NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

[Goffs]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

Where is the info for the PC patch...it's almost May! Where's my hope in getting it this month?

[JZ2]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

JZ2, Just because we don't "like" something doesn't mean it can be easily "fixed," but as I mentioned, it's a big focus moving forward.

There is hope.

I understand. I do think the rosters can be easily fixed though. My issues with the rosters are the ratings and players that never get the time of day. When a player like Dwight Howard gets a update every time he has a good game and a player like Gordon Hayward or Jeff Teague doesn't see a update the whole year that's a problem.

I'm not done with NBA 2k13 as I have a Xbox 360 arriving any minute and bought NBA 2k13 for a 3rd time last night. And I am looking forward to trying Rashadi's rosters. I need NBA 2k13 to get me through to NCAA football 14.

[mango_prom]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

We've had some great discussions with the NBA 2K Insider about streamlining this entire process.

Don't want to come off as rude, so please don't take this the wrong way...but what are you even talking about when you say "streamlining"? English is not my first language, even looked the word up...and it simply makes no sense at all. What should be "streamlined"?

The fact that 18 real players are still missing and have not even been added with some generic faces to at least have them in the game at all?
Inaccurate ratings that simply do not recreate the real NBA, but rather
some fantasy league that only exists in the minds of superstar fanboys?

Let's say developing the game under the pressure of an already fixed release date leads to problems, so I could imagine it's impossible to focus on that stuff before the game is released.

But here we are 6 months later, 2k still insisting on the "2k insider" marketing gimmick...what should be "streamlined" exactly, if the guy responsible for ratings apparently thinks that Josh Smith is one of the best midrange players in the world?
If Gordon Hayward and Andre Iguodala had the same draft combine verticals, yet the unknown Utah player gets the same vert rating as some big man stiff?

I mean which league is "he" watching? Because it sure isn't the NBA you can follow on TV...Now a lot of the "I could do better" talk is simply nonsense, at least related to game design, programming and so on.
But if we're strictly talking about getting 2k rosters as realistic as possible, then yeah...I could do better. And I'd love to, so I don't get how you can screw up at this dream job so badly.

If the focus is not the real NBA, I get that and the current strategy has proven to be successful, so I can't argue with anything. But if the idea is really to "simulate" the real league, we don't need streamlining, social media integration, the insider or whatever marketing comes up with, but simply someone who loves basketball and cares about doing his job how it's supposed to.

Again...if realism is not the focus (and it shouldn't, since it's a business), I kinda take back anything, because maybe the "insider" is doing exactly what he's supposed to.

[H8terhatesU]

Also not to mention. Dwight Howard had the most accessory updates of any player.

Headband, no headband, undershirt, ECT.

It's unreal. If you don't play for the Lakers, Heat or Thunder, you don't matter.

C'mon 2k there's 27 more teams in the damn league.

To be fair, the Thunders didn't really get an update until around last year. When they were the Seattle Supersonics and starting out as the Oklahoma City Thunders, they were not updated that often by 2K in their past NBA 2K games with. Kevin Durant was the only one that actually got updates, but even then it wasn't that huge until NBA 2K10.

It is still not fair to smaller market teams, but at least the fans that have been pushing for the Supersonics and the Thunders to get updates all those years finally have their wish granted.

[H8terhatesU]

Disregard the comment above mine. That was my cousin and he was using my computer. I didn't start playing NBA 2K until 2K11, so I can't back up his statement.

[JZ2]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

Time to scrap the 2k insider. Until this happens nobody will take your rosters or them getting fixed seriously.

I'm a Milwaukee Bucks fan. We all know nothing will ever change until Herb Kohl is gone. Same with the 2k insider.

He is the problem. Unless 2k sports says hey 2k insider your on the clock you got 30 minutes of time for the next roster update and that's it. If the 2k insider is given a larger amount of time or even all the time he wants than he is the problem.

If the 2k insiders job is to watch a ton of basketball games and work on rosters 40 hrs a week than case closed.

M

[LD2k]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

Time to scrap the 2k insider. Until this happens nobody will take your rosters or them getting fixed seriously.

I'm a Milwaukee Bucks fan. We all know nothing will ever change until Herb Kohl is gone. Same with the 2k insider.

He is the problem. Unless 2k sports says hey 2k insider your on the clock you got 30 minutes of time for the next roster update and that's it. If the 2k insider is given a larger amount of time or even all the time he wants than he is the problem.

If the 2k insiders job is to watch a ton of basketball games and work on rosters 40 hrs a week than case closed.

