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  • MizzouBravesFan
    MVP
    • Mar 2004
    • 2489

    #16
    Re: More Details on the NHL 14 Enforcer Engine

    So now that everyone is "live" are we going to see huge brawls with multiple fights?

    Also it'd be nice if they made fighting mean something and used it in Franchise...like starting rivalries and upping old ones, teams remembering fights/hits/cheapshots etc. from earlier games in the season, etc.
    Patrick Mahomes > God

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    • Money99
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2002
      • 12695

      #17
      Re: More Details on the NHL 14 Enforcer Engine

      Originally posted by leafnut24
      Is it just me, or is anyone afraid that EA is going to over do the fight celebrations thing. Pretty rarely do you ever see a fighter celebrate like the trailer showed after winning a fight, unless you're Brian McGratten.
      I don't think you have anything to worry about.
      When has the EA NHL series ever implemented anything that was over-the-top or cheesy?

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      • jake19ny
        MVP
        • Mar 2011
        • 1938

        #18
        Re: More Details on the NHL 14 Enforcer Engine

        I for one am glad they changed this. I could not stand the old fight engine. Its just me but I have one or two fights every game. If a goon type guy lays out one of my forwards I always go after him that shift or later when I have a goon on the ice. 2 goons happen to be lined up at the face off I usually start a fight. I actually am one of the few who enjoyed NHL 13. I tweaked it just enough to have fun with it. I came to terms a long time ago that we will never get everything we want. Hockey is a sport that requires split second reactions and you just cannot build an AI to have human reaction....not yet anyway. all that being said I hope this is not the only thing they improved upon. Im sure they can improve the defense AI a bit in fact as someone previously posted it was not bad out of the box and then ruined with a patch. I would like to see more board work and corner scrums for pucks. I hope for presentation changes and just my own personal pet peeve.....give some new goalie masks or a mask editor...some are down right hideous.
        Heres to hoping we see some of things we want

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        • GlennN
          MVP
          • Oct 2003
          • 1929

          #19
          Re: More Details on the NHL 14 Enforcer Engine

          Originally posted by MizzouBravesFan
          So now that everyone is "live" are we going to see huge brawls with multiple fights?

          Also it'd be nice if they made fighting mean something and used it in Franchise...like starting rivalries and upping old ones, teams remembering fights/hits/cheapshots etc. from earlier games in the season, etc.
          I would love this, but I cannot imagine the NHL allowing it in a licensed product. The NHL tolerates fighting, but I have never seen them even tolerate, let alone promote, brawls at all.

          I love your idea! That would really add to the immersion into your franchise universe!

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          • JezFranco
            Pro
            • Jan 2010
            • 725

            #20
            Re: More Details on the NHL 14 Enforcer Engine

            Originally posted by jake19ny
            I for one am glad they changed this. I could not stand the old fight engine. Its just me but I have one or two fights every game. If a goon type guy lays out one of my forwards I always go after him that shift or later when I have a goon on the ice. 2 goons happen to be lined up at the face off I usually start a fight.
            You're not alone.
            Especially when me and the guys were playing some co-op, and after a few there's a big chance gloves will drop.
            Payback scrums, or tactical fights are standard at late hours.

            Thank you EA - This game is officially better than sex

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            • NHLandPESFan
              Rookie
              • Dec 2008
              • 229

              #21
              Re: More Details on the NHL 14 Enforcer Engine

              Originally posted by bwiggy33
              Completely understand where you're coming from, however I still hate the move. This game just has too many other gameplay related issues that should be fixed before introducing a new fighting system. Fights take 30 seconds or so of a 60 minute hockey game. To focus on that when other issues are prevalent, is the worst possible thing that could happen for people looking for a better hockey experience.
              Exactly! I would really like to see things like variable season length in franchise mode, better passing and no more cheating goalies instead they are doing crap like this.

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              • onac22
                Rookie
                • Jul 2012
                • 246

                #22
                Re: More Details on the NHL 14 Enforcer Engine

                I'm still not sure what to think of this. So just to state what I interpreted.

                At one point EA claims the computer will respond to a big hit on a star player by sending the enforcer across the ice dropping his equipment in a Tasmanian devil type tirade. I'm sure the Dev's are balancing this out but does that mean if I hit Kessel hard with Crosby, instead of the game doing nothing like this year, the game will now overcompensate and jump Crosby with Mclaren for throwing a hit.

                A little sceptical about the whole thing. EA has not shown the ability to balance the frequency or use of these events for the AI. Does all of this suggest this year the Cpu will start jumping non fighters with goons? Like it doesn't happen enough on EASHL now the CPU gets to bully too.

                Just sounds like it could have the potential to blow up in EA's face. Along with the one touch dekeing, I am very interested to see how all of this implements together.

                On one hand it could turn into a great enforcer engine where standing up for your players is rewarded. EA's track history lately seems to point to the latter the game will fight at inapropriate times.

                P.S. I love that Littman admitted the hitting was broken in 13. However doubt they really did anything about it.
                Last edited by onac22; 04-24-2013, 12:27 PM.

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                • Ninjoid
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2101

                  #23
                  Re: More Details on the NHL 14 Enforcer Engine

                  The cpu needs to instigate fights for this to work....the lack of fights in cpu v cpu mode totally detracted from the game if you played it in that instance.

                  This has been a big issue over the last few iterations of the game....the cpu would start a fight and also fight itself on the old PS1 games but since the jump to PS3 this has been missing.

                  Hopefully this new engine, where all the players are live will work out for us cpu v cpu fans.
                  Dedicated member of the CPU v CPU worldwide brethren.

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                  • bad_philanthropy
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 12167

                    #24
                    Re: More Details on the NHL 14 Enforcer Engine

                    They already had black eyes and scars in the game. In fact they would last several games sometimes after getting in a fight.

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                    • Storm12
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 428

                      #25
                      I've been playing NHL 04 and it seems they are going to just take the enforcer/fighting engine back to that... Really? You could have kept it all this time and nobody would have complained about it. If this games AI was decent and they didn't change the fight system I would just want an indicator of when play was getting too rough, and more scrums after big hits, I was at an Admirals game and some big hits happened, they're are scrums but no fights all the time.
                      What?

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                      • dc112sgt
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1

                        #26
                        If you Do not like this then you are Clearly not a true hockey fan i am reading all the idiots that have said "I'm Skeptical" like seriously you people are not hockey fans you are just fing nerds >.> Fighting is everything in hockey if there was not Fighting then Idiocy would happen and also a lot of fans would stop watching and i mean A LOT also many teams would lose their Edge in the NHL ......

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