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  • smack23011
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    • Jun 2012
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    #16
    Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

    Hmmmm how would they do Oklahoma games though? I think OU plays one or two games a year on ESPN and the their rival games usually make ABC and out side of that all Fox or pay to watch.

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    • Noble Evildoer
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      • Jun 2009
      • 717

      #17
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      I always thought it would be cool to have multiple TV networks like ESPN, FOX, CBS, etc. In fact, thinking about it, it could be a cool way to reflect the growth and power of a conference if TV contracts could be a part of dynasty mode. Rate schools based on their media markets, fan bases, and such and have the networks also have their own ratings.

      Of course, that lands somewhere into crazy town and could never happen, but it sounds fun.

      If nothing else, it would be cool to reflect the power/prestige of a program by how often they're on ABC/ESPN rather than shoved off to ESPNU.
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      • BonesKnows85
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        • Oct 2012
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        #18
        Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

        I'd like to see CBS in the game for big time SEC broadcasts. EA has dealt with CBS and included them in a game before. That "greatest presentation/most god awful gameplay" college hoops game that made College Basketball Gaming RIP.
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        • Pezell04x
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          • Apr 2010
          • 2907

          #19
          Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

          Originally posted by DorianDonP
          Has anyone ever asked the devs why these aren't included in the game for presentation?

          I'm pretty sure I know the answer. Just wondering if an answer has ever been stated on record.
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          • mrprice33
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            • Jul 2003
            • 5986

            #20
            Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

            Originally posted by DorianDonP
            Good points, though I don't know if I agree with "taking them off".

            The ESPN broadcast style is fairly ubiquitous, but there are some branding differences.

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            I think I do agree with your reasoning as to why they haven't put it in. That was what I meant in the OP when I said I think I already know. These little details may not be feature heavy enough to justify the time and resources.

            There have been small iterations of broadcast branding in past sports games, but I just always thought it would be cool if a game with a liscence used it all the way. Every week with a full schedule of ESPN, ESPN 2, ESPNU, and ABC games. You know how now in dynasty you can click on the entire nations schedule for that week, and there is a logo for national/regional broadcast games? I imagine replacing those icons with ESPN family of channel icons.

            Only the top teams get on TV and only the top games get those primetime/attractive slots while lesser games get ESPNU or noon games.

            Always thought that could tie into program prestige and such too. How many ESPN primetime games do you get in a season? How many times are you thrown on ESPNU at noon?

            In real life when you look at the ticker on the bottom of the screen, the games being played on a ESPN family channel will have the branding of that game.



            I think it just adds a layer of fresh appeal to each game that you play. Big games feel bigger. That said, as much as I'd personally enjoy it, I can still see that it's probably not a priority for the dev team when it comes to presentation since they are still trying to get one presentation style right.

            I am still wondering has it ever been asked and answered though. My assumption might not be what they actually feel.
            This is doable and something that should be in the game.

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            • MrSerendipity
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              • Jun 2013
              • 1397

              #21
              Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

              I definitely like the idea of specific branding. As a Longhorn, I'd definitely like to see the Longhorn Network in the bottom for those specific games. But I'd also be willing to sacrifice that if they'd just throw up the conferences in the corner of each ticker. With that said, I think we'll only see this on Next Gen and it will likely be years down the road. As for money, I don't think this would cost EA much. It's added advertisement for ESPN, CBS and Fox if they do it.
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              • BROman
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                • May 2003
                • 1107

                #22
                Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

                Originally posted by Equinox831
                There's no way this isn't doable. Games like FIFA 13 pull off having multiple overlays and keeping great presentation all while being chalk full with hundreds of teams and tons of features. NCAA can do it too.
                Yep, FIFA has two different sets of announcers and it works just fine, so there is no reason why NCAA can't offer the same, except the NCAA team is not near the same level as the FIFA team. Wouldn't it be cool if Brad/Kirk called the national games and two no-names called the regional game? It would definitely add to the big game feel.

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                • mercalnd
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 4263

                  #23
                  Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

                  Originally posted by BROman
                  Yep, FIFA has two different sets of announcers and it works just fine, so there is no reason why NCAA can't offer the same, except the NCAA team is not near the same level as the FIFA team.
                  FIFA also undoubtedly has a much bigger budget given that it's EA Sports' top seller by a wide margin.

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                  • Colt45
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                    • May 2011
                    • 656

                    #24
                    Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

                    If money is the only problem, EA is doing it wrong. They should go into CBS, FOX, etc, and pitch having their logos in the game as an advertisement instead of a license. You allow them into your game instead of asking their permission. If they did that, they could have almost any brand they wanted.

