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  • TyghtWork
    Rookie
    • May 2003
    • 375

    #16
    Re: Defensive Trailer UP

    0:08 you see the linemen driving blocking on #96 inside woodley. then later @ 1:11 i think rams #79 running the de up field. both new to me

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    • jpdavis82
      All Star
      • Sep 2005
      • 8794

      #17
      Re: Defensive Trailer UP

      Go look at the screenshots I'm posting, there's more to this than you realize.

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      • mvb34
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        • Jul 2002
        • 8138

        #18
        Re: Defensive Trailer UP

        Originally posted by ghettogeeksta
        yeah, seems like they went the same route as NCAA Football 14 and just improved the run block logic only. If their was a drastic improvement in line play it would have been highlighted, I wasn't expecting this to change on the current gen version anyway but I am not entirely confident that the next-gen version will be any better.

        I thought that were to highlighted the tackling and pursuit angles they never said line interaction..
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        • DeuceDouglas
          Madden Dev Team
          • Apr 2010
          • 4297

          #19
          Re: Defensive Trailer UP

          Pretty much what I expected. I liked the Watt play. Looked like there was a little bit of in-between time rather than just straight win/lose like in the Ware clip. Didn't like some of the hits where the ball just fell out. I really want the hit stick gone.

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          • californ14
            Banned
            • Oct 2012
            • 473

            #20
            Re: Defensive Trailer UP

            At 0:27 I see the Cardinals players, #84 & #75, putting a double team block on a Seahawks player....Looks good...

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            • californ14
              Banned
              • Oct 2012
              • 473

              #21
              Re: Defensive Trailer UP

              Also starting at 0:37 you see two instances side by side of double team blocks by Chiefs offensive linemen against Raider defenders...


              Also, starting at 0:39 you see Raider #52 come in contact with a Chiefs blocker, in the back ground, and instead of being suctioned in the Raider, #52, pushes away with one arm....
              Last edited by californ14; 05-15-2013, 01:16 PM.

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              • Elite49
                Rookie
                • Jun 2007
                • 211

                #22
                Re: Defensive Trailer UP

                Why does it seem that IE2 is still not being used for Tackles? No one wants to see the same tackle over and over like last year. The only time IE1 came into play (after demo) was when more than one person ran into ballcarrier.

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                • californ14
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 473

                  #23
                  Re: Defensive Trailer UP

                  One thing I do not like starts at 0:58....The Seahawks appear to be running a sweep to their left; Seahawks #75 fires out to take on 49ers LB #53, but the Seahawks blocker takers on the 49er LB by going after his backside shoulder thus placing a poor block on the LB which is moving in the direction of the sweep, hence away from the block, and makes the tackle....

                  Not sure if this is poor mechanics showing through or poor ratings in regards to the blocker...

                  On a high note - Bowman (53) does push away from the blocker, which may show again an instance where suction blocking is reduced...

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                  • alabamarob
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3351

                    #24
                    Re: Defensive Trailer UP

                    The first clip of ray rice? I thought run free had footplanting. Rice ran towards the line and changed directions toward the sideline without planting. Looked like 13 running. Also the falcons linebacker blowing up olson and tackling d williams in less than a second was to nfl blitz like. The game seems like it is moving way to fast. Hopefully, the trailer does not represent the game speed. If everything was slowed down it would look more realistic. I did like some of the block shedding animations by bowman
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                    • californ14
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 473

                      #25
                      Re: Defensive Trailer UP

                      Starter at 1:02 is something that causes me concern, Saints LB #50 is coming in on the RB and Saints DL #94 trails off to the right side of the offense, going off screen, while the Panthers OL men #63 & #67 double team a defender to the left of the offense leaving what would appear to be OL #77 to take on the Saints LB #50 who is charging in on the RB, but at the last second #77 shoots off to the right off screen allowing the Saints #50 to come in and make the play on Cam Newton, untouched....

                      This seems to show poor blocking assignments on either #63 or #77....I can see #77 flaring outside as Cam Newton is keeping the ball and appears to be trying to run in the direction #77 is blocking to, but no one picked up the LB....I hope again that this is a ratings determined missed block and not a base error in assignment..

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                      • TyghtWork
                        Rookie
                        • May 2003
                        • 375

                        #26
                        Re: Defensive Trailer UP

                        Originally posted by californ14
                        Starter at 1:02 is something that causes me concern, Saints LB #50 is coming in on the RB and Saints DL #94 trails off to the right side of the offense, going off screen, while the Panthers OL men #63 & #67 double team a defender to the left of the offense leaving what would appear to be OL #77 to take on the Saints LB #50 who is charging in on the RB, but at the last second #77 shoots off to the right off screen allowing the Saints #50 to come in and make the play on Cam Newton, untouched....

                        This seems to show poor blocking assignments on either #63 or #77....I can see #77 flaring outside as Cam Newton is keeping the ball and appears to be trying to run in the direction #77 is blocking to, but no one picked up the LB....I hope again that this is a ratings determined missed block and not a base error in assignment..
                        Thats a zone read, he should have gave the ball and D. Williams is still running. They reading the player that hit Cam. I think its good that #63 is getting to the 2nd LvL on that play. IMO
                        Last edited by TyghtWork; 05-15-2013, 02:18 PM.

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                        • Sheen_O_Mack
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 175

                          #27
                          Re: Defensive Trailer UP

                          Originally posted by TyghtWork
                          Thats a zone read, he should have gave the ball and D. Williams is still running. They reading the player that hit Cam. I think its good that #63 is getting to the 2nd LvL on that play. IMO
                          You're right. To a point.

                          If you look at Cam's head it looks like he is looking at #50, which would make him the read key, but Cam did make the right decision by keeping the ball. When running option and the read key "attacks" the QB keeps, when the key stays home you give. I'm hoping that #50 (Lofton) made that play based on ratings, or a user was controlling him. #63 looked to be chipping the NT and going second level (at least I hope that was it and not him taking a bad angle right into the NT)
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                          • MrJCOreo
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 71

                            #28
                            Re: Defensive Trailer UP

                            "Meh." That's how I feel after the gameplay trailers. Hopefully there is something a bit more substantial in the CFM playbook in a few days.

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                            • UMhester04
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1384

                              #29
                              Re: Defensive Trailer UP

                              Guys, cmon...that honestly wasn't a bad trailer at all.

                              One thing that stuck out to me was one of the first tackles where I think it was JJ Watt kind of "rode" the block and tackled Ray Rice. This is huge for the running game if those kind of blocks are in the game.

                              Everything else looked fine to me.

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                              • californ14
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 473

                                #30
                                Re: Defensive Trailer UP

                                It does appear that the runners are holding the ball better which looks better when hit, though there is not wrapping up of the ball; maybe the runner is user controlled and they are not hitting the "protect ball" button?

                                Is nice that the runners have been holding the ball in their outside arm away from contact...

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