M

So he has your vote or...?

[JZ2]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

You need someone that understands video game basketball and how ratings affect the game and can break a game.

2k insider does not understand this. Quick example is how allot of power forwards and Centers have 80+ fg rating and drain jump shots like they are all Kevin Garnett. Theres only a few big man that are money with their jumper. This is why the Clippers wanted to trade for Garnett at the deadline. They wanted to spread the defense out for Paul to have more room to work and Griffin.

But in 2k insider world he had Griffin with a 80+ mid range rating which makes him money almost anywhere on the floor. In 2k insider world the Clippers don't need Garnett.

These are ratings that break the game just one example. You cant have bigs that can shoot lights out from anywhere on the court. You need someone that understands that. Someone of both worlds that knows allot about the NBA and video game basketball.

Can't have game breaking ratings. They can be abused. Give a 50 overall baddie a 90 overall 3pt shot and hes shooting lights out like hes Stephen Curry. Same with a 50 overall player with a 90 block. These players become just as good as top players bc that rating alone can take over a game. Same with when you give 7 footers a 80+ mid range jumper. How do you defend a 7ft player with the same rid range rating as Kobe?

I could honestly write a 20 page essay on video game player ratings and the do's and don'ts.

I don't do my own ratings because 1 person can't do ratings without being biased.

[JZ2]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

So he has your vote or...?

I do not have the info on the 2k insider to make that decision. I don't wish anyone to get fired or lose there job without having all the information.

Its kept so secret after all these years we don't know if the 2k insider is one man doing rosters or a group of people. Could be 2k devs who try to make time once a week to do a roster update. Im sure the devs are so busy working on 2k14 that how could they make time for rosters.

But if the 2k insiders job is to take as much time as he needs and put out the best rosters as possible and that's it than he should be fired "YES".

If rosters is just one responsibility of many he has than 2k needs to change that or get him help.

[iRepIndiana]

The fact that EA can update their madden rosters weekly and 100+ players are updated just doesn't make sense.

EA has ONE guy dedicated to making their rosters accurate.
They have 1000+ more players to keep track of and update.


We have one guy that can't knock out 15 players let alone get the rating and attributes right.

2k insider is a soft topic to discuss about.

[iRepIndiana]

And my last post wasn't meant to start a company argument war.

Ill refer to them as "the other company".

[giftedchick]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

Ignored? No. Could they be improved? Yes.


I can't reiterate this enough, but this has been a huge focus going forward. I am here, reading the feedback. We've had some great discussions with the NBA 2K Insider about streamlining this entire process.

[mango_prom]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

The fact that EA can update their madden rosters weekly and 100+ players are updated just doesn't make sense.

EA has ONE guy dedicated to making their rosters accurate.
They have 1000+ more players to keep track of and update.


We have one guy that can't knock out 15 players let alone get the rating and attributes right.

2k insider is a soft topic to discuss about.

That's exactly the point. The main problems aren't inaccurate wristband colors or wrong shoes and all the other stuff 2k could "streamline" by allowing gamers to complain about them via twitter/facebook/whatever...but the fact that 2k is apparently unable to recognize how the real NBA looks like.

If a player can't shoot in real life, why should he in 2k? But tell that to the insider...imagine a soccer game where, I don't know, Daniel Van Buyten can dribble as well as Arjen Robben. Or what about a football simulation where Randy Moss is a better passer than Joe Flacco? That's exactly what the "insider" is providing right now. So "talking to him" seems pointless to me, what does he even know about basketball?

[JasonMartin]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

I can't reiterate this enough, but this has been a huge focus going forward. I am here, reading the feedback. We've had some great discussions with the NBA 2K Insider about streamlining this entire process.

Are you sure he speaks English because apparently... he isn't getting the message?

[JZ2]

Re: NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-16-13)

Are you sure he speaks English because apparently... he isn't getting the message?

From everything I hear and read the 2k insider is the problem. The guy is just not good at his job. His work is lazy and sloppy.

Rosters are just as important as game play. You say you guys get it but you don't. 1 guy working on rosters is laughable.

A.) You hired the laziest man in the world to do rosters for the only NBA game in the world.

B.) You hired someone who already has a crazy busy job that take up 99% of his time and you expect him to handle your rosters as well and he should of never took the job as he didn't know what he was getting into and someone with common sense should of never hired him.

its time to step up and bring in some people with a passion for the game. Innovative people that will take the rosters to a new level and put in the work.