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  • Strategizer
    Rookie
    • Jan 2013
    • 234

    #256
    Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode

    Originally posted by Robcards
    I never said I wasn't going to 'give it a chance' I said that its absolutely absurd to tout it as 'new'. It's the same system as before except you allocate points instead of minutes. It's boring and needs to be legitimately revamped, not just changing wording around to make it look like you did work.
    So you're upset about the semantics only? I'm pretty sure you expressed dissatisfaction at losing the phone call setup in another thread, so it's more than EA's labeling of it. And there is more to it than the point system. Things like deal breakers and coach recruiting skills are small but important inclusions.

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    • Robcards
      Rookie
      • Aug 2011
      • 2

      #257
      Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode

      Originally posted by Strategizer
      So you're upset about the semantics only? I'm pretty sure you expressed dissatisfaction at losing the phone call setup in another thread, so it's more than EA's labeling of it. And there is more to it than the point system. Things like deal breakers and coach recruiting skills are small but important inclusions.
      Find that quote because I certainly made no such statement regarding losing phone calls. I am very disappointed that 'all new dynasty' and 'completely revamped recruiting' was being built up only to get this nonsense which didnt change much at all. Adding scouting to recruiting last year was a bigger change than all of this combined. This is a joke.

      And don't get me started on the coach perks like an rpg game that are completely wacky and if I played the game I would turn off if I had the option to. That is an awful addition.

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      • TheBleedingRed21
        Game Dev
        • Oct 2010
        • 5071

        #258
        Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode

        Robcards, I have seen quite a few more excited about the change to recruiting than complaining. Posting every other post is not a way to win arguments around here. Go listen to the podcast, there was a lot more done to recruiting then your continuous ranting argues.
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        • Buckeye1
          Banned
          • May 2013
          • 12

          #259
          Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

          I just want 11 on 11 football. This 7 on 7 crap is getting boring. I want an offensive line and a defensive line to actually matter. I want that beast DT that is utterly disruptive and makes teams have to gameplan for. Or that LT that safely seals an edge of the o-line.

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          • Strategizer
            Rookie
            • Jan 2013
            • 234

            #260
            Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode

            Originally posted by Robcards
            Find that quote because I certainly made no such statement regarding losing phone calls. I am very disappointed that 'all new dynasty' and 'completely revamped recruiting' was being built up only to get this nonsense which didnt change much at all. Adding scouting to recruiting last year was a bigger change than all of this combined. This is a joke.

            And don't get me started on the coach perks like an rpg game that are completely wacky and if I played the game I would turn off if I had the option to. That is an awful addition.
            Yes I confused a conversation I had with you about coach xp with one I had about recruiting with someone else. I think both things are great additions and changes, so I don't care how EA phrases it. There are some things I wish were added, but their absence isn't game breaking to me. Then again I tend not to pin my hopes on marketing speak.

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            • moylan1234
              MVP
              • Jul 2004
              • 3946

              #261
              Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

              Teambuilder has seen upgrades since it first came out I just wanted to point that out. As many upgrades as we'd all like? no, but upgrades nonetheless and I don't think its fair to rip them about TB anyway because upgrades or no upgrades it's still the best create a team option we have in any sports game and quite frankly it's not even close.

              I had no problem with recruiting in the past, but I'm willing to give this "new" system or whatever a chance. either way the most important thing is how the game plays football to me.

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              • Robcards
                Rookie
                • Aug 2011
                • 2

                #262
                Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode

                Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                Robcards, I have seen quite a few more excited about the change to recruiting than complaining. Posting every other post is not a way to win arguments around here. Go listen to the podcast, there was a lot more done to recruiting then your continuous ranting argues.
                I did listen to the podcast, I didn't hear anything jaw dropping. Some 4 or 5 star guys won't commit until offseason, having 2 qbs visit at the same time is bad, and there will be decommits. As far as the actual recruiting is concerned, this is far from a 'new' system. And if my posts convince even 1 person not to buy this game then I have won.

