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  • ninjamonkey
    Pro
    • May 2003
    • 492

    #1

    Wow, Unbelievable Game

    Let me preface this post by saying that this was the 4th game of The Show I've played (EVER), and this is the first baseball video game I've owned since 2003. With that being said, maybe exciting games like this happen all the time and I just don't know it yet, but I was really floored last night, so I wanted to share this story.

    I'm still getting the hang of the game, but this was my first game playing on Veteran difficulty, and it was just an Exhibition with random teams - Dodgers (me) versus Rays.

    Anyway, the game was relatively uneventful - a total pitchers duel. Both teams were struggling to get much in the way of hits, although it FELT like the CPU pitcher was doing much better than I was, simply because they RARELY THROW BALLS. (Time to adjust sliders? Or maybe I need to slow pitch speed down or adjust the camera? I'm finding it hard to judge pitch type and whether it's too-low or too-high, and swinging at most pitches).

    I think it was the 4th inning when the CPU finally scored a run. When I got up to bat, my number 3 hitter got me my first hit, and it was a solo HR to tie the game.

    The game remained tied 1-1 until the 9th inning when the CPU got themselves a homer to go up 2-1 in the top of the 9th. My turn to bat - bottom of the 9th. Lead off double. Next hitter flies out to CF, but I tag up and make it to 3rd safely. Next hitter hits a grounder to SS, but it deflects off the SS, and I score to tie the game. I snag a single so now I've got runners on 1st and 2nd. A wild pitch allows me to advance to 3rd and 2nd, but I strike out, ending the inning. At least I tied it up, right?

    I think we both wound up with only about 4 hits each after 9 innings.

    Anyway, extra innings - no action in 10th. In the 11th inning the CPU is batting and I've got a fresh pitcher and one out with a man on 1st and 3rd. I'm a little nervous, but the CPU hits a grounder in the infield - should be an easy double play, but the throw to first is in the dirt and the first baseman can't catch it. So the inning should have ended, but instead the CPU scores the runner from 3rd. I eventually get the 3rd out, but the CPU is up by a run and it's time for me to bat.

    I get another lead off double. Next hitter is up. I'm trying to get a big lead off at 2nd, but I guess I hit L1 at the wrong time, and I accidentally start stealing 3rd. The pitch is now on the way and I quickly hit triangle to pull off a sacrifice bunt. It worked fine, but kinda funny the whole thing was an accident. So now I've got a guy on 3rd, and I eventually tag up on a sacrifice fly and score the tying run.

    No action in the 12th. Now it's the 13th. CPU gets no runs, and it's my turn to hit. First batter strikes out. Second hitter gets a single to CF. Next hitter gets a grounder that slips to the RF, and it deflects off the RF, which allows my runner on 2nd to advance to 3rd. So it's one out, man on 1st and 3rd, and my pitcher is up to bat. I steal home and lay down a bunt, and the suicide squeeze (which was probably too easy to pull off) worked! I win 4-3 in 13 innings.

    The game was a total nail biter in the extra innings. Throughout the game, every time the CPU scored, I would come back that same inning and tie it up. and Then in extra innings, it was like the players felt more pressure and nerves kicked in. Two bobbles set up situations that resulted directly in runs being scored.

    I hope this all made sense and I was able to convey the excitement well enough. Unrelatedly, does it seem to anyone else that the baserunners run kind of fast? It seems like 50% of the time I hit a grounder to the SS, I'm safe at 1st base. Also, is it too easy to bunt? Maybe it's because I'm on Veteran, but I just press triangle and I'm pretty much guaranteed a successful sacrifice bunt.

    I will say the CPU made at least one questionable decision. They were in the field, had two outs, and I had a man on first. The intentionally walked my next batter to, according to the announcers (get the force out at third) or something along those lines. This seems like a weird decision to me with 2 outs, especially when the next hitter is my number 3 in the lineup - the one who hit that solo HR int he 4th inning, and wound up being 4 for 6. Anyone else seen weird decisions like that?
  • raneman85
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    • Apr 2010
    • 831

    #2
    Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

    You can get a realistic feel and the same type of close games if you kick it up to All-Star and adjust the sliders. The AI is significantly better on All-Star. I play 500 and a little below on All-Star which is exactly what I'm looking for.
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    • Bobhead
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      • Mar 2011
      • 4926

      #3
      Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

      Originally posted by ninjamonkey
      I will say the CPU made at least one questionable decision. They were in the field, had two outs, and I had a man on first. The intentionally walked my next batter to, according to the announcers (get the force out at third) or something along those lines. This seems like a weird decision to me with 2 outs, especially when the next hitter is my number 3 in the lineup - the one who hit that solo HR int he 4th inning, and wound up being 4 for 6. Anyone else seen weird decisions like that?
      I had to really read between the lines, but I gather you were playing at home...

