Madden NFL 25 Trailer - Run Free

[Ice_Cold345]

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One thing I never quite got about EA is how much people want to play SIM sports. There is a reason more people probably play NR2003/iRacing than the newer NASCAR games, because it feels like you are really racing the cars.

Anyway back to the point, why can't they do a thing similar to 2k where there is arcade style and simulation style. Just because the NFL is a more pass happy/offensive league, doesn't mean defense should just be left to just sit there when there is so much they need to change, like defensive line men feeling /playing different where you have a guy like JPP speed rushing the edge, compared to say a Dwight Freeney, where he beats with a spin move and not just with his speed. So much needs to be fixed on defense and in the trenches that I don't think running should be the top priority, but whatever, not like EA listens to people who play the game the most.

[kjcheezhead]

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EA definitely tried to redo a Nike commercial with this trailer. SMH.

Done by paid professionals and it turned out like this. Meanwhile I've seen guys on this site use a certain basketball game to recreate commercials to perfection. That is sad.

On the plus side, with the exclusive license still set to expire and EA laying off 10% of its work force, I know for certain I won't be tempted to purchase this game even for a moment.

[Big FN Deal]

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Agree and understand! I was under the impression heat seeking tackling would take over your player for you... Where does it state that it won't?

I'm relieved by that assurance and understand the direction, but am tired of this dealing with symptoms when issues would disappear with a more holistic approach.

I posted the link to the TSO QnA in post #125, you have to read through a bit but it's only like 4 pages at this point. The EAGC addresses this in two separate responses, I started to piece it together in this post, then thought of the irony of giving you an info assist, when you can just go read it for yourself, lol.

[Only1LT]

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That video was just... yeah.

I read about the features for NCAA and Madden and what they are trying to do with adding foot planting and slowing down to cut and making the running more realistic, but if you are going to use the same animation system and just add a foot plant here and there, and think that your job is done, then I guess everything I've ever thought or said about this team has been validated.

I don't see much hope for this franchise. I see a lot of good intentions, but too often those good intentions are manifested in trying to repair a sinking ship with duct tape.

For those that commented that they are waiting to see what next gen brings, I think it's time to stop deluding yourselves. You know what next gen will bring. If you are being honest that is. This is the best that they can do. It always was.

Search your feelings Luke. You know it to be true.

[Big FN Deal]

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Done by paid professionals and it turned out like this. Meanwhile I've seen guys on this site use a certain basketball game to recreate commercials to perfection. That is sad.

On the plus side, with the exclusive license still set to expire and EA laying off 10% of its work force, I know for certain I won't be tempted to purchase this game even for a moment.

, don't jinx it.

[cthurt]

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At this point i wanna believe and be excited about the things that ive read in these articles but that horrible video has me thinking the worse for this game at this point, words can only go so far but ill wait for actual game footage to make my decision on this years Madden.

[Big FN Deal]

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That video was just... yeah.

I read about the features for NCAA and Madden and what they are trying to do with adding foot planting and slowing down to cut and making the running more realistic, but if you are going to use the same animation system and just add a foot plant here and there, and think that your job is done, then I guess everything I've ever thought or said about this team has been validated.

I don't see much hope for this franchise. I see a lot of good intentions, but too often those good intentions are manifested in trying to repair a sinking ship with duct tape.

For those that commented that they are waiting to see what next gen brings, I think it's time to stop deluding yourselves. You know what next gen will bring. If you are being honest that is. This is the best that they can do. It always was.

Search your feelings Luke. You know it to be true.

NO, there is good left in this team, I know there is, lol. Seriously though, I challenge this, no way M25 will move like this on a completely new engine, seemingly Frostbite, with Kolbe heading it up. I have no idea how "gimmicky" the game may be if still effected by the same powers that be for XP progression and fun/realism balance but I would put money on the players will actually move like real people on the new consoles.

Perhaps we could place some kind of sig wager, where the loser has to place some predetermined statement in their sig for a set period of time. Something like "If [insert winner] states it, I believe it and that does it, always bet on [inset winner]", lol.

[Only1LT]

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NO, there is good left in this team, I know there is, lol. Seriously though, I challenge this, no way M25 will move like this on a completely new engine, seemingly Frostbite, with Kolbe heading it up. I have no idea how "gimmicky" the game may be if still effected by the same powers that be for XP progression and fun/realism balance but I would put money on the players will actually move like real people on the new consoles.

Perhaps we could place some kind of sig wager, where the loser has to place some predetermined statement in their sig for a set period of time. Something like "If [insert winner] states it, I believe it and that does it, always bet on [inset winner]", lol.