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                • patteca
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 11

                  #263
                  Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

                  Is there any detail on the coordinator-to-head coach transition re: coach skills? If you build up a level 21 DC and then take a HC job, do you start over as a lvl 0/1 HC with 0 coach skills? Would you instead start as a level 21 HC and reallocate those points? Is your coordinator coach level retained if you transition back to coordinator?

                  How do a head coach's coordinators level up? Does a head coach assign one point each level to either ingame/recruiting "trees" and one point to either his OC/DC's "trees"? Can your coordinators take other jobs and leave you to hire a new replacement?

                  Coach skills seem promising for providing game mechanic representation for the narratives many dynasty players already imagine to some degree, but I hadn't seen any details on many of the above subtleties of the system. It could also be unbalanced or gimmicky, of course, but fingers crossed that's not the case. I've read a few previews and several pages of this thread, but apologies if the above has been answered already and I missed it.

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                  • JerseySuave4
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 5152

                    #264
                    Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

                    Originally posted by moylan
                    Teambuilder has seen upgrades since it first came out I just wanted to point that out. As many upgrades as we'd all like? no, but upgrades nonetheless and I don't think its fair to rip them about TB anyway because upgrades or no upgrades it's still the best create a team option we have in any sports game and quite frankly it's not even close.

                    I had no problem with recruiting in the past, but I'm willing to give this "new" system or whatever a chance. either way the most important thing is how the game plays football to me.
                    Only upgrade Teambuilder has seen was they added a text box for jersey names across the chest (which they still only limit to 3 fonts), they added a couple of high school stadiums, updated the real school's uniforms, and changed the background from green to blue. That's about it.

                    And we're not ripping them for Teambuilder, just the fact that they created this innovative and great addition and then never expanded on it. There is so much potential with the fact that they have a web based team editor site and it has gotten no love.

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                    • PVarck31
                      Moderator
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16869

                      #265
                      Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode

                      Originally posted by Robcards
                      I did listen to the podcast, I didn't hear anything jaw dropping. Some 4 or 5 star guys won't commit until offseason, having 2 qbs visit at the same time is bad, and there will be decommits. As far as the actual recruiting is concerned, this is far from a 'new' system. And if my posts convince even 1 person not to buy this game then I have won.
                      You are not gonna hang around in this thread just to convince others not to buy the game. That's pretty much trolling.

                      If you aren't buying the game, and you don't have anything constructive to say about what would make you buy it then please do not continue to post in here, especially if your intention is to get other people not to buy the game.

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                      • moylan1234
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 3946

                        #266
                        Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

                        Jersey, either you're doing this on purpose or you just don't use the feature, but that is far from the only thing they added. The text box was a huge addition, but they've also added team colors on uniform equipment and in generic stadiums, custom music for TB schools, uploading logos has been tweeked making it easier to upload clean images along with an option for the website to be able remove the background on your logo which is huge for some people, it's also faster to update your teams from the console and they've continued to add to their audio database for team nick names.

                        those are just off the top of my head and I know there's things I'm forgetting.

                        And again if they already have the best of something why should they feel the need to make any major upgrades to it? there's plenty to rip this series about Teambuilder is not it.

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                        • ranman1982
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 215

                          #267
                          Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

                          OH MY GOD MORE SCREENSHOTS! *sarcasm*

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                          • Ziza9Noles94
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1416

                            #268
                            Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

                            Originally posted by moylan
                            Jersey, either you're doing this on purpose or you just don't use the feature, but that is far from the only thing they added. The text box was a huge addition, but they've also added team colors on uniform equipment and in generic stadiums, custom music for TB schools, uploading logos has been tweeked making it easier to upload clean images along with an option for the website to be able remove the background on your logo which is huge for some people, it's also faster to update your teams from the console and they've continued to add to their audio database for team nick names.

                            those are just off the top of my head and I know there's things I'm forgetting.

