Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

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  • Shaffer26
    MVP
    • Feb 2009
    • 1236

    #106
    Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

    This video is about "flashes" of good-to-great and bad-to-worse animations and gameplay. Yes, the Kerrigan play looked pretty good. The DMC run, not so much. We see this all the time in Madden now, a glimpse of what could/should be but it just hasn't quite gotten over the hump.

    Every game has its flaws. From The Show to NHL to Madden, each game has it's own warts but for me, Madden's "flashes" have not outweighed the product as a whole. I can not justify a purchase until the "good" outweighs the "bad."

    I give slack to games like The Show and 2K basketball not because they are perfect but because the devs strive for a better game each year. No gimics, no excuses. Madden used to be my game, but it's dropped the ball too many times.

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    • RandyBass
      MVP
      • Dec 2009
      • 1179

      #107
      Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

      I know this is a WIP but SMH @ 0:53 of the video, Force Truck Impact or whatever it's called. The guy is stationary, catches a pass and turns upfield into an oncoming defender who has momentum in his favor, and trucks the dude off his feet.

      Sorry if that's old and commented on ad nauseam, but it just stood out to me as looking pretty bad.

      Beyond that I'm actually kind of eager to try this out. What they've shown so far doesn't exactly wow me, but player movement has always been a big issue of mine.

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      • PantherBeast_OS
        RKO!!
        • Apr 2009
        • 6636

        #108
        Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

        After watching the video a few different times. I've seen a little good and some bad. The good is that the tackles look pretty decent and the sack on the Eli looked nice as well. But the bad is that one the the speed of the game still seems way to fast for been on normal. They really need to tone down the speed some. Then second the big hits just look awful The player getting launched 5 feet in the air after been hit. So unreal. As a few people have already said. To early to say what it will look like in about month from now when E3 gets here. I know EA has a history of not getting things done right. But I'm holding out a little hope that things will look good at E3. I guess for now this is a wait and see game. I will not over react over a few clips. But I will not take the hype neither. I will hold final judgement until E3 when we get some decent video of the final product.
        Last edited by PantherBeast_OS; 04-29-2013, 04:21 AM.

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        • BLACKjersey53
          Rookie
          • May 2009
          • 190

          #109
          Those hits would make more sense for a Defender vs. Defenseless Receiver situation, not head-on, running full speed at each other. Like running into a brick wall as many of you have already said.

          Would've liked to see the RB fall when Kerrigan dove into him instead of pull off a Matrix bullet dodge.

          Would've also liked to see "contextual awareness" on the Marshawn Lynch run. Guess you really have to be up close to somebody for that to work.

          McFadden should have faceplanted as both of his legs were caught on a defender. Notice his blocker lays a guy out, stumbles, and proceeds to lay the smackdown on another blocker as he is midair. Maybe he fell afterwards.

          Just as many have already said, I'm hoping these supernatural truck animations are extremely rare. The only way that plays out in real life is where a grown man like me has to truck-stick his neighbor's kid in a pick-up game, and that's not even cool to say. In all my years of watching/playing football, Greg Jones trucking that dude from UNC is the closest I've seen to sending a guy flying. Just my 2 cents.

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          • CT Pitbull
            MVP
            • Aug 2010
            • 1683

            #110
            Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

            Originally posted by jpdavis82
            Exactly and every year people like you come here and say the same old "rinse and repeat" line. If you don't believe this game is improving or changing or even going to, then why are you still coming here? The kind of change people are wanting is most likely not coming until the next gen consoles but everything that Madden 25 on 360/PS3 does right, should encourage us for the future. I know some people just want Madden to fail, but the rest of us are just wanting to see some encouraging features and additions built upon each other year after year from now on. We are wanting a true shift in the minds of the Madden dev team to provide us the quality football game we have so anxiously been waiting for.
            people are just getting tired of WAITING. people like me who have dumped money on this game as well as ncaa football every single year of its existence. sure, some features look good and all but way too many core areas are just completely "off" for the amount of time these games have been around. I blame the lack of competition in the foootball gaming market for this. I mean all you have to do is look at the NBA gaming market. we had competition there and it definitely proved to be beneficial to US. EA just had to close up shop because NBA2k ran them out of the area/took them to the wood shed. from that we all got one of the BEST sports gaming series ever in nba2k. I just wonder what the case would be if the same thing happened in football gaming. WE would only benefit from "whoever" made the better game.
            It's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog...
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            • rootofalleli
              Rookie
              • Feb 2010
              • 272

              #111
              Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

              If they want to impress us, how about something that looks more like the hits in Matt Elam's highlight reel? Seeing this got me really excited for the new Ravens safety, even though he usually wrapped people up. You can see the power in this hits, but he also has technique.