Now what in the wild wild west makes you think that next gen Madden will run on Frostbite lol??????

This is Tiburon we are talking about. The original walled garden. Better animation and physics tech has always existed, even within EA, and yet it was never leveraged. There is not a single game that I can think of that is developed or produced by any other team or publisher that has worse animations than Madden, and yet here we sit, more than a decade later, and they are still soldiering on, much like Sinatra, content to do it their way.

I'm sorry. I don't see it happening. Next gen Madden will be redesigned most likely, but it will be redesigned, by and large, through what ever tech collaborations that Tiburon and EA Canada come up with. Will it look better? Damned if I know. Many think that due to the sheer power of the new consoles that next gen Madden will be better by osmosis. I wouldn't bet on that. As gimped as the PS3 and 360 look by today's standards of technological evolution, there are still games for both systems that animate EXPONENTIALLY better than Madden, using the same hardware. The aforementioned Battlefield comes to mind. Uncharted, The Last of Us, and Tomb Raider, animate absolutely gorgeously as well, so I wouldn't look to the PS4 and... NextBox to be the boon to Madden that many think it will be. Powerful system is one thing. Knowing how to harness that power...

All I can think of after seeing that ridiculous RG3 animation at the end of the trailer is R Kelly. "Move your body like snake Ma. Like that?" Pitiful.

You might as well change your sig now.

[Segagendude]

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Why does everyone on this site bash the EA and this Madden game soo much?

You're new here, aren't you? Lol

[cgalligan]

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Are we playing NFL Street? Or is this a game that is trying to replicate and simulate "NFL FOOTBALL" ???

My favorite part of the video, is the part when Calvin Johnson leaps over a defender and then, immediately after, he somehow still has the momentum, strength and speed to totally TRUCK another defender...

I'm fine with him leaping a guy, but, there is no way he'd have enough momentum left to be able to truck a defender coming in for a clean shot at him... Even if it is Calvin Johnson, that seems a bit ridiculous and very "Madden" of them...

[Eman5805]

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Look at how much smoother that gameplay is!! That is really something... I loved Madden on PS2. I just wish EA would come out and tell us what the he** went wrong with the gameplay and animation engine this generation. (Along with many other aspects)

That should be EA's goal next go around. Make it more like the PS2/Xbox generation. Players looked like they had weight to their running.

[Only1LT]

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That should be EA's goal next go around. Make it more like the PS2/Xbox generation. Players looked like they had weight to their running.

Please, no. Just no...

[roadman]

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LT:

Welcome back to your annual pilgrimage.lol

I take it you didn't like precision passing last year?

Actually, didn't appreciate 13 much and didn't like the trailers put out so far, but I'm cautiously optimistic with the articles I've read so far.

We'll see.

[Big FN Deal]

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Now what in the wild wild west makes you think that next gen Madden will run on Frostbite lol??????....


....You might as well change your sig now.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...nch-title.html

As well change your sig now you might.[In Yoda voice]

[Only1LT]

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LT:

Welcome back to your annual pilgrimage.lol

I take it you didn't like precision passing last year?

Actually, didn't appreciate 13 much and didn't like the trailers put out so far, but I'm cautiously optimistic with the articles I've read so far.

We'll see.

What's up Road.

Yeah nothing gets my Tiburon ire up more than draft time and the inevitable explosion of Madden info lol.

Did I like Precision Passing? I didn't dislike it. I liked the intent. It isn't what I thought Madden needed to really improve, but I could say that for any addition that's been made over the last decade or so. The main problem I had was that for all the new trajectories and for all the added precision, the AI was still the ultimate judge of the outcome of a play, and no matter what I did with the sticks or the button presses, balls would still be defended or intercepted by defenders trailing receivers, due to balls, some freaking how, not being thrown to lead receivers enough. Essentially, the AI still made happen what ever it wanted to have happen. In short, it was more duct tape.

I liked 13 when I first put it in, but after a short while, the infatuation wore off. I've had the game since launch and still have it to this day, but I've played only 3 Play Now games, and didn't even finish one of them, never played a single online game, and didn't even spend a ton of time in Practice Mode, which is very atypical for me.

It was an OK game, but when things that happened 10 years ago ago are still happening, and having to be subjected to those God awful animations, I just couldn't put myself through it. $60 be damned.

Without a complete overhaul of the animation tech, I don't think there is anything that they can do to get me excited about this game, on any gen. No matter what uber realistic sim feature they might possibly add, the immersion will be instantly broken as soon as the players start moving.

The player models don't do immersion any favors either.