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  • willithome
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    • Mar 2003
    • 186

    #91
    Yeah I have felt we heard a lot of this before. Last year they were saying how GREAT of a NFL presentation experience we were gonna have and it was still pretty awful. I am sure they added a few things but I will have to see it to believe how great it's gonna be. I am very skeptical.

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    • Big FN Deal
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      • Aug 2011
      • 5993

      #92
      Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

      Originally posted by willithome
      Yeah I have felt we heard a lot of this before. Last year they were saying how GREAT of a NFL presentation experience we were gonna have and it was still pretty awful. I am sure they added a few things but I will have to see it to believe how great it's gonna be. I am very skeptical.
      Exactly, the only way it's not considered awful is if you couldn't care less about presentation or you are just comparing it to other Maddens. However, in some regards, M13 had some presentation elements that were inferior to other next-gen Maddens, considering M10 at least allegedly laid a foundation for a league wrap up show with the Extra Point.

      People can label me and my rants however they want but no way I can laud presentation in Madden with things like NCAA football having a Bottomline ticker tied to Dynasty mode, that for some odd reason they choose to leave out of Madden CFM. They are constantly wasting resources on other mess instead of just placing their focus on copying the NFL. This same Mr Young is on record saying gamers don't want Tiburon's version of broadcasting one year, then touting they have replay angles unique to the video game the next year. I have stated in the past, I don't know why they would bring in NFL Films to do anything broadcast related, I thought they put together the "behind the scenes" stuff, not live broadcasts. Now apparently, they have gone back to the realistic replay angles from M12, that were modeled after CBS which is a good thing but again, another example of wasting resources on something that shouldn't have been "funned" up in the first place.

      I really hope this entire gen for Madden is used as a cautionary tale around Tiburon for how NOT to do things on the new consoles. Either way Madden defenders won't have Big FN Deal to kick around anymore because I'll either be too busy playing M25 on the new consoles to post much or renewing my interest in NBA basketball video games until other studios are hopefully allowed to make NFL games again.

      @JPDavis;

      Originally posted by jpdavis82
      For current gen people's expectations have been too high based on what the devs were being told to do by the execs. That issue seems to be at least for m25, a thing of the past. I'm trying not to overly praise the game, just wish the OS crowd would be a little less pessimistic about a game they have yet to play. We shouldn't overly praise or criticize the game until we have some time hands on with it, is my point. Some people won't like it and some will, just have to play it to find that out.
      Originally posted by jpdavis82
      Not a chance, people are drastically underestimating how good madden 25 is going to be.

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      • infemous
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        • Nov 2009
        • 1568

        #93
        Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

        Originally posted by daniel77733
        Exactly. At times, I had to run out of bounds or let the CPU tackle me so my defensive guy wouldnt win player of the game.

        And what's your favorite team?
        Yeah I've done that a couple of times, I only house it with 'a playmaker' like a roaming FS or Janoris Jenkins. If a DT picks up a fumble and can run with it I will dive at the one or nip out of bounds.

        I'm a Rams fan. Its more of a rivalry for us, I think 49er fans have more of an issue with the Seahawks lol but the balance is shifting and we're getting more respect. I hate both the 9ers and the Seahawks tho lol Cardinals are ok..
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        • jbd345
          MVP
          • Apr 2011
          • 2435

          #94
          Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

          If you look back at Madden '05 on last gen, the game pretty much looked and stayed the same since current gen consoles came out. Honestly how long do you think it will be for next gen before they stop supporting this gen, maybe three or five years at the most? At that point your just paying $65 for a roster update. If history repeats itself I think this year will be the last we see anything "new" added to the game, and after that everything will just be a port with the only difference being rosters, schedules etc... Next week will be interesting.
          Last edited by jbd345; 06-03-2013, 11:02 AM.

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          • SageInfinite
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            • Jul 2002
            • 11896

            #95
            Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

            So it's been confirmed that Kolbe is the main man for next gen?
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            • LorenzoDC
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              • Sep 2010
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              #96
              Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

              Originally posted by ch46647
              It should be glaringly obvious to everyone that EA has drastically shifted focus to next-gen development. Whether that come to fruition or not, Madden 25 on PS3/XBOX 360 has gotten very minimal upgrades. Also, the hype train that EA typically gets going for Madden/NCAA is literally non-existent this year.

              Bring on Next-Gen, and June 10th cant get here fast enough.
              I've been beginning to suspect this, but I'm not as sure as you. But they have needed to do a lot of prep for nextgen. They did double the size of the dev team when this new crew came in, and they must have done it to prepare for nextgen.

