned
      • Jan 2008
      • 3288

      #47
      Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

      Originally posted by CM Hooe
      Who said this feature had anything to do with football gameplay? It's a minor addition to completely separate minor feature in a separate major gameplay mode developed and managed by an entirely different and separate development studio (CCM is developed at EA Austin, football gameplay is developed at EA Tiburon) .

      The extreme backlash to this, and the Twitter feature in general, is dumbfounding to me. It has no bearing as to whether the game gets better on the field.
      What's dumbfounding and baffling to me is that EA Auatin (CCM) decides that adding insignificant and meaningless things like twitter fashion instead of significant CORE NFL features like accurate roster mechanics, including practice squads, waiver wires, contract restructuring, etc. Adding things like twitter fashion takes resources away from adding important features. What's dumbfounding to me is you not understanding why there is all t his backlash.

      Accurate roster mechanics, and so many other things, should have been added long ago. And if resources that go into things like twitter fashion went into significant NFL features, we would have accurate NFL roster mechanics by now.

      I'm actually dumbfounded at your dumbfounding.

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      • treq21
        Banned
        • Mar 2005
        • 419

        #48
        Is this a joke? Please tell me they aren't wasting time on stupid things like this

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        • Flamehead
          Banned
          • Dec 2002
          • 1501

          #49
          Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

          Twitter fashion? Really? Madden is becoming a parody of itself.

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          • Hooe
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 21555

            #50
            Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

            Originally posted by bucky60
            What's dumbfounding and baffling to me is that EA Auatin (CCM) decides that adding insignificant and meaningless things like twitter fashion instead of significant CORE NFL features like accurate roster mechanics, including practice squads, waiver wires, contract restructuring, etc. Adding things like twitter fashion takes resources away from adding important features. What's dumbfounding to me is you not understanding why there is all t his backlash.
            When did a Twitter feed mutually exclusive from any additional roster mechanics? What's preventing EA Austin from doing both?

            Further, how is the Twitter feed, ostensibly a bite-sized news feed with the intention of informing the player of league-goings on and immersing the player into a virtual football world, a "waste of resources" and "meaningless"? Yes, it's obviously EA taking advantage of something popular to further promote their game, but it's a justifiable use of said piece of something popular.

            Accurate roster mechanics, and so many other things, should have been added long ago. And if resources that go into things like twitter fashion went into significant NFL features, we would have accurate NFL roster mechanics by now.
            It's a matter of priorities; the game is going to come out every twelve months regardless what we want, and the development team must prioritize what's important and work on those things they deem important. I would venture to guess that, particularly in the context of building a new mode from the ground up as was the case with Connected Careers mode, keeping the player informed about the goings-on of a digital league and immersed in its universe are pretty important, more important than minor roster features such as waivers (players on waivers revert to free agents after a short length of time) or practice squad (practice squad players never get to play unless they are called up and they can be signed away by other clubs, they might as well be free agents).

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            • Segagendude
              Banned
              • Aug 2008
              • 7940

              #51
              Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

              Should've brought back the radio show instead of this Twitter nonsense.

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              • mestevo
                Gooney Goo Goo
                • Apr 2010
                • 19556

                #52
                Originally posted by Segagendude
                Should've brought back the radio show instead of this Twitter nonsense.
                One of the few things worse than reading something repetitive is listening to something repetitive.

                Also takes quite a bit more resources.

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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #53
                  Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

                  Eh, Tony Bruno show subjective, I didn't like it, his voice was nausuating to me.

                  Twitter is the updated version of radio, not that I'm gung ho on twitter feeds, either.

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                  • ManiacMatt1782
                    Who? Giroux!
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3982

                    #54
                    Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

                    Originally posted by mestevo
                    Why does it have to be one or the other?

                    You realize this news is coming from the blogger, not Tiburon, right?

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                    It's been 10 years and Oline diline interactions are still behind the curve. Resources are being spent on programming this, and not focusing on giving us line play that works correctly and doesnt have false glitches to balance the offense like forcing blockers to willfully disengage once the speed burst button is pressed. Instead of having blockers just go out and find there man, or having a blocker get beat and pushed backward to blow up the play, Instead of just whiffing on a block to indicate failure. It is discouraging to people who want to see the gameplay move forward to see this kind of news. The news may not be directly from tiburon, but this is something they showed off to someone. this is what they deem important to show someone. To me it speaks volumes about where the franchise is headed.
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                    • ManiacMatt1782
                      Who? Giroux!
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3982

                      #55
                      Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

                      Originally posted by CM Hooe
                      When did a Twitter feed mutually exclusive from any additional roster mechanics? What's preventing EA Austin from doing both?

                      Further, how is the Twitter feed, ostensibly a bite-sized news feed with the intention of informing the player of league-goings on and immersing the player into a virtual football world, a "waste of resources" and "meaningless"? Yes, it's obviously EA taking advantage of something popular to further promote their game, but it's a justifiable use of said piece of something popular.



