No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

[DivotMaker]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

Nonsense, EA knew there was money to be made and tried to tap into it using a different model with Tiger Online. Unfortunately, the product was weak (and was hurt further by being comparatively worse to the console Tiger games--a comparison that it couldn't escape since it was branded similarly). They certainly were right to think that a box game costing $50+ was going to fail on PC, but the game they produced was lousy and never had a chance.

And the previous Tiger PC versions failed miserably focusing primarily on the mass market and offering a really good simulation like mode in Expert in TW08 which had the worst sales of any Tiger PC product since TW2002.

So you can say "nonsense" all you like, but what happened to Links PC, PGA Championship Golf and other PC Golf games that were solid products but never garnered enough of a market to continue to develop and publish?

[Lieutenant Dan]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

Works for me. Patch 14 up nice and tight, and maybe deliver one more course bundle around March next year.

This news just increased the value of my TW14 purchase and DLC.

Thanks EA for choosing to take the time and financial hit to make the next gen TW hopefully great.

[rolltide1017]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

I don't mind them taking a year off but, I'm probably not going to be able to play TW14 after this holiday season. Since the PS4 is not backwards compatible and the next Xbox most likely wont be as well, I'll be out of luck once I get one of the new consoles. Even if I kept my current 360, I don't have any spare inputs on my TV so I would get unhooked anyway but, I always trade-in my current console to help pay for the new one.

I'm fine being without a golf game for a year if the first one on next gen comes out with almost all the current features intact. If TW16 comes out on the PS4/next Xbox as a bare bones game after the year long break then EA will have some serious explaining to do. Having to wait 6 or 7 years for the next gen version to reach TW14 levels will not fly with me this time around. I'm tired of how sports games dump all features at the start of every generation. I hope NCAA takes a year off as well but, I doubt it.

[cdawg44]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

Works for me. Patch 14 up nice and tight, and maybe deliver one more course bundle around March next year.

This news just increased the value of my TW14 purchase and DLC.

Thanks EA for choosing to take the time and financial hit to make the next gen TW hopefully great.

I'm all for paying 30-35 bucks in March next year for a 10 course pack. Harbour Town, Hazeltine, Bay Hill, Riveria and Firestone among others would be great additions back into the series.

[ComfortablyLomb]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

And the previous Tiger PC versions failed miserably focusing primarily on the mass market and offering a really good simulation like mode in Expert in TW08 which had the worst sales of any Tiger PC product since TW2002.

So you can say "nonsense" all you like, but what happened to Links PC, PGA Championship Golf and other PC Golf games that were solid products but never garnered enough of a market to continue to develop and publish?

And I'll continue to call nonsense because it makes no sense that a golf game can't succeed given that a) there is still a lot of PC money out there, b) a ton of low-budget, high-profit games, and c) we're entering an era where more people have PCs that can run some sort of decent looking game. A golf game may not be successful on the scope or scale that EA wants to produce, with the development costs that EA inherently burns, but there is a market and the industry as a whole is failing it right now.

[MHammer113]

Here is its replacement....www.perfectparallel.com

[globalbeats7]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

great news for a franchise that needs to re-work their core....take the year off and build the game solid from the ground up. add all the bells and whistles, which attract the average gamer, afterwards. they have the market pretty much all to themselves, it is time to produce a consistent 9.0+ game.

[globalbeats7]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

Here is its replacement....www.perfectparallel.com

this is what sim golfers have been waiting for.....

[DivotMaker]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

Here is its replacement....www.perfectparallel.com

Before we extoll the virtues of any new game (not replacement), lets see if it actually gets released and how does it play. Alot can happen between now and "Winter 2013". It looks great now, but like any other Golf game before it, it all depends on the execution and support......

[globalbeats7]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

Before we extoll the virtues of any new game (not replacement), lets see if it actually gets released and how does it play. Alot can happen between now and "Winter 2013". It looks great now, but like any other Golf game before it, it all depends on the execution and support......

it is time to get a product in the market that will take the genre in a different direction. as much as I have played TW from 2010-2013 and enjoyed it in the process, it never was SIM. this year, i know you feel differently, the SIM difficulty is not SIM....but it is the best SIM EA has ever put out.

the fact they are taking a year off to focus on next gen '16 hopefully will be a good sign for the franchise. but it also leaves the door open for perfect golf to come in and swoop the sim heads away, and maybe some more. i am looking forward to the competition at the very least.....EA needs it, consumers need it.

[lhslancers]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

I don't mind them taking a year off but, I'm probably not going to be able to play TW14 after this holiday season. Since the PS4 is not backwards compatible and the next Xbox most likely wont be as well, I'll be out of luck once I get one of the new consoles. Even if I kept my current 360, I don't have any spare inputs on my TV so I would get unhooked anyway but, I always trade-in my current console to help pay for the new one.

I'm fine being without a golf game for a year if the first one on next gen comes out with almost all the current features intact. If TW16 comes out on the PS4/next Xbox as a bare bones game after the year long break then EA will have some serious explaining to do. Having to wait 6 or 7 years for the next gen version to reach TW14 levels will not fly with me this time around. I'm tired of how sports games dump all features at the start of every generation. I hope NCAA takes a year off as well but, I doubt it.

There are cheap workaround fixes for your lack of inputs on your TV. Just go to Monoprice to find one. HDMI switches. I don't plan on giving Gamestop my PS3 or my 360 for a few measly bucks. Don't know why anyone would want to sell theirs.

[ComfortablyLomb]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

Before we extoll the virtues of any new game (not replacement), lets see if it actually gets released and how does it play. Alot can happen between now and "Winter 2013". It looks great now, but like any other Golf game before it, it all depends on the execution and support......

This. Right now all I'm seeing on their website are some pretty graphics and a seemingly powerful course architect. That's wonderful, but gameplay matters too.

[globalbeats7]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

This. Right now all I'm seeing on their website are some pretty graphics and a seemingly powerful course architect. That's wonderful, but gameplay matters too.

yes gameplay matters....but some of you act like TW was a gameplay gem. in fact, gameplay was always the biggest issue for TW.

the animation of PG's golf swing is already superior to TW's, what little we can see of it.

[ComfortablyLomb]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

yes gameplay matters....but some of you act like TW was a gameplay gem. in fact, gameplay was always the biggest issue for TW.

the animation of PG's golf swing is already superior to TW's, what little we can see of it.

If you were to look up my post history regarding the Tiger series, calling my views on Tiger "extremely critical" might be an understates. This year's gameplay is EXCELLENT with the right difficulty settings. The old arguments against the game, they don't fly anymore.

[globalbeats7]

Re: No Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 15, Focus Shifts to Next-Gen and Tiger 16

If you were to look up my post history regarding the Tiger series, calling my views on Tiger "extremely critical" might be an understates. This year's gameplay is EXCELLENT with the right difficulty settings. The old arguments against the game, they don't fly anymore.

This years gameplay is harder because of a couple different settings...but all it does is mask a stale and unimproved game core. yes, the game plays harder and more sim-like. scores are down. it is harder to hit fairways, greens, etc. putting is easier, however. but gameplay is more than that to me. we still have limited and unrefined swing animations, ball physics are still subpar, interactions with the elements on the course are still really bad. I am not a big presentation guy but commentary is still horrendous. Will EA ever understand how to implement the rules of golf, ie drops, penalties, out of bounds. game is still glitchy at times when balls warp into weird spots on the course. All these things are part of gameplay that have not been addressed during the current generation. To say the old arguments do not fly anymore, you are blinded by the masking of the harder difficulty settings this year.