              From a business point of view, any innovative stuff they do on current gen is lost if they can't scale it to nextgen. Anything new they do has to be forward compatible and scalable to Ignite, a big investment they made for not just football but other sports games. The database structure for Ignite is probably quite different from current gen, so I think the overall strategy is this:

              1. Put out a credible, meaningful improvement on current gen to improve over last year's game. Run Free seems like small ball to me but they clearly wanted it to be better received than it was when announced.
              2. Don't go overboard marketing next gen too early because it could dampen sales in August for current gen. Tease enough next gen at e3 to get people curious but don't let the current gen people think that making a current gen purchase will be a waste or just a roster update.
              3. Maximize sales in August/September in current gen.
              4. After that, pivot to talking about deeper improvements and at least one more major feature/improvement for next gen, to entice people to make the investment in the next gen hardware for the holiday season. Next gen technology will really need/want a few popular brand games to help boost holiday hardware sales and probably Madden figures highly in that mix. Expect joint promotions from EA with Sony and Microsoft come Thanksgiving.

              The Madden team has the unique situation this year of putting out two new but related products in one year. They can't do both to the ultimate level but their future will ride on next gen M25, no on current gen's last release. So I would expect them to tease but hide some info about next gen until the first month of current gen sales are done.

              Hopefully the hardware will be reliable when it first comes out. I'm always suspicious of Microsoft especially when it rolls out any new operating system or device (the Surface tablet has been a bad release for a lot of reasons).

              I'm taking a very wait and see approach this year.
              Last edited by LorenzoDC; 06-03-2013, 12:21 PM.

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              • Big FN Deal
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                • Aug 2011
                • 5993

                #97
                Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

                Originally posted by SageInfinite
                So it's been confirmed that Kolbe is the main man for next gen?
                Yeah, it's written over his OS avatar, "CD for G4 Madden".

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                • jpdavis82
                  All Star
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 8788

                  #98
                  Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

                  Originally posted by ch46647
                  It should be glaringly obvious to everyone that EA has drastically shifted focus to next-gen development. Whether that come to fruition or not, Madden 25 on PS3/XBOX 360 has gotten very minimal upgrades. Also, the hype train that EA typically gets going for Madden/NCAA is literally non-existent this year.

                  Bring on Next-Gen, and June 10th cant get here fast enough.
                  Very minimal upgrades?

                  Improved physics, run free,footplanting, contextual awareness on both offense and defense, improved pursuit angles, improved hitstick, a complete overhaul in the running game, improved blocking technique and logic, improved o/d line interactions, improved commentary, owner mode, a sideline reporter, added Adam Schefter for draft storylines, live recordings of stadium sounds, Madden Share, All-25 Team, gave everyone back fantasy draft on and offline, 32 team control, import draft class, there's more too, so do you want me to go on or have I proven my point yet???????

                  This is the MOST improvement in one year on the 360/PS3 and you call it minimal lol. Unbelievable, I'm looking forward to how everyone will be talking about Madden 25 current gen once they see the gameplay videos next week. Most people definitely won't be talking about how they shifted focus to next gen after that.
                  Last edited by jpdavis82; 06-03-2013, 12:24 PM.

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                  • SageInfinite
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 11896

                    #99
                    Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

                    Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                    Yeah, it's written over his OS avatar, "CD for G4 Madden".
                    Nice. Maybe, just maybe this will be like when MLB The Show replaced the 989 MLB series. Maybe that's why they went with Madden 25 this year. Maybe it will take on a new moniker after this year(doubt it but who knows). The Show did launch on PS2, but imo it was really a game that was built for PS3, and we've seen how it has excelled on the system. Maybe that's what they're trying to do with this next gen Madden. Really spin the direction of this series around. We'll know next week
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                    • SageInfinite
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                      #100
                      Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

                      Originally posted by jpdavis82
                      Very minimal upgrades?

                      Improved physics, run free,footplanting, contextual awareness on both offense and defense, improved pursuit angles, improved hitstick, a complete overhaul in the running game, improved blocking technique and logic, improved o/d line interactions, improved commentary, owner mode, a sideline reporter, added Adam Schefter for draft storylines, live recordings of stadium sounds, Madden Share, All-25 Team, gave everyone back fantasy draft on and offline, 32 team control, import draft class, there's more too, so do you want me to go on or have I proven my point yet???????

                      This is the MOST improvement in one year on the 360/PS3 and you call it minimal lol. Unbelievable, I'm looking forward to how everyone will be talking about Madden 25 current gen once they see the gameplay videos next week. Most people definitely won't be talking about how they shifted focus to next gen after that.
                      I still think Madden 10 was the biggest turn around the game has seen on this generation. They've definitely worked on the game alot(we'll see how well these things actually look and play), but Madden 09 and Madden 10 is like night and day imo. I don't see the difference being that drastic between Madden 13 and Madden 25(lol@the number difference though). I see it being a much better game than 13(hopefully), but I don't see it being this drastic leap, especially with next gen right around the corner.
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                      • jpdavis82
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                        • Sep 2005
                        • 8788

                        #101
                        Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

                        Originally posted by SageInfinite
                        I still think Madden 10 was the biggest turn around the game has seen on this generation. They've definitely worked on the game alot(we'll see how well these things actually look and play), but Madden 09 and Madden 10 is like night and day imo. I don't see the difference being that drastic between Madden 13 and Madden 25(lol@the number difference though). I see it being a much better game than 13(hopefully), but I don't see it being this drastic leap, especially with next gen right around the corner.
                        Madden 12 to 13 was the biggest leap IMO, but that's probably because I have played more Madden 13 than any other Madden this gen and am still playing Madden 13. I know everyone is excited about Kolbe for next gen but to be fair he is also a CD for Madden 25 current gen. We can't credit one and discredit the other.

