Women Not in FIFA 14 This Year, the Right Call?

[tHurley2010]

A couple of questions to answer with regards to whether FIFA (or any sports game for that matter) should include women players and teams in their genre respective video games:

Since I got trigger happy:

1) Will including women significantly increase sales? As a lot of people said, women soccer is only really popular in the USA, I think mostly due to the fact that the USWNT is ranked #1 in the world. But other than that, women are, on the average, not as fast, not as strong, and not as reactive as men, and that would make the game not as exciting. If EA thinks including women will boost sales, then they'll by all means go for it, but I am of the opinion that sales would not significantly increase because most women are not sports video game players. The only game where it would be worthwhile is TW PGA because there really isn't a big difference between men and women golfers besides power--which is corrected for by the women playing shorter courses

2) Is it right for video games to not include women? This question is pretty self-explanatory and is ethical in nature. It has less to due with how it will affect sales and more to do with is it right that women aren't included in video games. I believe it is, because the brands being marketed are the NBA, NFL, MLB, NCAAMF, NHL, FIFA, and PGA, all of which don't have a woman player on them. So long as there is regularly not women on any of these men's sports, I think it is fair for women to be left out of the video games.

[imhatch]

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"maintain the status quo" is a stupid ****ing reason to not have women in the game (and not to do anything ever), sorry. the nhl series had women and the option to create a female pro in it. the tiger woods series has women and a women's tournament in it. women's hockey and golf are definitely less popular than women's soccer so popularity and "well would it increase sales?" are dumb points made irrelevant by the fact that ea has already done this before in different sports series.

[Yeats]

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Why is this an issue? What's next, WNBA not in NBA 2k, right call?

I'm very PC when it comes to supporting women's rights etc. but this is the correct perspective here, absolutely.

[The Goonibomber]

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Why bother implementing women when you could just throw in the worst of the men? No sense made by trying to be inclusive for the sake of being inclusive....

[Nox_Caelum]

If they want to, sure, but I'd rather they concentrate on actually improving the game before putting women's football in, seeing as I wouldn't play it.

[Mo]

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Since I got trigger happy:

But other than that, women are, on the average, not as fast, not as strong, and not as reactive as men, and that would make the game not as exciting.

I would suggest actually watching a match before implying that it's not as exciting.

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As for the question at hand, if EA comes out with a FIFA WC Edition for 2014, that would be the perfect time to unleash this. Having the option to play the Mens or Womens WC would be awesome.

[Buckeyed]

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"maintain the status quo" is a stupid ****ing reason to not have women in the game (and not to do anything ever), sorry. the nhl series had women and the option to create a female pro in it. the tiger woods series has women and a women's tournament in it. women's hockey and golf are definitely less popular than women's soccer so popularity and "well would it increase sales?" are dumb points made irrelevant by the fact that ea has already done this before in different sports series.

Would it increase sales is the whole point. It is called capitalism not boo flipping hoo, women need to be in the game because we are all sissy hipsters these days. The game would not sell by itself and as a feature I tend to think a very small populace would really care past the initial curiosity. EA would make it unrealistic by having them play the same way men play.

[imhatch]

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Would it increase sales is the whole point. It is called capitalism not boo flipping hoo, women need to be in the game because we are all sissy hipsters these days. The game would not sell by itself and as a feature I tend to think a very small populace would really care past the initial curiosity. EA would make it unrealistic by having them play the same way men play.

lol oh no you called me a hipster ;_;

my whole point was that nhl and tiger woods introduced professional women athletes and tournaments recently and womens soccer is demonstrably "more popular" than womens hockey and golf. somehow the world survived the women in the nhl series being playable in the career mode (with men omg!!!) and the idea of a woman golfer winning the masters in tiger woods. they don't even have mls right in fifa 13; i doubt anyone is clamoring for professional leagues right off the bat, just an international team or two. this is not some unprecedented, deep dark territory for ea. they literally introduced and implemented the concept in two other franchises already.

besides, if ea only cared about ~maximum profits~ in this capitalistic paradise you've crafted in your head they wouldn't actually even bother with the manpower and costs of improving the game even slightly year to year and fifa 08 would be indistinguishable from fifa 13.

[Azamien]

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I'm very PC when it comes to supporting women's rights etc. but this is the correct perspective here, absolutely.

Not really, since it's not the same thing at all. WNBA is its own league with its own union. Making an NBA game doesn't mean the WNBA should be included. Women's soccer, on the other hand, is overseen by FIFA, and its professional players are members of FIFPro. Same as the men.

I'm not saying women need to be included, since as with all leagues it depends on whether or not it would be worth the resources spent to do it, but equating it with NBA/WNBA is daft.

[Goonerish]

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I would suggest actually watching a match before implying that it's not as exciting.

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As for the question at hand, if EA comes out with a FIFA WC Edition for 2014, that would be the perfect time to unleash this. Having the option to play the Mens or Womens WC would be awesome.

Yikes. Adjust your sliders to 0 (shot speed , goalkeeping ,acceleration etc) and maybe you could get close to the womens game. Please make it a seperate game and don't screw up my Fifa!

[Goonerish]

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I would suggest actually watching a match before implying that it's not as exciting.

...............

As for the question at hand, if EA comes out with a FIFA WC Edition for 2014, that would be the perfect time to unleash this. Having the option to play the Mens or Womens WC would be awesome.

I have watched and it is like watching paint dry or grass grow.

[_ChicoBass]

You guys seriously don't give Women's Soccer the credit it deserves. Are you guys really not aware that Women's Soccer is the cure for insomnia?

[Emphasize]

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[Women athletes turned soft mode photo shoot] Maria - Fowler, eyes discharge.

[tHurley2010]

Re: Women Not in FIFA 14 This Year, the Right Call?

I would suggest actually watching a match before implying that it's not as exciting.

...............

As for the question at hand, if EA comes out with a FIFA WC Edition for 2014, that would be the perfect time to unleash this. Having the option to play the Mens or Womens WC would be awesome.

I have watched women's games before. I watched the USWNT against Brazil in the 2011 World Cup. And that game was every bit as exciting as a men's game. There is no denying that the women's game CAN BE as exciting as a men's game.

But there's a big difference. I am a fan of the USMNT and Manchester City. I watch them play almost every game, and it's exciting. I watch the USWNT play whenever they do and the game is exciting, but it's because I have a rooting interest. I can't watch the Canadian and French women's teams play against each other. But I can watch Arsenal and West Brom play against each other. There's your difference.