                      It's a matter of priorities; the game is going to come out every twelve months regardless what we want, and the development team must prioritize what's important and work on those things they deem important. I would venture to guess that, particularly in the context of building a new mode from the ground up as was the case with Connected Careers mode, keeping the player informed about the goings-on of a digital league and immersed in its universe are pretty important, more important than minor roster features such as waivers (players on waivers revert to free agents after a short length of time) or practice squad (practice squad players never get to play unless they are called up and they can be signed away by other clubs, they might as well be free agents).
                      I see what you are saying, but I disagree. Using actual twitter to get feedback from fans, and customer base. Good use of resources. Spending more than 10 minutes making fake twitters for your game modes is wasting resources. I understand twitter is popular. And it's devlopers should use it as a tool. But putting Fake twitter in the game is a complete waste of time and energy. You aren't gonna sell an extra thousand copies this year because "they gonna tweet about your uni's" I don't see it. As I said complete waste of time and resources, on something that will have minimal effect on their bottom line.
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                      • juggalotusx
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 730

                        #56
                        They wont make any big improvements with the new consoles coming out. Lets just all admit madden this gen was a huge bust...
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                        • Danimal
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 2199

                          #57
                          Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

                          Whats even funnier than the inclusion of this in the game is the people going off the rails on wasted resources.

                          The twitter feed is already in the game. This is the equivalent of some intern opening up Microsoft word and typing up 20-30 tweets.

                          Hell the deal could include the guy typing them up himself and just some intern entering them in some data tool.

                          The argument on resources being wasted on this might of made sense last year but that ship has long sailed people.

                          That said I still get a good chuckle when I think about why this is even news.
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                          • Big FN Deal
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 5993

                            #58
                            Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

                            Originally posted by Danimal
                            Whats even funnier than the inclusion of this in the game is the people going off the rails on wasted resources.

                            The twitter feed is already in the game. This is the equivalent of some intern opening up Microsoft word and typing up 20-30 tweets.

                            Hell the deal could include the guy typing them up himself and just some intern entering them in some data tool.

                            The argument on resources being wasted on this might of made sense last year but that ship has long sailed people.

                            That said I still get a good chuckle when I think about why this is even news.
                            Although that's a reasonable point in general, nothing I have learned about the way Tiburon implements things into Madden, leads me to think anything is as simple as it reasonably should be, lol.

                            Considering next-gen Madden's history, it's more likely new tweets have to be carefully added in some unheard of time consuming format, to avoid crashing the entire virtual Twitter.

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                            • Hooe
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 21555

                              #59
                              Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

                              Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
                              It's been 10 years and Oline diline interactions are still behind the curve. Resources are being spent on programming this, and not focusing on giving us line play that works correctly and doesnt have false glitches to balance the offense like forcing blockers to willfully disengage once the speed burst button is pressed. Instead of having blockers just go out and find there man, or having a blocker get beat and pushed backward to blow up the play, Instead of just whiffing on a block to indicate failure. It is discouraging to people who want to see the gameplay move forward to see this kind of news. The news may not be directly from tiburon, but this is something they showed off to someone. this is what they deem important to show someone. To me it speaks volumes about where the franchise is headed.
                              Once more with feeling:

                              EA Austin is responsible for the entirety of Connected Careers Mode and does not have anything to do with football gameplay. EA Tiburon in Florida handles football gameplay for both Madden NFL and NCAA Football. There are no resources which could have gone to football gameplay "being wasted" on Twitter feeds or any other portion of Connected Careers mode.

                              Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
                              I see what you are saying, but I disagree. Using actual twitter to get feedback from fans, and customer base. Good use of resources. Spending more than 10 minutes making fake twitters for your game modes is wasting resources. I understand twitter is popular. And it's devlopers should use it as a tool. But putting Fake twitter in the game is a complete waste of time and energy. You aren't gonna sell an extra thousand copies this year because "they gonna tweet about your uni's" I don't see it. As I said complete waste of time and resources, on something that will have minimal effect on their bottom line.
                              You've missed the point. The purpose of the fake Twitter feed is for the delivery of in-game news events to the player and for immersion of the player into a virtual football world outside of a football gameplay context, which is absolutely not a waste of time. It's not there to just be Twitter. Without the feed, the player is completely uninformed as to the goings-on of the league, particularly since there's no transaction log (there should be). Even with a transaction log, the Twitter feed still serves to break news about draft prospects, players having big games, game results, and so on. Its use and utility in the game is readily apparent, even if it is a bit repetitive in is execution.
                              Last edited by Hooe; 03-19-2013, 11:52 PM.

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                              • Hooe
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 21555

                                #60
                                Re: Madden to Feature Uniform Fashion Critic in its Fake Twitter Feed

                                Originally posted by Danimal
                                Whats even funnier than the inclusion of this in the game is the people going off the rails on wasted resources.

                                The twitter feed is already in the game. This is the equivalent of some intern opening up Microsoft word and typing up 20-30 tweets.

                                Hell the deal could include the guy typing them up himself and just some intern entering them in some data tool.

                                The argument on resources being wasted on this might of made sense last year but that ship has long sailed people.

                                That said I still get a good chuckle when I think about why this is even news.
                                Pretty much this. The only thing that may have taken any substantial effort from an engineer is the addition of a few new scripted event triggers from which to fire tweets, if this new alias is to talk about, say, the use of alternate uniforms in a given game or on Thanksgiving Day games or something.

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