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              • roadman
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #112
                Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

                First time I saw the video.

                Man, I hope they were highlighting the "Impact Hit Stick".

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                • TreFacTor
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1138

                  #113
                  Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

                  Originally posted by roadman
                  First time I saw the video.

                  Man, I hope they were highlighting the "Impact Hit Stick".
                  Or are you hoping that all of the players getting blown up at least fall in different ways? I know they want to highlight the feature, but the fact that all of the players that "lost" on impact...all fell the exact same way (at least seven different players with different sizes and weights all fell on their right shoulder after being blown up....)..with the exact same animation...ugh....the repetitive animations in this game kill me...when will it end.
                  Last edited by TreFacTor; 04-29-2013, 09:56 AM.
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                  • DocHolliday
                    Farewell and 'ado
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 4697

                    #114
                    Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

                    It is becoming quite obvious that EA, while saying the right things to the OS Crowd, have no real desire to make a simulation.

                    With all the other games coming out and a fresh round of kickstarter based titles slated to hit this fall, I will be passing on this joke.
                    GT: Event Horizon 0

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                    • BezO
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 4414

                      #115
                      Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

                      That killed any momentum the write ups created. A couple of things...

                      What games are you all watching where defenders are never wrapping up? How often are the likes of Peterson, Lynch, Green-Ellis, Jackson, Richardson, Turner, McGahee, Murray, etc getting shoulder charged to the ground? I hope you all are not getting this idea from Youtube.

                      Yes, but big hits happen, but they don't look like this. I think Sage said it earlier. The hitee looks like he's taking a charge. How often do you see an NFL player get uprooted like that? There are only a few occasions where a player gets blown up like THAT... major size difference, defender angled to avoid ball carrier's momentum, ball carrier caught off guard, and maybe another 1 or 2 I'm forgetting. The hits in that '12-'13 Hard Hits vid look nothing like what Madden is SHOWCASING.
                      Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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                      • Only1LT
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 3010

                        #116
                        Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

                        Lot of time shift sliding still going on.

                        When they show the part where Manning get's hit during the Impact Dive Tackles bit, the Lineman instantly stop what they are doing and go into a sideways moonwalk to try and prevent the rusher from getting to the QB.

                        I could put the obligatory "I hope this is an early build", but let's be honest, this will be in the retail game. I don't have the strength to deny it anymore.

                        Lot's of other bad stuff going on, but I'll quit while I'm behind.
                        "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling."

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                        • roadman
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 26339

                          #117
                          Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

                          My understanding is with the impact hit stick there is a risk/reward for using it. You will fail and miss too.

                          Seems like this film showed all of the rewards.
                          Last edited by roadman; 04-29-2013, 11:08 AM.

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                          • TreFacTor
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1138

                            #118
                            Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

                            Originally posted by roadman
                            My understand is with the impact hit stick there is a risk/reward for using it. You will fail and miss too.

                            Seems like this film showed all of the rewards.
                            Like hitstick 2.0 Madden 08
                            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qrZLIbFeksQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                            Somehow, and this may just be me, but the hitstick looked better in 08..maybe even in 10 than it does now. There's still time to clean it up, but do they think it needs to be is the question.
                            Last edited by TreFacTor; 04-29-2013, 11:00 AM.
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                            • jcmreds
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 199

                              #119
                              EA shows how in touch they are with current NFL by focusing on the running game and big hits lol.

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                              • roadman
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26339

                                #120
                                Re: Madden NFL 25 Video Interview with Some Early Gameplay Shown (GotGame)

                                Originally posted by TreFacTor
                                Like hitstick 2.0 Madden 08
                                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qrZLIbFeksQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                                Somehow, and this may just be me, but the hitstick looked better in 08..maybe even in 10 than it does now. There's still time to clean it up, but do they think it needs to be is the question.
                                Yeah, let's hope they do.

                                I do like the risk/reward system of it, though. No way I'm hitting the stick with Sam Shields.

                                Clay Mathews, absolutely.

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