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                        • daniel77733
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                          • Nov 2011
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                          #102
                          Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

                          Originally posted by infemous
                          Yeah I've done that a couple of times, I only house it with 'a playmaker' like a roaming FS or Janoris Jenkins. If a DT picks up a fumble and can run with it I will dive at the one or nip out of bounds.

                          I'm a Rams fan. Its more of a rivalry for us, I think 49er fans have more of an issue with the Seahawks lol but the balance is shifting and we're getting more respect. I hate both the 9ers and the Seahawks tho lol Cardinals are ok..
                          Hopefully, that return TD glitch is fixed in M25.

                          As a 49ers fan, the Seahawks are definitely our top rival at this point in time because they're a constant pain in the *** and talent/depth wise, right behind the Niners. Rams are third and have an excellent front seven defense and two excellent cornerbacks but they let both of their starting safeties to leave and thats a huge negative in my opinion. Unless the young guys step up, the safeties could get picked on a lot.

                          Offensively, your OL should be better with the addition of Long and Safford moving to RT. Didnt agree with letting Jackson leave as honestly, he was one of the few players on the Rams I actually liked. I understand the move but still believe that his veteran leadership and experience is something that the offense needs. In the end, its all about Bradford and how he plays this year. Rams added more weapons for him through the draft even though they are rookies. I think that TE Jared Cook will be Bradford's blanket guy.

                          Despite going 0-1-1 against the Rams, im not really concerned with them at all because in SF, the tie only happened because Akers missed the damn FG and the loss was because of stupid play calling. I can honestly say that my main concern with my 49ers is the play calling and has been that way since Harbaugh, Roman and Fangio arrived in 2011. They get too cute with the gadget plays which I hate. They rarely if ever work and quite honestly, any play thats designed to be set up several yards behind the LOS should be scrapped from the playbook. That pitch out to Ginn was one of the stupidest play calls I have ever seen and thats saying something.

                          Anyway, I do think the games against the Rams will be tough but it all comes down to the Rams offense and if they can score points. The one thing im a lot happier about this year compared to last year is who my starting QB is. Smith was solid but Kaepernick's arm strength/accuracy and playmaking ability makes him a threat on any given play which defenses have to game plan for. With Smith, no defense was game planning for him. I do believe that Kaepernick will be more of a pocket passer out of the option than a runner unless the defense plays like the Packers defense in the divisional playoff game. I think that the team will use the option more as a decoy this year than anything else because they know defenses are going to game plan around trying to stop/contain it.

                          Should be a fun season though.

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                          • jbd345
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                            • Apr 2011
                            • 2435

                            #103
                            Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

                            Originally posted by jpdavis82
                            Very minimal upgrades?

                            Improved physics, run free,footplanting, contextual awareness on both offense and defense, improved pursuit angles, improved hitstick, a complete overhaul in the running game, improved blocking technique and logic, improved o/d line interactions, improved commentary, owner mode, a sideline reporter, added Adam Schefter for draft storylines, live recordings of stadium sounds, Madden Share, All-25 Team, gave everyone back fantasy draft on and offline, 32 team control, import draft class, there's more too, so do you want me to go on or have I proven my point yet???????

                            This is the MOST improvement in one year on the 360/PS3 and you call it minimal lol. Unbelievable, I'm looking forward to how everyone will be talking about Madden 25 current gen once they see the gameplay videos next week. Most people definitely won't be talking about how they shifted focus to next gen after that.
                            So we can't be skeptical?? Also how do you know we will all be talking about 25 this gen come e3, have you seen something we haven't? If not you might want to separate your own opinion from fact...just saying.

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                            • videogamelover
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                              • Jun 2013
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                              #104
                              Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

                              O: Madden 25 looks epic, looks like EA is ending the current gen with a bang.

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                              • jpdavis82
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                                • Sep 2005
                                • 8788

                                #105
                                Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

                                Originally posted by jbd345
                                So we can't be skeptical?? Also how do you know we will all be talking about 25 this gen come e3, have you seen something we haven't? If not you might want to separate your own opinion from fact...just saying.
                                I've talked to some very reliable people who have had hands on time with M25 and based on what they said, I expect the community to be happy/surprised. The hunch back running is the biggest issue that I don't expect to be corrected completely based on what I've heard. Aside from that I think people will like what they see.

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