      When you (as in the CPU) are on the road, and someone is already on base, a key to survival is manipulating matchups... that includes intentionally walking guys where necessary. The only run that matters is the first, the game is over instantly. So the most important thing is preventing a hit, even if it means shifting a guy all the way to third base to get to a scrubby hitter (and to open up the force at home, thus taking away most infield hits... obviously you'd only give a runner third with 2 outs).

      I agree squeezes are a little too easy to pull off in this game, though I can't place my finger on why that is.

      I had a walk off bunt hit a few years ago, also in extra innings. It wasn't with the pitcher though.

      I was really scuffling at the plate, and I had a runner at third and Beltran at the plate... 2 outs. But I had already exhausted my best relief pitchers, and my bench was empty. I was also facing a potent team, so I knew that if I didn't win then, I had a good chance of losing the game in the next inning or so.

      I was really really struggling at the plate at this time, and I didn't trust myself to get a hit with anyone... so I just sent the runner to steal home, and drag bunted for a hit, to win the game in extra innings.
      Last edited by Bobhead; 04-18-2013, 09:15 PM.

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      • Bunselpower32
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        • Jul 2012
        • 947

        #4
        Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

        Use TNK's realism sliders, they're pretty awesome.
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        • RangersCruz
          MVP
          • May 2012
          • 3275

          #5
          Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

          Originally posted by Bunselpower32
          Use TNK's realism sliders, they're pretty awesome.
          You rarely ever draw walks with meter

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          • HechticSooner
            Pro
            • Jul 2008
            • 569

            #6
            Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

            If you are looking to have the opp pitchers throw more balls you're either going to have to mess with the strike freq slider on venteran or bump to all star. Vet pitching doesn't throw many balls.
            Originally posted by theengine
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            • ninjamonkey
              Pro
              • May 2003
              • 492

              #7
              Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

              Originally posted by raneman85
              You can get a realistic feel and the same type of close games if you kick it up to All-Star and adjust the sliders. The AI is significantly better on All-Star. I play 500 and a little below on All-Star which is exactly what I'm looking for.
              I never thought of that affecting the AI, but that makes sense. Thanks for the suggestion. I think I will bump up to All-Star next time.

              Originally posted by Bobhead
              I had to really read between the lines, but I gather you were playing at home...

              When you (as in the CPU) are on the road, and someone is already on base, a key to survival is manipulating matchups... that includes intentionally walking guys where necessary. The only run that matters is the first, the game is over instantly. So the most important thing is preventing a hit, even if it means shifting a guy all the way to third base to get to a scrubby hitter (and to open up the force at home, thus taking away most infield hits... obviously you'd only give a runner third with 2 outs).

              I agree squeezes are a little too easy to pull off in this game, though I can't place my finger on why that is.

              I had a walk off bunt hit a few years ago, also in extra innings. It wasn't with the pitcher though.

              I was really scuffling at the plate, and I had a runner at third and Beltran at the plate... 2 outs. But I had already exhausted my best relief pitchers, and my bench was empty. I was also facing a potent team, so I knew that if I didn't win then, I had a good chance of losing the game in the next inning or so.

              I was really really struggling at the plate at this time, and I didn't trust myself to get a hit with anyone... so I just sent the runner to steal home, and drag bunted for a hit, to win the game in extra innings.
              Thanks for the reply. Yes, I was Home, but I should mention that intentional walk was not in extra innings. They put more guys on base, and chose to face a better hitter. That's why it was questionable to me. All with two outs anyway.

              Maybe on All-Star it will be less easy to bunt? It seems like you shouldn't be guaranteed contact.

              Originally posted by Bunselpower32
              Use TNK's realism sliders, they're pretty awesome.
              I will have to try them for sure.

              Originally posted by RangersCruz
              You rarely ever draw walks with meter
              I'm actually using Classic Pitching. I feel less involved to a degree, but I kind of like it. I wonder if the TNK sliders will work ok if I use Classic pitching?

              Originally posted by HechticSooner
              If you are looking to have the opp pitchers throw more balls you're either going to have to mess with the strike freq slider on venteran or bump to all star. Vet pitching doesn't throw many balls.
              That's an interesting point. I'm definitely going to bump up to All-Star next game and see what happens. I played on Veteran again, and lowered CPU Consistency, Strike Frequency, and even Pitch Speed so I could have more time to judge, but they threw an even higher Strike % than before, haha! I think I'm also going to switch the Camera to Catcher Classic 2. It's low, but closer up to the plate so you can (in my estimation) better judge where the ball will cross.

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              • RangersCruz
                MVP
                • May 2012
                • 3275

                #8
                Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

                http://www.operationsports.com/forum...m-sliders.html


                These are the best with classic in my opinion

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                • railsldr
                  Rookie
                  • May 2011
                  • 58

                  #9
                  Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

                  Gotta love how some of these games play out. You're thread inspired me to tell about the game I just had.

