Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

[JZ2]

Was at ESPN and noticed they have traits which is very cool on this years draft class. A lot of traits that 2k could use. I thought it was cool and something to post about.

Heres a link to the draft board.

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft

Below is a few players as a example.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...5/nerlens-noel
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...7/ben-mclemore
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...01/gary-harris
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...759/trey-burke

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

Was at ESPN and noticed they have traits which is very cool on this years draft class. A lot of traits that 2k could use. I thought it was cool and something to post about.

Heres a link to the draft board.

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft

Below is a few players as a example.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...5/nerlens-noel
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...7/ben-mclemore
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...01/gary-harris
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...759/trey-burke

Those are kinda nice. Personally, I would prefer that the 2K Sports adjust the ratings accordingly, then use traits to help us identify the player at a glance. IMHO, they should get rid of ALL team/player boosting gimmicks for next year. Player ratings and tendency should be the only thing that separate players.

[cgalligan]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

Those are kinda nice. Personally, I would prefer that the 2K Sports adjust the ratings accordingly, then use traits to help us identify the player at a glance. IMHO, they should get rid of ALL team/player boosting gimmicks for next year. Player ratings and tendency should be the only thing that separate players.

I agree, sorta... I think Players should play to their ratings, however...

A few traits that I do like though, that give "boosts" are the closer / 4th quarter trait... Because lets be real, that does happen in the real NBA... Some guys just flat out take over when the game is on the line... I think it should be given to only a select few players though...

I also like the trait of Floor General... I'm not sure if there should be ratings boosts involved, but, I think there are certain players that "get the most" out of their teammates...

I like the idea behind the 2k player sig skills overall, but I think they just need fine-tuned.

[JasonMartin]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

Agreed but I'm pretty sure that 2K will make a version 2.0 of the sig skills (continuing going the wrong way) instead of taking the sig skills apart and putting it back together in a way that makes sense and make it realistic.


It's going to become less and less sim. I think 2K's goal is: get a HUGE fanbase, make sure every kid buys your game and stay hooked. They know EA sports is coming back sooner or later with the LIVE franchise. That's why they need to make sure everyone buys NBA 2K and not EA. A lot of flash, a lot of shallow things, all about a huge fanbase and $$$$ which EA won't be able to top immediately.

Maybe in a few years, when everything evens out, we'll get a true SIM game again.

[bm011]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

Was at ESPN and noticed they have traits which is very cool on this years draft class. A lot of traits that 2k could use. I thought it was cool and something to post about.

Heres a link to the draft board.

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft

Below is a few players as a example.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...5/nerlens-noel
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...7/ben-mclemore
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...01/gary-harris
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...759/trey-burke

Not bad, but even espn has them pretty wrong. For example they have "Penetrating" on Gary Harris but not Trey Burke. I've watched my fair share of big10 basketball and Trey Burke is the definition of someone who penetrates. Harris on the other hand does not penetrate even close to as well as Burke.

[JZ2]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

I just liked espns idea. I liked the motor and penatrator. Im sure 2k with have a version 2.0 next year.

[mango_prom]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

I agree, sorta... I think Players should play to their ratings, however...

A few traits that I do like though, that give "boosts" are the closer / 4th quarter trait... Because lets be real, that does happen in the real NBA... Some guys just flat out take over when the game is on the line... I think it should be given to only a select few players though...

I also like the trait of Floor General... I'm not sure if there should be ratings boosts involved, but, I think there are certain players that "get the most" out of their teammates...

I like the idea behind the 2k player sig skills overall, but I think they just need fine-tuned.

Like who? Could you name maybe 5 players?

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

I agree, sorta... I think Players should play to their ratings, however...

A few traits that I do like though, that give "boosts" are the closer / 4th quarter trait... Because lets be real, that does happen in the real NBA... Some guys just flat out take over when the game is on the line... I think it should be given to only a select few players though...

I also like the trait of Floor General... I'm not sure if there should be ratings boosts involved, but, I think there are certain players that "get the most" out of their teammates...

I like the idea behind the 2k player sig skills overall, but I think they just need fine-tuned.

B.S. fantasy. Signature skills are a complete joke. Some players are just willing to take more shots and attempt to carry the offensive load in the 4th quarter. however, there's NOT a single player in NBA who gets magically enhanced for the 4th quarter.

Superstar are already highly rated which makes it an already uphill battle defensively. Then it gets worse, because certain signature skills makes me work HARDER on defense or just alright nullify my defensive efforts. If they want to keep signature skills for NBA 2K14, then they need to remove them from online ranked games.

