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  • Segagendude
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 7940

    #16
    Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

    Originally posted by soxnut1018
    This worries me.
    Why's that?

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    • gopher_guy
      The Kaptain
      • Jul 2011
      • 7389

      #17
      Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

      Fighting is definitely not what they should be focusing on, IMO.

      HOWEVER, that said: it looks awesome. The players in that video seem to behave very realistically, and finally other players actually stay on the ice and react to what's happening. I like that fights can (seemingly) happen organically based on something that happens on the ice. Instead of the super lame "Oh, I think I'll start a fight now."

      Hopefully they can add a bit of depth to the game with this for us offline players. It would be cool if they could implement this engine in the GM mode, to have players "remember" things that happen in the season.

      For example, if I injure a CPU team's player on a check from behind, I'd love it if that team's enforcer would remember that and pick a fight with me the next time we play them. It would just reduce that feeling that playing a season in BeAGM is not just 82 completely separate and isolated games in a row.
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      • canucksss
        MVP
        • Jan 2003
        • 2956

        #18
        Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

        I agree with gopher guy...this new feature is great. Finally after several years EA was able to correct the missing players, both on ice and in bench, during the scrum.

        BUT I want to see more improvements namely: PRESENTATION and GAMEPLAY.

        If this is the only significant change in 14, still not buying. My worry is that even in OFFLINE BaGM, I might see multiple fights per game.

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        • jsquigg
          MVP
          • Nov 2003
          • 1167

          #19
          Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

          While fighting is improved, it isn't as big a part of hockey as it ever was before. A clean hit in the middle of the ice is way more likely to lead to a scrum. This shouldn't be a back of the box feature, it should have been a subtle improvement. I have no doubt it will be a random, game to game thing that happens too often and in situations where it wouldn't happen in real life. I will gladly be proven wrong.
          This is just another reason why I enjoy 09 the best. It isn't more realistic if the realistic elements added aren't implemented right. 90 times out of 100 it's a scrum that happens, not a one on one fight like it used to.

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          • BigD
            Pro
            • Aug 2002
            • 900

            #20
            I need this. NOW!

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            • GlennN
              MVP
              • Oct 2003
              • 1929

              #21
              Looks good! The fighting engine was definitely due for an overhaul.

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              • giantsharks
                Rookie
                • Aug 2011
                • 320

                #22
                Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

                This looks great, but like most of you i hope its not over done. Hopefully there will be some post whistle scrums that dont lead to fights for presentation sake. I wonder and hope if its a planned fight, like were two guys agree to go, if they take their helmets off and on more spontaneous fights they leave them on? All in all it looks pretty awesome, we will see how its executed.
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                • Dispatch
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 2339

                  #23
                  Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

                  This looks great in my opinion. The fighting engine thats in there now is atrocious. Now with this new fighting engine I'll be more inclined to put some points into my fighting in the EASHL mode.

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                  • Tonic
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 342

                    #24
                    Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

                    This looks really cool and I'm really excited about this feature! I remember back in 09 or 10 when they added after the whistle stuff, and seem to have taken it out for the most part (by shortening the time after the whistle). I thought it was a really cool idea but never implemented properly (i.e. players in the NHL don't just pair off and cross check each other back and fourth all the time). Now, it looks like it will be implemented properly! Yay!

                    I also hope that if there isn't a fighter on the ice to stand up for a teammate and I make a line change, someone coming on the will stand up for him (or at a later time). Excited to see more of this
                    "To whom much is given, much is expected" - John F. Kennedy

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                    • ch46647
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3514

                      #25
                      Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

                      In an on-line VS game, does this have to be manually triggered? Or is it still triggered by the AI?

                      Also, is it still possible to manually trigger a fight? Or is it all situation based now?

                      They did an excellent job with this.

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                      • Manziocity
                        Just started!
                        • May 2013
                        • 4

                        #26
                        Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

                        Wow, fighting now looks amazing. I just hope they get the penalty minutes right. In the video, Coburn should get 5 for fighting and 2 for instigating. And if this was under 5 minutes in the 3rd it should be 2, 5, and 10.

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                        • metovics8
                          Since '08
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 586

                          #27
                          Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

                          looks great and i'm ssure there are sliders to tune it down or up... but can we get a new scorebug? lol it annoys me for some reason
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                          • Ninjoid
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2101

                            #28
                            Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

                            Hopefully, (now that they say the AI will instigate) that for the first time since the old PS1 days we will now see fights in cpu v cpu matches.
                            Dedicated member of the CPU v CPU worldwide brethren.

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                            • lhslancers
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 3589

                              #29
                              Fighting is the least important thing to me. work on the other stuff.

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                              • canucksss
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2956

                                #30
                                Re: NHL 14 Trailer and Developer Diary - Enforcer Engine

                                Originally posted by lhslancers
                                Fighting is the least important thing to me. work on the other stuff.
                                same boat as you....but lets give credit to where its due. Finally the fighting in NHL is addressed, I mean at least the teammates and the refs are there....no "walkout" during the fights.

                                But yea....I dont know the exact percentage of how many fights occur in a season for one team. I dont want to see fights every other games or every 2 games.

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