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  • Big FN Deal
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    • Aug 2011
    • 5993

    #196
    Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

    Originally posted by jbd345
    It's the fact that people have way to high expectations for realisim in a video game. This is the last year in this gen. Did people honestly believe that there was going to be some sort dramatic overhaul by now???
    FYI, this is a clip from a "video game".

    Originally posted by SageInfinite
    I just hope we're able to duplicate moves and runs like this.

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    • Trick13
      Pro
      • Oct 2012
      • 780

      #197
      Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

      Originally posted by SageInfinite
      ...Just some funky stuff going on that I don't attribute to "early builds" because it's been in there for a couple of years. Just like a players legs going through his own legs. The natural movement is just messed up.
      That weird stuff is really annoying, ball goes through players hands, player disappears into stadium wall while celebrating a TD....

      Is it really that difficult to make these things "solid" in terms of programming??? I am not a tech guy or programmer, but you would think the player models and the ground, at the very least, should be "solid matter" which objects (and other players) should not be able to occupy the same space at the same time. I don't get why that happens...

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      • Only1LT
        MVP
        • Jul 2009
        • 3010

        #198
        Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

        Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
        I think this site would be happier if no information was posted for Madden.

        Every information that has been released is filled with multiple pages of nothing but bashing.

        Anways, the video looked decent. It still has a ways to go but no big time complaints besides the moves need to be slowed down and tuned.

        EDIT::

        Also the video looks to have been sped up quite a bit. One big thing that need to change if they are allowing this moves, take out the hideous jump back move where the defender is laying on the ground before he even jumps back. Looks awful.
        Does the content of those videos not bear any responsibility for any of the bashing?

        The bottom line is this. EA released the videos in April for the game. Did they release them so that we would NOT talk about them? If the game is much further along in development, and these videos aren't indicative of the game's current state, or of the retail game's quality, then why release them? You can't have it both ways.

        How about if everyone said how great the videos are? Would you come on here and say you have no idea how the game will turn out based on those vids. The footage is months old. They could be messing everything up as we speak.

        Seriously doubt it.
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        • Only1LT
          MVP
          • Jul 2009
          • 3010

          #199
          Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

          Originally posted by jbd345
          It's the fact that people have way to high expectations for realisim in a video game. This is the last year in this gen. Did people honestly believe that there was going to be some sort dramatic overhaul by now???
          That's not a fact. I feel the exact opposite. I think people's expectations are way too low, actually. Notice I said "I think."
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          • californ14
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            • Oct 2012
            • 473

            #200
            Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

            I agree with the previous criticisms of the "Jump Jukes"; that just doesn't happen....Then you consider the "jump juke" being played out in snow and rain games, the runner would fall down every time if the results of the "jump juke" was realistically represented....

            Hope this is something EA Tiburon clean up...

            Also hope that the how the runner cuts or changes directions while exclusively using the "left sick" has some tie in to how drastically the user pushes the stick to the left or right...Obviously, as the previous posters videos show, open field change of directions do not all require foot planting to perform; just need to ensure the zig-zag and gliding are eliminated as best as possible....

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            • jpdavis82
              All Star
              • Sep 2005
              • 8794

              #201
              Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

              Originally posted by californ14
              I agree with the previous criticisms of the "Jump Jukes"; that just doesn't happen....Then you consider the "jump juke" being played out in snow and rain games, the runner would fall down every time if the results of the "jump juke" was realistically represented....

              Hope this is something EA Tiburon clean up...

              Also hope that the how the runner cuts or changes directions while exclusively using the "left sick" has some tie in to how drastically the user pushes the stick to the left or right...Obviously, as the previous posters videos show, open field change of directions do not all require foot planting to perform; just need to ensure the zig-zag and gliding are eliminated as best as possible....
              Here's the best jukes of all time, feel free to compare and contrast to the trailer

              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uwzIwQ0b1zM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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              • NDAlum
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                • Jun 2010
                • 11453

                #202
                Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

                Did they eliminate the hard left stick running you can do? The hard movements where you don't lose any running speed and can cut on a dime?
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                • SageInfinite
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 11896

                  #203
                  Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

                  Originally posted by Trick13
                  That weird stuff is really annoying, ball goes through players hands, player disappears into stadium wall while celebrating a TD....

                  Is it really that difficult to make these things "solid" in terms of programming??? I am not a tech guy or programmer, but you would think the player models and the ground, at the very least, should be "solid matter" which objects (and other players) should not be able to occupy the same space at the same time. I don't get why that happens...
                  While those things are annoying they happen even in the stellar sports games for the most part, but Madden/NCAA they just stand out and happen so much more.
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                  • NDAlum
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                    • Jun 2010
                    • 11453

                    #204
                    Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

                    It looks really bad to me (that .gif)

                    That animation is just really lame to begin with and definitely doesn't apply to what SHOULD happen there
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                    • SageInfinite
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11896

                      #205
                      Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

                      Originally posted by jpdavis82
                      Here's the best jukes of all time, feel free to compare and contrast to the trailer

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uwzIwQ0b1zM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                      This video is just depressing after watching the Madden footage, lol. Just too many missing frames of animation to even come close. Not to mention the animations just lack natural movement.
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                      • TreFacTor
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1138

                        #206
                        Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

                        Originally posted by SageInfinite
                        This video is just depressing after watching the Madden footage, lol. Just too many missing frames of animation to even come close. Not to mention the animations just lack natural movement.
                        Look closer to TGTSNBN than Madden, I don't think I would have showcased Brian Westbrook in a comparison to Madden but that's just me..
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                        • jpdavis82
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                          • Sep 2005
                          • 8794

                          #207
                          Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

                          Originally posted by TreFacTor
                          Look closer to TGTSNBN than Madden, I don't think I would have showcased Brian Westbrook in a comparison to Madden but that's just me..
                          SO you watched what one highlight and then quit? Westbrook isn't even in the video after the first 20 seconds.

                          TGTSNBN? What is that?

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                          • SageInfinite
                            Stop The GOAT Talk
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 11896

                            #208
                            Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

                            Originally posted by jpdavis82
                            SO you watched what one highlight and then quit? Westbrook isn't even in the video after the first 20 seconds.

                            TGTSNBN? What is that?
                            I think it's "the game that shall not be named"?
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                            • jpdavis82
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                              • Sep 2005
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                              #209
                              Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

                              Originally posted by SageInfinite
                              I think it's "the game that shall not be named"?
                              LOL so he's comparing real life to that game and not the other way around? Give me a break

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                              • Only1LT
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                                • Jul 2009
                                • 3010

                                #210
                                Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

                                Originally posted by SageInfinite
                                I think it's "the game that shall not be named"?
                                I'm gonna start charging royalties around here lol.
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