NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

[grabursock55]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

Just to be clear, I am fine with the way they are approaching recruiting this year. I think it is a solid system that a lot of us grew fond of in NCAA on the last gen consoles. But it is more refined and logical based on your schools ratings. (I cant tell you how many times I pitched "Championship contender and signed a guy in year one of a dynasty where I didnt have a chance on last gen).

I am still interested in this game regardless of what they do or dont add tomorrow, and I believe that we are headed in the right direction with this series.

[Mckinley Cash]

does anyone think they will release more info tomorrow? I feel like they might...

I would even be satisfied if they added the gameface feature to dynasty and rtg. Madden is doing all this cool stuff; steal that ****!

[Mckinley Cash]

The best thing about the dynasty info release, imo, was how fluid the gameplay looked in the dynasty trailer. Lol

[Swamp Swagger]

The best thing about the dynasty info release, imo, was how fluid the gameplay looked in the dynasty trailer. Lol

You mean from the 2 second clip lol

[Mckinley Cash]

You mean from the 2 second clip lol

Yeah, where the running back leaned around the corner. That 2 sec clip looked better than this entire generation of gameplay. Lol

[JerseySuave4]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

I'm so pumped about the new recruiting. I hated the old recruiting system. It took far too long. I just want to be able to play the games.

Would you say it was the recruiting that took too long or the slow menus that contributed to recruiting taking so long. Everything took forever with those menus.

[DorianDonP]

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I feel so disingenuous giving praise to the recruiting. Yes, on paper (still have to play it) it's a step up from what it was, but it still feels like hundreds of steps away from where I'd feel justified praising them.

It feels like a bandaid video game fix, not the total overhaul in philosophy, functionality, and strategy that this series needs. In other words, it's more of the same, even if the details are a tad bit improved, slightly better.

I honestly don't have a problem with time consuming recruiting if it's done right and isn't repetitive, unrealistic, and tedious. The ideal fix isn't simply to nuke the time spent on recruiting, but that's essentially what is being done.

I want to feel like I'm recruiting teenagers, with different personalities and different skillsets that may or may not fit my system and I want there to be a tangible difference between getting the right guy for your system and getting the wrong guy.

I follow recruiting in real life. Rivals, ESPN, 247. It's frustrating and nerve racking and fun and stupid. But it's always engaging. The new recruiting system in NCAA 14 might eliminate some of the time consuming nature of past recruiting, but it's still a mindless, soulless system of spamming points towards generic players. I understand points are supposed to represent resources, but man, after you spend five minutes figuring out how it works, it's really nothing more than a video gamey point assignment session. It doesn't feel like football, and it's a real disconnect from the sim aspect of handling a team.

Texas has 13 recruits already verbaled right now, 3 months before the season starts. It just never feels realistic having so few verbals throughout the season (because you evaluate them way later than coaches do in real life), big prospects with so few offers, and so few differentiating factors between recruiting the #1 ILB and the #7 ILB.

IMO, there needs to be

• signing day hysteria.... a show... a ceremony with hat switches, newspaper articles, emails or texts, actual dialogue you can have with recruits, something
• HS stats, personalities (i.e. easy to coach/progress vs difficult to coach...player may take longer to progress)
• ratings that can change depending on the type of system they go to (i.e a running QB being rated 74 with an option offense but a 66 in a pass heavy offense)
• playable all star games, or heck, playable high school games where you can really get a feel for the recruits
• real pipelines to powerhouse programs in the state. Maybe the top states like Florida, Cali, and Texas have 10 powerhouse programs while states like New York won't have any. These powerhouse programs will produce top talent each year but you have to spend a cetain amount of time at the program to become a pipeline...sometimes even signing 2 and 3 star guys to stay connected to the (fictional) school.
• GPAs and players that don't qualify. They head to JUCO and you can recruit them in 2 years. Borderline guys are 50/50 and you might get a steal if you continue recruiting the borderline prospect while the other teams stop recruiting him.
• recruits that are aware of who is signing to your team so you don't sign 3 five star QBs...or how about if you're recruiting two star QBs, one of them tells you that he will drop you from his list of schools if you keep recruiting the other stud QB...decisions, decisions...
• strategic visit options like assigning players on your team to host visits, or having an activity to either impress the parents or impress the kid, which could barkfire if you pick wrong
• the ability to assign position coaches to specific regions to recruit. Send your top recruiter to the pipelines or send your top recruiter to untapped territory to win over the area.
• I could go on and on. And for those that don't wanna deal with deep recruiting, allow them to assign it all to their assistant coaches.

