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  • thedream2k13
    MVP
    • Jan 2013
    • 1507

    #46
    Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

    Originally posted by LoSoisNiCEx414
    James White is 69
    Gordon Hayward 68

    Im not even a Jazz fan but come on.
    2k 101= overall doesn't matter
    #SIMNATION

    fighting for truth, justice and SIMULATION gameplay

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    • JazzMan
      SOLDIER, First Class...
      • Feb 2012
      • 13547

      #47
      Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

      Originally posted by thedream2k13
      2k 101= overall doesn't matter
      It's not about overall. Please refer to Streaky's post, he summed it up nicely.
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      • thedream2k13
        MVP
        • Jan 2013
        • 1507

        #48
        Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

        Originally posted by cj2008nw
        Basketball is not a stat based game
        PER< league leaders< ppg<BPG<RPG etc etc = stats
        #SIMNATION

        fighting for truth, justice and SIMULATION gameplay

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        • mango_prom
          Pro
          • Oct 2008
          • 737

          #49
          Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

          Originally posted by cj2008nw
          Basketball is not a stat based game
          Actually, most team sports are. Especially basketball...but that's not the point. Why on earth does an inefficient volume scorer like J.R. Smith deserve a higher consistency rating than Chandler Parsons and John Wall?
          I'm just asking because everyone knows that Smith is streaky as hell. So why should 2k improve his consistency if he's as inconsistent as always?

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          • TroinIggs
            Banned
            • Nov 2010
            • 363

            #50
            Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

            Originally posted by tyklug2013
            Who said we weren't accounting for minutes?

            JR Smith is shooting a career-low of 30+ minutes and increased shot attempts. Therefore, he shouldn't have as high consistency that he has.

            You may not have a problem with Shumpert getting bumped, but has he been a consistent shooter since his return?

            Meanwhile, a guy like Enes Kanter is averaging 7.2 ppg and 4.3 rpg in 15 minutes. His rebounding ratings and midrange shot (which he is also improving) are way too low.

            I'm not even going to comment on Hayward. That's just ridiculous. No excuse for not upgrading him. Refer to Streaky's post.
            Yeah I'd say 43% from 3 is pretty consistent...

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            • giftedchick
              Rookie
              • Nov 2012
              • 402

              #51
              Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

              in defence of jr.: he is second in command on the knicks(even though he comes off the bench) and he filled in nicely when melo was away.. he was asked to go out and be aggressive, and thats what he did

              say what you want about his percentages.. .but he is having a career year in practically every category, and as mentioned before, a really GOOD candidate for 6th man

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              • cj2008nw
                Rookie
                • Nov 2012
                • 225

                #52
                Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

                Originally posted by tyklug2013
                Who said we weren't accounting for minutes?

                JR Smith is shooting a career-low of 30+ minutes and increased shot attempts. Therefore, he shouldn't have as high consistency that he has.

                You may not have a problem with Shumpert getting bumped, but has he been a consistent shooter since his return?

                Meanwhile, a guy like Enes Kanter is averaging 7.2 ppg and 4.3 rpg in 15 minutes. His rebounding ratings and midrange shot (which he is also improving) are way too low.

                I'm not even going to comment on Hayward. That's just ridiculous. No excuse for not upgrading him. Refer to Streaky's post.
                I mean come on now beginning of the season they were considering JR Smith 6th man of the year... then he went into a slump... then Carmelo went out with an Injury and it was just him carrying the Knicks... and recently he has been a LITTLE more consistent...

                Iman was not good when he first came back but recently he's been playing better

                I don't see Kanter getting a boost until he gets significant minutes...

                I agree with Gordon Haywood not being updated that is pretty crazy but the Jazz have been pretty bad this year and before they went on this 5 game winning streak they were playing AWFUL while being healthy...

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                • cj2008nw
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 225

                  #53
                  Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

                  Originally posted by mango_prom
                  Actually, most team sports are. Especially basketball...but that's not the point. Why on earth does an inefficient volume scorer like J.R. Smith deserve a higher consistency rating than Chandler Parsons and John Wall?
                  I'm just asking because everyone knows that Smith is streaky as hell. So why should 2k improve his consistency if he's as inconsistent as always?
                  Stats can't calculate hustle per possession and they can't calculate a players skill and ability it can only record makes or misses but nothing in between.. which is why I don't really like stats too much

                  and can you honestly say that Chandler Parson is better than JR Smith??

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                  • JazzMan
                    SOLDIER, First Class...
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 13547

                    #54
                    Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

                    Originally posted by cj2008nw
                    I mean come on now beginning of the season they were considering JR Smith 6th man of the year... then he went into a slump... then Carmelo went out with an Injury and it was just him carrying the Knicks... and recently he has been a LITTLE more consistent...

