Are players being over payed???

[kingkilla56]

Re: Are players being over payed???

Thanks to the new CBA, the more the league makes a year the more the players make.

Does the cap get raised? Or?

[goh]

Re: Are players being over payed???

Depends how you look at it.
In context of police/fire/military/etc. folk that risk their lives/save others lives every day and still being flat broke...yes.

In context of the team/league makes a ton of money and the players should get an appropriate portion of that...no.

In context of -oh hey this player is underperforming and we paid him too much- as in the first post here,technically I suppose but its the fault of the GM and owner,not the player. For example with Romo and Flacco I believe it's a case of "we're paying these guys because there isn't a better option" because there isn't exactly a big FA QB out there they can bid on. Also in the case of Flacco if he does underperform that's also partially on the GM/owner for losing a lot of players. If the team goes 4-12 he's gonna be the one the blame drops on.

[jmood88]

Re: Are players being over payed???

I don't know what people think would happen if there was some kind of cap on how much an individual player was paid. That money wouldn't go to charity or to increase teacher salaries, it would go to making the owners richer than they already are.

[gopher_guy]

Re: Are players being over payed???

I hate when people say athletes are overpaid.

They chose to pursue a profession where millions of people pay to watch them work, and they succeeded at it. Good for them.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

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I don't know what people think would happen if there was some kind of cap on how much an individual player was paid. That money wouldn't go to charity or to increase teacher salaries, it would go to making the owners richer than they already are.

I have no sympathy for the owners either. They both make too much. I have no sympathy for capitalists (note capitalist in this context is what a teacher is to teaching, a tailor is to tailoring, a fisherman is to fishing. It is an occupation and not to be confused with the context of capitalism vs socialism etc. I want to make that clear as otherwise that sentence takes on a completely different meaning) who overindulge in the idea of mass acquisition of wealth for private squandering. Not saying they don't have a right to it, I just choose not to agree.

[bgeno]

Are teams paying too much for unproven players? Sure, but if that team didn't sign him, another would give him almost as much.

In general, are they being overpayed? No. As long as the fans are watching on TV (driving up ad sales) and buying merchandise, the teams are going to have that kind of money to spend. It's the way the economy works... Almost like supply and demand. The demand for quality NFL games and teams is so high (as evidenced by TV ratings, ticket prices and merch sales) so the "supply" (the players) can ask for more money.


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[phenom1990]

Re: Are players being over payed???

Thanks to the new CBA, the more the league makes a year the more the players make.

I'm pretty sure that's how its always been. The players always got X % of league revenue. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think the owners reduced that % in the last CBA claiming they weren't making as much money. The significant thing they did was change the rookie pay scale and free up more money for veterans.

[mestevo]

I'm pretty sure that's how its always been. The players always got X % of league revenue. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think the owners reduced that % in the last CBA claiming they weren't making as much money. The significant thing they did was change the rookie pay scale and free up more money for veterans.

It was never all revenue like it is as of the new CBA.

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[jth1331]

Re: Are players being over payed???

I hate when people say athletes are overpaid.

They chose to pursue a profession where millions of people pay to watch them work, and they succeeded at it. Good for them.

I don't think necessarily in those terms, but as teams overpaying certain individuals compared to others at the same position. Like Joe Flacco getting paid the highest paid QB.

[mestevo]

Re: Are players being over payed???

I don't think necessarily in those terms, but as teams overpaying certain individuals compared to others at the same position. Like Joe Flacco getting paid the highest paid QB.

Those kind of comparisons typically have to suspend a number of facts to hold up though and are only true in a specific context. Large contracts don't go from start to finish without being touched again, and much, much more often than not result in a release or restructure within a couple of/few years.

Salaries are just a matter of the combination of leverage, need and talent in a particular moment.

[jth1331]

Re: Are players being over payed???

Those kind of comparisons typically have to suspend a number of facts to hold up though and are only true in a specific context. Large contracts don't go from start to finish without being touched again, and much, much more often than not result in a release or restructure within a couple of/few years.

Salaries are just a matter of the combination of leverage, need and talent in a particular moment.

Also, its one reason I think the NFL prospers so well. Players restructure, get new deals rather easily, and in the end, yeah you might have a couple players being overpaid, but most of the players are paid adequately. All the contracts aren't guaranteed, which is huge. Yeah, might sign a guy to a huge contract and it being a bust, but after 2 years your free of the decision.
Look at the other sports, you sign the wrong guy to a huge deal, you're screwed for the life of the contract. Completely guaranteed, no restructuring of deals. I'm amazed the leagues haven't looked at maybe approaching this idea, but then I remember pretty much everybody is greedy.

[PuppyMaster]

Re: Are players being over payed???

When you take into account the exclusivity of the profession as well as the income players bring in, no, they are not over paid.

Let's take a look at the numbers. Each team has a roster size of 53 with a handful of practice squad players. We're looking at roughly 1,700 active NFL players at any given time. I think it'd be a conservative estimate to say at least half of those players are "fringe" talents at best, hanging on by a thread every training camp or players able to put together a couple average seasons before fading into obscurity. We now have a talent pool of about 850 players that could, potentially, have somewhat successful careers in the NFL, barring catastrophic injury. By "successful" I mean a player making an opening day roster and being able to put in 5-8 years of service. I don't think it'd be unfair to assume roughly half of those players would fall into the "good" category and may even get a Pro Bowl or two depending on luck and outside circumstances. These are the guys in the NFL with salaries in the low seven figures. The players making more than that take up only a handful of NFL roster spots. In fact, there's usually only about ten players or so on a given roster making five-plus million a year in base salary and only a couple per team making over ten million. These ten million per year players are among the NFL "elite" (at least in terms of perceived importance or potential).

So we've whittled down the 1,700 NFL-quality athletes in the world down to a mere 80-100 players actually raking in the ridiculous amounts of money that leaves us common folk shaking our heads. With that in mind let's remember only a handful of teams have the nationwide popularity to transcend their win/loss record and remain an economically viable entity while losing year in and year out. There's a reason why the Bills have had to play "home" games in Toronto and why there have been rumors swirling around the Rams and Jaguars about possible relocation in recent years.

Let's ask ourselves a question. Do a Google search and find a fairly recent list of your favorite team's base salary contracts. Take away the top five money makers and how good would your team really be? On most teams I bet those players could easily mean the difference between a top ten draft pick and a possible deep run into the playoffs.

In short, pay the men. It's not like you can easily replace a top 100 player in the NFL with any sort of regularity.

[MooseBoyJ]

Re: Are players being over payed???

To be brief... They are payed millions to play a childs game. All in your perspective I suppose. I mean the Titanic's wreck was great for the lobsters about to be cooked.

[dsallupinyaarea]

Re: Are players being over payed???

I always find it interesting when people call basketball, football, baseball, etc. a childs game. When's the last time a non-parent went and watched a middle school football game? Personally, I only watch the pros so it's far from a childs game to me.

[MooseBoyJ]

Re: Are players being over payed???

I always find it interesting when people call basketball, football, baseball, etc. a childs game. When's the last time a non-parent went and watched a middle school football game? Personally, I only watch the pros so it's far from a childs game to me.

On the other side of the coin you have this very valid point. If you are running a multibillion dollar business, as major sports are, wouldn't you do anything to keep your workers, athletes, happy and want to work/ play for you? So no your not overpaying them. Your making news and creating more revenue for your billion dollar company. Think about it. When Romo signed his new, overpayed IMO, contract 2 things happened. Media generated people's interest and Jersey sales jumped up. Like I said. All in your point of view. Flooding is great at making fertile farmland.