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  • KANE699
    EA Sports' Equipment Guru
    • Jul 2007
    • 3447

    #16
    Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

    Alright the captains patches are still upside down!

    Not sure why Peppers is standing up inbetween the center and guard though.
    Please take note that most of what I say and post is made in satire.

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    • jpdavis82
      All Star
      • Sep 2005
      • 8794

      #17
      Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

      Originally posted by SmashMan
      Right-clicked on one image to view it and see if a higher res was available, and noticed in the URLs that they used pics 2-5 in the article. Not sure there's much to see in pic #1, but eh - it's a new screenshot.



      http://web-vassets.ea.com/Assets/Res...-defense-1.jpg
      I did the same thing on the Run Free Blog and found these!

      Crap, who knew????






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      • N51_rob
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        • Jul 2003
        • 14805

        #18
        Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

        Not one word on improved DB play. Are outs and corners still going to be money 95% of the time?
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        • jpdavis82
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          • Sep 2005
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          #19
          Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

          Originally posted by N51_rob
          Not one word on improved DB play. Are outs and corners still going to be money 95% of the time?
          This was the only piece I found in the article about DBs

          Furthermore, if you manage to pop a ball carrier with the Hit Stick while he’s performing one of the special precision modifier moves, the chances of causing a fumble increase. So if you’re up against an opponent who loves flashy moves, line him up with the Hit Stick and see if he doesn’t get a bit more conservative. This concept carries over into the passing game as well, as cornerbacks and safeties who trigger the Hit Stick as a receiver makes a catch have a higher chance of jarring the ball loose.

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          • N51_rob
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            • Jul 2003
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            #20
            Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

            Sorry, JP but I read that too and that isn't what I'm talking about and I think you know that.
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            • Big FN Deal
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              • Aug 2011
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              #21
              Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

              Originally posted by KBLover
              Doesn't this happen already? I'm not seeing why they are considering it something "new" to defense.

              I see receivers drop the ball often when they get plastered trying to make a catch?
              I think that is with the caveat that you use sliders, I am referring to online ranked games and default All Madden where I have repeatedly seen defenders arrive when the ball does, only to have the ball stick to the receivers hands. It's one of my peeves with Madden and lead me to start inquiring about how the catch animations work.

              Looking back at some old posts, it does seem that in M13 they initially did allow for drop passes if a User controlled receiver attempted to turn upfield too soon without "looking the ball in"/securing the catch, so hopefully this is an extension of that. A catch should never be triggered, imo, there should always be a process of securing the ball/gaining possession, that hasn't been there, at least not consistently. Drop passes from hits in M13 seemed random to me, not based on the fact the defender actually broke up the pass before the receiver could secure the ball.

              I'm rambling on and on about this because I feel it so important, the number of completed passes without proper separation or body position by the receiver in Madden irks me. For example comeback routes, one of the reasons they were so effective in M13 was because even if the DB recovered and closed the gap, hitting the receiver just as the ball arrived, it was still a catch.

              This video is a good example of what I am referring to, watch how even when the defenders are making hits just as or a little after the ball arrives, the receiver still easily brings in the catch.



              Now of course there are other issues shown in that video, with regard to defenders not jamming receivers and the adaptive AI in general but I am just referring to the lack of breaking up the pass with contact.
              Last edited by Big FN Deal; 05-15-2013, 02:37 PM.

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              • ghettogeeksta
                Banned
                • Sep 2011
                • 2632

                #22
                Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

                Originally posted by jpdavis82
                This was the only piece I found in the article about DBs

                Furthermore, if you manage to pop a ball carrier with the Hit Stick while he’s performing one of the special precision modifier moves, the chances of causing a fumble increase. So if you’re up against an opponent who loves flashy moves, line him up with the Hit Stick and see if he doesn’t get a bit more conservative. This concept carries over into the passing game as well, as cornerbacks and safeties who trigger the Hit Stick as a receiver makes a catch have a higher chance of jarring the ball loose.
                This is nothing new! Either it was in Madden 13 (which I dont know because I didn't buy it) but I know it was in before, which means if it wasnt in Madden 13, they took it out and are now adding it back like it's a new feature, smh.