                  I sim my franchise and play when I feel like it. Anyway I simmed my way through my current season with the Rockies (2022 or something like that) and made it to game 7 of the World Series, a home game against the Rangers.

                  Game started off as a pitchers duel with no hits till the 4th and continued till the 6th when the Rangers got a couple of hits and scored 1 run. Then the bottom of the 6th with 2 outs I got a single followed by a HR to right to go up 2-1. The Rangers followed with a solo HR in the top of the 7th.

                  We then kept dueling to extra innings. Top of the 10th 2 singles cause me to bring in a new reliever as mine was tired. Fly ball out to right but runner tagged and went to third. Scored on a single so runners on 1st and 2nd w/ 1 out. Then another fly out to right and runner tagged to 3rd. So now runners 1st and 3rd w/ 2 outs.... wild pitch off my catchers glove, run scored so I am now down 4-2 while facing Bryce Harper. Managed to strike him out to end the inning.

                  Bottom 10 a leadoff single for my #8 hitter, I bring a rookie pinch hitting for the pitcher and what happens? 2 run HR barely over the fence in center. Now it's all tied up at 4-4.... single to right by my leadoff guy. Next batter bloops one to right and I'm thinking ok cool 2 singles but THEN the RF misplays the ball allowing my runner to round the bases and beat the throw home to win the game and the world series.

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                  • TonyMoraco
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 206

                    #10
                    Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

                    In my last game, with the Astros, I struck out 23 times and walked 11 times in 14 innings. Carlos Peña struck out 4 times, but I hit a game winning 2 run homerun to win 6-4.

                    That was an unbelievable game for me.
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                    • YanksFan772
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                      • Mar 2013
                      • 37

                      #11
                      Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

                      That's a sick game man. Usually they aren't that exciting. Best game I played was a 16 inning game that got to extra innings after I shelled Mariano Rivera with the Indians for three runs in the 9th. Lost 5-4, but didn't really care about the outcome.
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                      • HechticSooner
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 569

                        #12
                        Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

                        Originally posted by YanksFan772
                        That's a sick game man. Usually they aren't that exciting. Best game I played was a 16 inning game that got to extra innings after I shelled Mariano Rivera with the Indians for three runs in the 9th. Lost 5-4, but didn't really care about the outcome.
                        So true in this game that sometimes you don't care about the outcome when you shell certain dominate pitchers. I had a game where I ran up 6 in two innings against Verlander with 4 of them in the 2nd of a granny. They came back to blow my save in the 9th to win 7-8 but I still felt like I won chasing him in 2!
                        Originally posted by theengine
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                        • lowercasecurtis
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 184

                          #13
                          Re: Wow, Unbelievable Game

                          You're all inspiring me to share!

                          In 2014 with the Phillies (ended 2013 82-80 and missed the playoffs)

                          First game of May that I'm playing (I sim every 5) against the Marlins in PHI.

                          I took an early lead 4-0 through 5 but Halladay began to struggle and let a lead off triple which led to the Marlins scoring 3 on back to back HRs. So I turned to my bullpen and held the game 4-3 until the 8th. Bottom 8 and I hit a solo HR to make it 5-3 going into the 9th.

                          I bring in Papelbon to close it out, strike out the first 2. Next batter gets on with a single and I'm pitching for a ground ball. 0-2 count and I get my ground ball right at Utley to roll the DP. However, he overthrows the flip to Rollins covering the ball rolls to the OF and the runner moves to 3rd.

                          Still 2 Outs in a 5-3 game. Next batter hit's a single, runner comes in from 3rd, and puts runners again on 1st and 3rd with 2 outs. 5-4 game. Next batter hits a blooper into the OF and another run making it 5-5. At this point I am beyond furious that Utley turned the would be DP to end the game into a tie ball game. I luckily get a fly out to end the inning.

                          To add to my frustration I had 2 monster hits in earlier innings that might have given me a few more runs but 1 hit the very tip of the fence at dead center ( i had to watch the replay like 6 times I was dumbfounded that the ball missed by so little) and came back into the field and I had another hit the very top of the RF wall (which was a few feet short but still frustrating).

                          I leave Papelbon in for the 10th and he clears the side 1, 2, 3 with my 4,5,6 guys up to bat. Howard hits a lead off double. I hit a ground ball to push him to 3rd and I am beyond ecstatic that all I need is a sac-fly to win the game. Well my 7 guy comes up who had hit a solo HR earlier in the game and crushes a first pitch slider that hangs. 408 to dead center for a walk-off HR to win 7-5.

                          I loved watching my team stand at home plate waiting for him to come home. First time I've had that cut scene. Greatest single game I've played in the Show since I started playing in 2010.

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