Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

[Only1LT]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

Why do you continue to focus on "what you want to talk about" when I'm asking you a question.

Is 8 way running not a simulation improvement over 4 way running? Footplanting is not part of the question, but part of the following point.

If you agree that 8-way running is more sim than the previous (if you can focus for a minute, that is), would you then agree that 8-way is NOT arcade, but merely is broken because it lacks footplanting?

Thus concluding they add sim features, which some are broken, and thus are broken simulation features. They are NOT arcade features, they were NOT designed so we could swerve around like idiots, that was NOT the intent.


Yet you sit here bellowing out "THEY ARE MAKING AN ARCADE GAME"





I'm suggesting that there are many reasons as to why these games have the sales result they do. I gave the competition example, you could factor in the reduced cost of consoles over time, you could factor into what the real life leagues are going through, etc, etc.

You are making concrete claims that it's because they are "more sim" without any legitimate proof to that.

It's merely one possible part to the equation and nothing more, but to support your argument you seem to believe it's the end all be all explanation.

I've answered your question.

8-way running isn't a sim or non sim feature. It is a control mechanic. It is outside the scope of the game itself. It is no more or less sim than using a controller or a Wiimote.

I'm talking about the programming that interprets the input, not the input device used. They didn't implement 4-way running because it was arcade and they didn't implement 8-way running because it was sim. They implemented 4-way running because it made sense given the input device (D-pad) and changed it when the input device of choice changed (analog stick). This is not a feature of sim-ness anymore than a pressure sensitive button is or rapid fire is. The sim-ness or lack thereof is in the programming. Again, the deceleration, balance, momentum, etc.

There is more to support that a realistic game WILL sell than there is to support that it won't. I'll leave it at that.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

Is it too late for EA to remove the pause? That was pure sweetness without the pause.
Glad we are seeing some things we've been wanted finally in. This "group" seems to be getting it so instead of saying "about time" and throwing in the negativity spin I'll just say, thanks.

[speedy9386]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

Why do you continue to focus on "what you want to talk about" when I'm asking you a question.

Is 8 way running not a simulation improvement over 4 way running? Footplanting is not part of the question, but part of the following point.

If you agree that 8-way running is more sim than the previous (if you can focus for a minute, that is), would you then agree that 8-way is NOT arcade, but merely is broken because it lacks footplanting?

Thus concluding they add sim features, which some are broken, and thus are broken simulation features. They are NOT arcade features, they were NOT designed so we could swerve around like idiots, that was NOT the intent.


Yet you sit here bellowing out "THEY ARE MAKING AN ARCADE GAME"





I'm suggesting that there are many reasons as to why these games have the sales result they do. I gave the competition example, you could factor in the reduced cost of consoles over time, you could factor into what the real life leagues are going through, etc, etc.

You are making concrete claims that it's because they are "more sim" without any legitimate proof to that.

It's merely one possible part to the equation and nothing more, but to support your argument you seem to believe it's the end all be all explanation.

So are you saying that a sim approach isn't what you want?

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

Btw tfctillidie you forgot about Live and 2k, 2k took Live out of business because it was more realistic aka sim

Actually, Live is coming back out, so, it's not out of business, yet.

[speedy9386]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

True but point being that sim gameplay can still produce sales.

[regroc88]

bout Damn Time!!!!! 25 yrs to do something so simple!!!! Now put some Damn HeadSeTs on the Coaches!!! how the hell r they calling in Plays with no headSets!!! lol Real Talk!!!

[speedy9386]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

Man what is up are they putting this defense video or what?

[jeremyp1223]

tbh, their has been a few times where the screen doesn't freeze on a pick, although Its probably a glitch.

[bucky60]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

Ok, Madden has no comp either, so making an ultra realistic game will, likewise, not negatively impact sales, because there is nothing else to buy. So again, where is the downside to making a realistic game?

Cost of development. That's your downside for EA/Tib. Lower profits. I agree, higher sales, but lower profits per sale and lower profits overall. And really, that's about the only downside I see.

[Redskins_Hokies]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Quick Hits - Sidline Interceptions

Can we please get interceptions that are caught and then dropped. We see passes all the time in Madden that look like they are caught and then they just lose control of the ball. In Madden with interceptions it's either an interception and the camera rotates or it is a straight drop...very annoying

[slick589]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

Yep. They locked the thread about this. Hopefully, the site isn't at a point where people can't ask questions about things like this. Its like the DOJ and the Associate Press sometimes in the forums.

Agreed. We are just trying to get some info but every thread gets locked and people get warned.

Hopefully if the do release a video we see some of these ints

[The_Rick_14]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

Agreed. We are just trying to get some info but every thread gets locked and people get warned.

Hopefully if the do release a video we see some of these ints

Because there was already a thread about that video that turned into the usual OS shouting match and wasn't doing anything productive since there was no video anyway. When the video is released (if it's released), there will be a thread containing it for discussion about it. No need for multiple "Where is the video?" threads on the first page.

Back on topic, this is good news that I'm looking forward to seeing in action but Redskins_Hokies makes a good point about getting some juggling catches into the game.

The knockout interactions added last year are cool, but it would be pretty awesome to let IE cause break-ups naturally if the ball is juggled and then the receiver (or defender in the case of an INT attempt) is hit.

[slick589]

Re: Madden NFL 25 - Sideline & Back of Endzone Interceptions Are In (UPDATED)

Because there was already a thread about that video that turned into the usual OS shouting match and wasn't doing anything productive since there was no video anyway. When the video is released (if it's released), there will be a thread containing it for discussion about it. No need for multiple "Where is the video?" threads on the first page.

Back on topic, this is good news that I'm looking forward to seeing in action but Redskins_Hokies makes a good point about getting some juggling catches into the game.

The knockout interactions added last year are cool, but it would be pretty awesome to let IE cause break-ups naturally if the ball is juggled and then the receiver (or defender in the case of an INT attempt) is hit.

Yea I'd like to see passes broken up like that but to anticipate IE being tethered to the ball. We will get either a catch or a drop animation with no real time ball physics.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Why can't learning something new that benefits the realism of the game be an option?

lol

Online is the reason. If you throw an int online. And one user has it set to pause and let the screen turn, while another user has it in real time, it would throw off the synchronization of the game, and cause a drop.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Oops quoted wrong person meant to quote who you quoted.