                            And again if they already have the best of something why should they feel the need to make any major upgrades to it? there's plenty to rip this series about Teambuilder is not it.
                            It could be that he is just frustrated that things that comprise the Teambuilder 2.0 list continue to be absent from TB and many things found on various TB wishlists here and elsewhere continue to be left out. They did indeed add everything you said. But I see those more as fixes than significant upgrades and add ons. Still love and will use TB, but I scratch my head that I can download over 100's of teams, but still only add 12 into dynasty. And this is coming from someone, me, who is excited to play 14.
                            I bleed Garnet and Gold. In The 'Slim Reaper' We Trust. Go Noles!

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                            • JerseySuave4
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 5152

                              #269
                              Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

                              Originally posted by moylan
                              Jersey, either you're doing this on purpose or you just don't use the feature, but that is far from the only thing they added. The text box was a huge addition, but they've also added team colors on uniform equipment and in generic stadiums, custom music for TB schools, uploading logos has been tweeked making it easier to upload clean images along with an option for the website to be able remove the background on your logo which is huge for some people, it's also faster to update your teams from the console and they've continued to add to their audio database for team nick names.

                              those are just off the top of my head and I know there's things I'm forgetting.

                              And again if they already have the best of something why should they feel the need to make any major upgrades to it? there's plenty to rip this series about Teambuilder is not it.
                              I'm talking about the teambuilder website not the fact that they've added teambuilder school colors to equipment (if you want to point that out i'll point out how they still only get white or black cleats). Funny you mention Custom Stadium Sounds because that's another feature that never got much of an upgrade. And in typical EA fashion, custom stadium sounds only worked properly if you didn't have over a certain number of files on your hard drive. If you use sounds for other games and had more than 200 (i forget the specific number) files on your PS3, the songs didn't show up when selecting them, they'd be blacked out or would repeat.

                              The rest of the stuff you mentioned is very minor so again, Teambuilder has hardly been touched since it was created. Those things you mentioned were more like fixes or things that should have been there originally that they added because they realized they forgot them, such as having a text box on the jerseys (we still only have the same 3 fonts), taking away background images on logos. They still have no new jersey styles, no new pants styles, sock styles, helmet styles, endzone designs, no getting to choose which shoe company your team has, limiting us to 1 alt away & 1 alt home uni so if you recreate Oregon you lose a ton of their uniforms, and I can go on and on. Just go look at the Teambuilder wishlists... majority of them haven't changed 1 bit since Teambuilder arrived.

                              Again, i'm not ripping them for Teambuilder. I'm pointing out the fact that they've hardly done anything to keep it relevant. I was the biggest fan of Teambuilder when it first came out. I spent hours on that thing. I have about 50 different teams created. I was more than excited when we got it. And i've been equally disappointed to see the lack of attention it's gotten over the years. I can't stand the fact that Teambuilder teams get basic white or black cleats. It bothers me because it ruins the look of the team you spent so much time creating. Yes i'm one of those people that notice equipment, I notice cleats, so when they don't give our Teambuilder teams the same options as other teams in terms of cleat colors, it completely ruined the look of my teams, made them look generic and made me not want to play as those teams.

                              I've never ripped them for adding Teambuilder, i'm saying they have given it minimal attention at best since they've included it.

                              PS. To piggyback what was said above me, I created about 30 different High Schools from my state/area from back when I was in High School. Spent more hours than I can count in Paint.net getting the logos perfect, spent hours looking through old programs and newspaper clippings from when I played to get some of the guys I remember on each team. I was so excited the year they offered bonus Teambuilder slots for preordering the game because it meant i'd be able to add all these teams only to find out we were still limited to just 12. I was so disappointed.
                              Last edited by JerseySuave4; 05-29-2013, 05:57 PM.

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                              • moylan1234
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 3946

                                #270
                                Re: NCAA Football 14 Trailer - Dynasty Mode, 52 Screenshots Added

                                Agree Ziza the 12 number sticks in my craw as well I just don't think its fair to say no updates when the feature still pawns anything 2k or Sony has come up with

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