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                • jpdavis82
                  All Star
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 8794

                  #23
                  Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

                  Originally posted by ghettogeeksta
                  This is nothing new! Either it was in Madden 13 (which I dont know because I didn't buy it) but I know it was in before, which means if it wasnt in Madden 13, they took it out and are now adding it back like it's a new feature, smh.
                  I keep telling guys this and I'm standing by it until proving wrong. Don't look at what happened before Madden 13 when you judge this game from now on. These are new devs and they are focusing on gameplay first and foremost. There was no marketing of this whatsoever so to say they are adding it back as a new feature is far from the truth, probably less than 1000 people will even read that blog. It may be in Madden 13 to a degree, but if they have made some improvements, fixed some things with it, it's at least worth a mention in a blog. Because as SOON as they don't then everyone says well how come this wasn't fixed or is such and such in the game?

                  I'm not defending EA, but I'm just being unbiased and honest. There's far too much EA Hate or Love and not enough honest unbiased opinions out there.

                  Oh and you didn't buy Madden 13 so you probably shouldn't speak on this topic. When you hit the hit stick in Madden 13 it resulted in what should be a pass interference or else you just fell down. What happened before Madden 13 is irrelevant to me.

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                  • N51_rob
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by jpdavis82
                    What happened before Madden 13 is irrelevant to me.
                    Somewhere there is a statement about it learning from history.... I can respect your opinion but it's still EA Sports for better or worse. Only judging by Madden 13 is naive IMO.

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                    • bigbob
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                      • Sep 2007
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                      #25
                      Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

                      Originally posted by N51_rob
                      Not one word on improved DB play. Are outs and corners still going to be money 95% of the time?
                      I thought it was posted in another thread, but I was under the impression that they didn't touch DB play (as well as DB/WR Interactions). I'll see if I can find it, because it was a quote from someone at EA.
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                      • kingsofthevalley
                        MVP
                        • May 2011
                        • 1965

                        #26
                        Looks decent to me. I'm looking forward to it as they showed a few new tackle animations that I really liked. In addition to the new tackle animations, I see they tightened up the infinity engine a bit. The players seem to have actual tension now because I'm not seeing the flailing arms, they're actually wrapping up on the tackles. Good ****.
                        Last edited by kingsofthevalley; 05-15-2013, 05:00 PM.

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                        • jpdavis82
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                          • Sep 2005
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                          #27
                          Re: Madden NFL 25 Blog - Playing Defense

                          Originally posted by N51_rob
                          Somewhere there is a statement about it learning from history.... I can respect your opinion but it's still EA Sports for better or worse. Only judging by Madden 13 is naive IMO.

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                          I think it's because I am convinced that they learned from history, that I can say that I'm only judging them based on Madden 13 and from now.

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                          • Facts
                            Rookie
                            • May 2009
                            • 203

                            #28
                            Still no word on better presnap alignments or pressing the TE's and slot backs.

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                            • jpdavis82
                              All Star
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 8794

                              #29
                              Re: Madden NFL 25 Blog - Playing Defense

                              Originally posted by Facts
                              Still no word on better presnap alignments or pressing the TE's and slot backs.
                              Some of these things we just have to be patient for guys, once E3 comes we will have a lot better idea of what was and wasn't fixed in Madden 25.

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                              • coolcat3
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                                • May 2013
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                                #30
                                Re: EA Sports: Playing Defense in Madden 25

                                Originally posted by ghettogeeksta
                                I'm wasn't expecting anything different than in years past from the current-gen Madden, but seeing crap like this gets me discourages about the next-gen Madden. It's hard for me to believe that they can turn this franchise around, especially in the first next-gen release, but I hope they can, I really don't wanna go another 8-10 years without playing a good NFL game.
                                This is why I would love to see 2k make another NFL game. They have it in them to make a perfect football game (or close to perfect) The only complaint with APF was that there were no current players.

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