Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Revealed)

**The_Balm** · 06-03-2013, 05:31 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by jmurphy31

Yes I understand they are two different things. But if they are leaving that much disc soace free, they are under utilizing disc space.

You can play that Madden has this and NBA 2k has this all day. For example, NBA 2k has player movement that mimics real life players (madden has QB throwing Animations somewhere in there --most times they dont trigger), NBA 2k has more realistic benches and crowds, more dialogue, sweat on their faces, etc.

Both companies have allocated reesources to where they see fit. I am just saying it looks like EA doesn't utilize all of its disc space. COuld EA use that space for more commentary, more cut scenes, more banners, or other presentation elements sure. Could they use it to add more running animations, catch animations, etc - I am not a programmer, but I am guessing yes.

As Rgiles said (probably the best argument) Disc Space or RAM have nothing to do with the bugs in the game. Whether it be gameplay, CPU AI, presentation, commentary, etc.

I mean in no disrespect to you JP. I am gald your optimistic about Madden. I am too every year. I buy it, I play it most of the year (Dont play much during the winter--I am pretty busy then)

I just accept it is what it is and I accept it. To me its a video game. I see its negatives, but I enjoy playing football. Heck I still play Tecmo Super Bowl and I am pretty sure the foot planting, cut scenes, oL interaction is awful...But the game is all sorts of fun

First let me start with, yes they could do a lot better, bugs, legacy issues, swapping features in and out, missing obvious things, etc. BUT they have gotten better, Infinity engine, ball trajectories, no-look interceptions, it looks like better locomotion and running game this year, etc.

On the RAM and disk space thing. One of the things that uses up disk space is textures, and they need to be loaded into RAM. 2K can have more disk space used up with better looking textures because they don't have as many players and big of a stadium to texture all at once, therefore using less RAM.

For example if you had an ounce of gold to plate stuff with, you could make a few things look spectacular or a lot of things look very good.

If they had a better codebase/engine maybe they would have more efficient code that uses less RAM and therefore have higher resolution textures (for example) on the disk, using more space, but just filling the disk doesn't make the game better!

**kehlis** · 06-03-2013, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by jpdavis82

Can you stop taking every one of my quotes and using them against me please? Thank you

I don't think you understand how forums work.

If you don't want someone to respond to your post, don't post it.

**jpdavis82** · 06-03-2013, 05:36 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by RGiles36

Man, you put yourself out there to be responded to. And then when folks here don't agree with you, you mass tweet other GC'ers like the community is out of their minds.

I respect your optimism each year JP -- but on the other hand, you don't seem to respect pessimism to the same level. You'd like for everyone to be excited just as you are, but many of us didn't enjoy M13 to the degree you did. How could we share in your level of excitement?

The answer is we can't -- many of us were burned last year and want to SEE the improvement first. What's wrong with that?

That's fair enough but sometimes I feel like I'm trying to defend Lebron and I'm in Cleveland lol.

**N51_rob** · 06-03-2013, 05:42 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by jpdavis82

That's fair enough but sometimes I feel like I'm trying to defend Lebron and I'm in Cleveland lol.

Ehhh, People didn't like Lebron because he left for another team, not because he over promised and under delivered.

**Kaiser Wilhelm** · 06-03-2013, 05:43 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by jpdavis82

That's fair enough but sometimes I feel like I'm trying to defend Lebron and I'm in Cleveland lol.

Defending Lebron in Cleveland is probably easier than defending EA Tiburon on OperationSports.

**jpdavis82** · 06-03-2013, 05:44 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by KANE699

Was in Madden 11, and for that matter I am pretty sure it was in 12 too.

I'm going to have to test that out, I never remember seeing that, especially on the defensive side of the ball, where a lb would put his hand on a d lineman to get around them.

**KANE699** · 06-03-2013, 05:48 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by jpdavis82

I'm going to have to test that out, I never remember seeing that, especially on the defensive side of the ball, where a lb would put his hand on a d lineman to get around them.

It was only for ball carriers.

**The_Balm** · 06-03-2013, 05:53 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by californ14

Also, the ball carrier avoidance move to sort of jump or step back as someone is coming from the side, I believe as a runner you could do that in M12 or maybe M10 or 11; you just had to pull down on the right analog stick..Didn't seem to work well as far as I can recall....

You are right it did not work well at all. But I sometimes find myself trying to do it in Madden 13, I suppose even if it was in 13, I wouldn't get a broken tackle, I don't think I ever got it to work.

**Kramer5150** · 06-03-2013, 05:59 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by jpdavis82

Can you stop taking every one of my quotes and using them against me please? Thank you

Dude....you do the same thing when anybody posts anything "pessimistic" towards Madden,so what's the difference?

Like they say...."if you can't stand the heat,get out of the kitchen".

**jpdavis82** · 06-03-2013, 06:00 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by KANE699

It was only for ball carriers.

I tried it and the ball carrier just runs around, it seems like without physics you can't really run into your teammates so idk why bca would even be in there.

**therizing02** · 06-03-2013, 06:02 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by simon48xbox

First let me start with, yes they could do a lot better, bugs, legacy issues, swapping features in and out, missing obvious things, etc. BUT they have gotten better, Infinity engine, ball trajectories, no-look interceptions, it looks like better locomotion and running game this year, etc.

And this is what is so irritating to me. You are spot on that they have made drastic improvements in a lot of areas, but drastic improvements in certain areas while other areas of the game regress is beyond mind boggling.

**jpdavis82** · 06-03-2013, 06:56 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Going back to 12 to check on contextual awareness, the lack of quality audio and physics really stand out. The crowd and tackle audio in madden 13 is so much better and the physics give the players a sense of weight that 12 doesn't have. The tackling sounds so weak compared to 13.The replays in 12 were better but that's the only thing I think was better in m12. If the physics in m25 are much improved, then I'm really excited to play m25.

**BenGerman** · 06-03-2013, 07:04 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

I'm excited for Next-Gen, even if it's just so we don't have to hear the disc-space/memory argument anymore. Whether it's true or not, that will be a thing of the past.

**KANE699** · 06-03-2013, 07:37 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by jpdavis82

Going back to 12 to check on contextual awareness, the lack of quality audio and physics really stand out. The crowd and tackle audio in madden 13 is so much better and the physics give the players a sense of weight that 12 doesn't have. The tackling sounds so weak compared to 13.The replays in 12 were better but that's the only thing I think was better in m12. If the physics in m25 are much improved, then I'm really excited to play m25.

The ballcarrier will put his hand on a lineman so that he isn't just running in place behind him aka Mario running and then go around him, its pretty realistic and I wanna say you saw it first in Madden 10 with the addition of pro tak.

**The_Balm** · 06-03-2013, 08:53 PM

Re: Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Reveale

Originally posted by jpdavis82

Going back to 12 to check on contextual awareness, the lack of quality audio and physics really stand out. The crowd and tackle audio in madden 13 is so much better and the physics give the players a sense of weight that 12 doesn't have. The tackling sounds so weak compared to 13.The replays in 12 were better but that's the only thing I think was better in m12. If the physics in m25 are much improved, then I'm really excited to play m25.

I agree, 13 is my favorite current gen Madden. When I go back and play old current gen Maddens I like 10 the best. Having Pro Tak is cool and I like the speed of the game a lot.

Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Revealed)

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