                    Where the money comes in (like in the ESPN deal, if there was any) comes from the exclusivity of the logos, something EA doesn't have to worry about now.

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                    • TDenverFan
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                      • Jan 2011
                      • 3457

                      #25
                      Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

                      Originally posted by Colt45
                      If money is the only problem, EA is doing it wrong. They should go into CBS, FOX, etc, and pitch having their logos in the game as an advertisement instead of a license. You allow them into your game instead of asking their permission. If they did that, they could have almost any brand they wanted.

                      Where the money comes in (like in the ESPN deal, if there was any) comes from the exclusivity of the logos, something EA doesn't have to worry about now.
                      That's what I was thinking. I bet they could even tack on a "You're watching this game live on ____ Sports Network, your #1 source for college football" at the start of each broadcast, effectively making an advertisement and increasing realism.
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                      • NinerFan1983
                        Forever Faithful
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 1348

                        #26
                        Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

                        At the very least, I wouldn't mind seeing ESPN, ABC and CBS in the game. I know they did CBS with NCAA Basketball 10, which looked awesome from a presentation standpoint.

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                        • Ziza9Noles94
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                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1416

                          #27
                          Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

                          Originally posted by Colt45
                          If money is the only problem, EA is doing it wrong. They should go into CBS, FOX, etc, and pitch having their logos in the game as an advertisement instead of a license. You allow them into your game instead of asking their permission. If they did that, they could have almost any brand they wanted.

                          Where the money comes in (like in the ESPN deal, if there was any) comes from the exclusivity of the logos, something EA doesn't have to worry about now.
                          Unfortunately, as the room would be filled with people looking at the bottom line and an immediate, guaranteed ROI, that pitch would get laughed out of the room. Using CBS as an example, the first questions/comments would be, "How many copies of the game do you sell, on average, with each yearly iteration?" "Currently more people view our CBS College Sports station on cable and satellite than the number of people that currently purchase your NCAA football game on a yearly basis. There is probably some crossover there with gamers who also watch our family of networks. What is the benefit, other than the obvious to you and those gamers (give them what they want, more profit for you), to us to essentially handing you the gift of our branding for zero cents and zero dollars." "The possibility that maybe, a few thousand fans who likely already watch our channels, listen to our stations will tune in?"

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                          They are going to insist on some licensing agreement to see an actual payoff for the use of their brand.
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                          • jello1717
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                            • Feb 2006
                            • 5721

                            #28
                            Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

                            Originally posted by NinerFan1983
                            At the very least, I wouldn't mind seeing ESPN, ABC and CBS in the game. I know they did CBS with NCAA Basketball 10, which looked awesome from a presentation standpoint.
                            I'm not sure why everyone keeps bringing up CBS as they predominantly (only?) show games from 1 conference. That's a serious waste of resources for such a small return since the vast majority of users wouldn't even play games on the CBS network. CBS was great for NCAA Basketball because CBS shows all kinds of basketball games.

                            Adding another ESPN crew and/or adding ABC (which is essentially ESPN anyway) would be great but it'd be a serious waste to add a network that only shows games from 1 conference (or even worse, 1 team like the Longhorn network or NBC).
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                            • Colt45
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                              • May 2011
                              • 656

                              #29
                              Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

                              Originally posted by Ziza9Noles94
                              Unfortunately, as the room would be filled with people looking at the bottom line and an immediate, guaranteed ROI, that pitch would get laughed out of the room. Using CBS as an example, the first questions/comments would be, "How many copies of the game do you sell, on average, with each yearly iteration?" "Currently more people view our CBS College Sports station on cable and satellite than the number of people that currently purchase your NCAA football game on a yearly basis. There is probably some crossover there with gamers who also watch our family of networks. What is the benefit, other than the obvious to you and those gamers (give them what they want, more profit for you), to us to essentially handing you the gift of our branding for zero cents and zero dollars." "The possibility that maybe, a few thousand fans who likely already watch our channels, listen to our stations will tune in?"

                              "Thank you gentleman. Maggie will validate your parking at the front desk."

                              They are going to insist on some licensing agreement to see an actual payoff for the use of their brand.
                              Any ROI on $0 invested is pretty freaking high.

                              The meeting would go like this:

                              "Hi, I'm Steve from EA. Would you like some free advertising by letting us use your name and logo in our games? Yes? Great!"

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                              • OmahaKnights
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                                • Sep 2005
                                • 120

                                #30
                                Re: LHN, SECN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU branding...

                                I would almost rather they invent fictional networks for different tiers of programming than continue an exclusive relationship with Disney. Having Brad Nessler call Ball State-Western Michigan is pretty immersion-killing. It's wishful thinking to bring CBS, FOX, and ABC all under one tent, so why not do things your own way?

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