500 points for the week. Down 325 points. Recruiting point bonuses. + 200, - 125, lol that just doesn't excite me. It's more of an "I guess I can live with this for now," but it's something I'll be bored with by next year, if not a month after getting the game. Don't they want to create a system that can be a mainstay for years to come, not something they have to redo every single year?

I want the dev team to be just as tired implementing a different but-not-all-that-different recruiting feature every single year as I feel the community is.

I also have my reserved thoughts on the coach skills. But I will say I am very skeptical about how they will work.

Guess I should also say I'm still disappointing recruiting classes aren't editable and shareable online. While the complaints I have about recruiting would remain, at least editable and shareable classes would open up the possibility of real life classes and me creating my own storylines and such with classes. It would be awesome going into the OS NCAA roster forum, finding a fictional recruiting class file, then editing it for a few hours down to my liking. I do that with NBA 2K and it keeps me playing long associations with true-to-life personality.

Rant over. Sorry so long.

[Big FN Deal]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

@DorianDonP, great post man, I really feel you. It's like the people currently making the game, don't have a vision for realism and can't see past it being "just a video game". I hope that changes for EA football games on the new consoles.

[JerseySuave4]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

I agree Dorian, whats stopping this recruiting from becoming repetitive? You're just assigning points instead of making calls. I guess the good thing is once you're bored you can just keep the points the same without having to change something but I just don't see how this makes recruiting more fun or exciting. To me it's just substituting points for hours.

[Colt45]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

Not only will it be faster because you can leave everything the same week-to-week, but you can go in and assign points all at once instead of calling player a, picking 40 minutes, picking the first topic, picking to compare against school b, getting the result, moving on to the second topic, etc, etc, etc. I bet you can have your entire week of recruiting in the time it has taken to do just one call in the past.

[JerseySuave4]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

Not only will it be faster because you can leave everything the same week-to-week, but you can go in and assign points all at once instead of calling player a, picking 40 minutes, picking the first topic, picking to compare against school b, getting the result, moving on to the second topic, etc, etc, etc. I bet you can have your entire week of recruiting in the time it has taken to do just one call in the past.

They did have a quick call feature which essentially did the phone call for you. That's why I don't get the whole, recruiting was slow last year argument. I didn't find it slow even when calling players. I just found the menus slow which made everything take longer.

I'm fine with them changing recruiting if they had made other major improvements to dynasty but they didn't. That's the thing that is bothering me the most.

[Colt45]

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Quick call never gave you the appropriate results, though. That thing was worthless.

[dennis580]

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I was never big into recruiting personally but revamping the system to make it more accessible seems strange.. I mean I really think this mode is in need of some depth and more substance imo.

I VERY STRONGLY DISAGREE. Forget depth, and substance. I don't want something that is boring, and tedious, and drags on forever like the garbage recruiting they have had this generation. Heck the last NCAA game I played(NCAA 12) I didn't even bother with the recruiting because I knew it would be a tedious, boring, cluttered mess so i just let the computer do the recruiting for me.

Streamlining, and simplefying the recruiting process is certainly a step in the right direction, but they need to go far further, and give us the option to just recruit during the offseason. That way we can spend more time actually playing games.

IF I buy NCAA 14 I will certainly give the new recruiting system a shot unlike NCAA 12 which I knew would be a tedious, boring, cluttered mess that wouldn't even be worth trying.

[clevenger77]

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Still nothing elase on EA's site. They are such a joke. Can we please get a football game from 2K sports or the team that makes MLB The Show. Anyone but EA

[speedy43]

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Still nothing elase on EA's site. They are such a joke.

I was thinking the same thing. I thought they were supposed to release their Dynasty Playbook yesterday? I guess all the other media outlets covered everything they were going to say. I'm guessing if they finally get around to putting something out, there won't be anything we haven't heard already from the other guys.