[cgalligan]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

B.S. fantasy. Signature skills are a complete joke. Some players are just willing to take more shots and attempt to carry the offensive load in the 4th quarter. however, there's NOT a single player in NBA who gets magically enhanced for the 4th quarter.

Superstar are already highly rated which makes it an already uphill battle defensively. Then it gets worse, because certain signature skills makes me work HARDER on defense or just alright nullify my defensive efforts. If they want to keep signature skills for NBA 2K14, then they need to remove them from online ranked games.

I see what your saying... But some players do in fact "get better" when the game is on the line, while others simply don't...

If they (2k) are going to have a sig skill, such as "4th quarter" or "clutch" how would you propose they show the effects of that sig skill without improving the players ratings in those situations?

[cgalligan]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

Like who? Could you name maybe 5 players?

5 players that take over a game?

1. Kyrie Iriving
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Damian Lillard
5. Chris Paul

Now... Are those players already good? Of course... But you can't question the fact that those players "step up" big when the games are on the line... I'm not sure of how 2k could show that ability, without giving them a little boost in ratings in those situations.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

I see what your saying... But some players do in fact "get better" when the game is on the line, while others simply don't...

If they (2k) are going to have a sig skill, such as "4th quarter" or "clutch" how would you propose they show the effects of that sig skill without improving the players ratings in those situations?

By basing it more on the situation...

They could make it trigger in the final 2:00 - 3:00 minutes of the 4th quarter, and ONLY if their team is up/down by 5 points. When players "takeover", most times than not, the team is trying to rally from behind.

[cgalligan]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

By basing it more on the situation...

They could make it trigger in the final 2:00 - 3:00 minutes of the 4th quarter, and ONLY if their team is up/down by 5 points. When players "takeover", most times than not, the team is trying to rally from behind.

I totally agree... I don't think the "skill" should be for the whole quarter

[Optik]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

5 players that take over a game?

1. Kyrie Iriving
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Damian Lillard
5. Chris Paul

Now... Are those players already good? Of course... But you can't question the fact that those players "step up" big when the games are on the line... I'm not sure of how 2k could show that ability, without giving them a little boost in ratings in those situations.

Are they really "stepping up" though? These players all have high usage rates, so of course they are likely to take over a game. Plus, they're all perimeter players. All of these players are good at creating their own shot. All of these guys have a good first step. They have high stamina.

You see where I'm going with this? All these players share so many similar traits that there really isn't any need to have a "Closer" signature skill. How many other players in the NBA share the same traits as those 5 players? Not many, if any.

All of these guys already have an advantage over most tired defenses in the league in the last five minutes of the game. Aren't their shared abilities and traits enough to separate the cream from the crop? Why do we need an artificial, arbitrary boost to their ratings in the last five minutes? It's completely preposterous.

How can you rationally argue that Kobe Bryant is a different player at 4:59 in the fourth quarter to what he was just two seconds ago? You can't, because it's an absurd argument, and the existence of the "Closer" skill for that reason is also absurd.

[mango_prom]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

5 players that take over a game?

1. Kyrie Iriving
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Damian Lillard
5. Chris Paul

Now... Are those players already good? Of course... But you can't question the fact that those players "step up" big when the games are on the line... I'm not sure of how 2k could show that ability, without giving them a little boost in ratings in those situations.

4th quarter stats:
1. Irving 44.6 FG% 28.8 3pt%
2. Kobe 46.1 FG% 34.2 3pt%
3. Lebron 52.4 FG% 42.4 3pt%
4. Lillard 43.7 FG% 39.2 3pt%
5. Paul 43.8 FG% 31.4 3pt%

What do you define as "stepping up" if it's clear that, just as to be expected after +35 minutes of world class basketball, even the best players struggle to keep up their usual efficiency? All 2k needs to do is fixing playcalling/touches. Superstars aren't performing better in crunch time, most are straight up average compared to the league. The only difference is that their usage increases with the game on the line.

But the idea that a rating boost is realistic is not much more than being biased due to the excitement of close games and being a fan of certain player leading to remembering a few made shots much more than missed ones.

[Murrcat]

Re: Anybody notice ESPN's traits on thier page? Better than 2ks Sig skills.

Not sure if a ratings boost is needed but maybe something that makes them more likely to take shots? I also agree it should be activated last couple minutes in 5 or so point game