                    Iman was not good when he first came back but recently he's been playing better

                    I don't see Kanter getting a boost until he gets significant minutes...

                    I agree with Gordon Haywood not being updated that is pretty crazy but the Jazz have been pretty bad this year and before they went on this 5 game winning streak they were playing AWFUL while being healthy...
                    Regarding the Jazz, how does that come into effect with Hayward getting updated? They upgrade Magic players all the time, and they're terrible. Besides, Utah is a great team for how young they are. How have they been, "pretty bad?"

                    I don't think players should get increases if they are on a short hot streak. If they are playing well for a month or so, then upgrade him. A few games where a guy like JR is killin' it? I don't think so.
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                    • JazzMan
                      SOLDIER, First Class...
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 13547

                      #55
                      Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

                      Originally posted by cj2008nw
                      Stats can't calculate hustle per possession and they can't calculate a players skill and ability it can only record makes or misses but nothing in between.. which is why I don't really like stats too much

                      and can you honestly say that Chandler Parson is better than JR Smith??
                      Yes, I firmly believe Chandler Parsons is a better overall player than JR. JR is a scorer, Parsons is a much more efficient player on both sides of the court.
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                      • ksuttonjr76
                        All Star
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 8662

                        #56
                        Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

                        I was trying to avoid this conversation, but know I feel like that I got to jump in.

                        Originally posted by cj2008nw
                        Basketball is not a stat based game.
                        I'm calling B.S. right now. Basketball IS a stat-based game. Period. There are some intangibles that can't be measured, but most of the NBA 2K ratings can be DIRECTLY linked to a basketball stat.

                        Anytime I read this comment, it's always someone who want to give out ratings based on "reputation" and "overall career" instead of the CURRENT season that the player is playing now.

                        When I examine the New York Knicks roster, Smith, Shumpert, Kidd, Martin, and Camby are more than likely overrated. However, I'll get to that in a moment.

                        Originally posted by thedream2k13
                        2k 101= overall doesn't matter
                        Wrong. Although overall doesn't matter in the big picture in user to user games, it is an EXCELLENT barometer to compare players at the same position. Personally, I find it INSANE that a player averaging 29.0 MPG, 14.2 PPG, 3.1 RPG, and 2.9 APG while shooting 43.3 FG% and 40.8 3PT% is ranked LOWER than someone who's averaging 6.5 MPG, 1.8 PPG, .7 RPG, and .4 APG while shooting 41.6 FG% and 33.3 3PT%. Come on, Son.

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                        • cj2008nw
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 225

                          #57
                          Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

                          Originally posted by tyklug2013
                          Regarding the Jazz, how does that come into effect with Hayward getting updated? They upgrade Magic players all the time, and they're terrible. Besides, Utah is a great team for how young they are. How have they been, "pretty bad?"

                          I don't think players should get increases if they are on a short hot streak. If they are playing well for a month or so, then upgrade him. A few games where a guy like JR is killin' it? I don't think so.
                          JR Smith is having a Career Year I'm sorry I don't know why you don't like him

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                          • cj2008nw
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 225

                            #58
                            Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

                            Originally posted by tyklug2013
                            Yes, I firmly believe Chandler Parsons is a better overall player than JR. JR is a scorer, Parsons is a much more efficient player on both sides of the court.
                            LMAO wow... JR Smith is a much better player than Chandler Parsons... I like Chandler Parsons game a lot but JR Smith is a MUCH better player than Chandler Parson... and if you think Chandler Parsons is better than Jr Smith because of Field goal percentage that's crazy... and Smith has a higher Efficiency rating than Parson LOL... I have yet to see Parson take over a game this year or be the first option offensively or even Second Option for the Rockets this season...

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                            • JazzMan
                              SOLDIER, First Class...
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 13547

                              #59
                              Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

                              Originally posted by cj2008nw
                              JR Smith is having a Career Year I'm sorry I don't know why you don't like him
                              Again, he's having a career year because of increased shot attempts and minutes. Percentage-wise, this is his worst season yet.

                              Sorry that I'm not a Knicks fan.
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                              • stillfeelme
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 2407

                                #60
                                Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-3-13)

                                J.R. and consistency just don't go together lol. The insider needs help as in someone with access to Synergy sports. The rosters show that closed mouths don't get fed and it becomes a popularity contest. There are so many players that are not getting touched but they are far off. I think they need to outsource this to someone at Synergy or NBA.com at least most of the bias will be gone.

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