NBA LIVE 14 Trailer - E3 2013: Xbox One & PS4

[JODYE]

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Remember the footage from the Microsoft conference a few weeks ago

Exactly people are asking for real footage and yeah there is some definite stiffness from what the last one showed

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That trailer they showed at the Microsoft conference was 100% pure horridness, and yes I needed to make up a word to describe how bad it was.

I believe in comparison to the live Tech demo, the second trailer is much closer to what the game is actually going to look like. Personally I did see some slight stiffness as well, but I thought a majority of the player movement looked very fluid, but again we don't know what was CGI and what wasn't, but it was definitely a huge step forward in terms of presentation.

And contrary to everyone elses gripes, I have no issue with the player models in the 2nd trailer. NBA players aren't linebackers, and shouldn't be designed as such.

[jmood88]

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NBA players don't look like linebackers but they don't look emaciated either.

[LingeringRegime]

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My biggest concern is that the "BounceTek" will violate the laws of simulation.

Meaning, everyone can just flick the right stick a little a do the same moves, regardless of who the player is.

EA Sports has had a history of making all the players the same in every game. Even the flagship FIFA, has had the same type of issues, where players can pull off moves they really can't in real life. Lately, FIFA has rectified this somewhat, but PES still have players that are more unique imo.

With that said I am rooting for Live to succeed again.

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I honestly think they had player models better looking in the past, but the games were so bad nobody cared. Looking at games like Live 07 or 08 had much better models than the anorexic looking models sizes that came later

[JODYE]

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NBA players don't look like linebackers but they don't look emaciated either.

I don't see an issue with these.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Are you kidding me. How can you say that looks good? The only think impressive (back in 2006) about this video was the virtual court and the graphics. The players animate horrendously in the video, even for back then.

If the Kyrie video is actually gameplay then that is damn impressive. I honestly thought that was some CGI trickery. But I'm guessing you can't see that since you're quite biased.

Of course 5-on-5 gameplay is far more important. But the little that we did see actually looked good, unlike your red herring example. Sometimes it's okay to give credit where it's due. But to reiterate, 5-on-5 gameplay is paramount. EA's still on the hook.

I'm biased? Dude if you only knew. If you only knew.

And back in 2006, that video had people drooling. Visually, that was as big of a leap you could imagine going into next gen.

[Ajknowsit]

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I don't see an issue with these.

I was going to post some comparison pic's the other day when everyone was complaining about the players looking to skinny, but then I was like why bother. Good job 13.

[youvalss]

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I honestly think they had player models better looking in the past, but the games were so bad nobody cared. Looking at games like Live 07 or 08 had much better models than the anorexic looking models sizes that came later

Yeah, except for the legs. Legs were, in most cases, same width as the arms or even skinnier. But when you looked at players during replays, when the lower body was out of the frame, the models looked good. I also think the waist was a bit too narrow, but that's me.

I actually liked 08 and 09's details/textures. It made players look more realistic/next-gen'ish.

[TUSS11]

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I'm biased? Dude if you only knew. If you only knew.

And back in 2006, that video had people drooling. Visually, that was as big of a leap you could imagine going into next gen.

Remember that was Live 07 footage from 2006. Live 06 was their first next gen game. That wow fact was nearly gone the following year since there wasn't much of a graphical difference between 06 and 07.

From an NBA Live 07 review:

The first thing you will notice when playing this game is that some of the animations look downright weird. For example, the dribble animation while walking looks great, but when holding the turbo button, the dribble animation looks horrible. The animation reminds me of when my seven-year-old cousin first learned how to dribble. When dribbling at full speed, the player will stick his arm straight out and dribble as if he is following the ball and can't control it. This would be a small thing if there weren’t so many other animation issues, from awkward looking lay-ups to dunks that go through the backboard.

http://www.operationsports.com/reviews/89/nba-live-07/

So my point still stands. What we've seen of this game so far looks good. That hasn't been the case in a long time. There's no harm in acknowledging that.

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Ill say this about Live 07. I think I remember no one was able to get a copy from EA before release because they knew the game was bugged out... so you didnt see anything on IGN or Gamespot or anything.

Once people got their hands on it, then those reviews came out, people were posting all kinds of bas videos on how terrible it was like guys launching the ball 5 feet in the air above the basket when they were standing right in front of it and shooting.. I believe someone here even offered me their copy for free because it was just that bad.

I had it preordered and cancelled to 2k because of all of the bad reviews and glad I did.

The tech demo they showed people did like it because it was the end of a certain way players moved around instead of a squared pattern it was more of a circle pattern and the foot planting thing...

Im saying this all to say that people were on the up and up about what was said and the new tech was seen as something new at the time.

[duggan]

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I don't see an issue with these.

This post really should put the whole debate to rest. I was finding it difficult to see the same problems that everyone else saw in the player model and now after seeing your post only confirmed my thought... that there actually is nothing wrong with them!

[CMH]

The still images do look better. I'll have to watch it again because they didn't look that good to me in motion.


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[Sirs]

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I think the player models and graphics are fine. The other games graphics just seem more arcadish and cartoony.

I still play live 10 with the suns and you can clearly notice differences in player bodies. Nash is short and somewhat stocky, Richardson is lean and athletic, hill bigger and athletic, amare has power and athletic and Lopez is an oger. When playing broadcast view and the speed of the game these close up details in a zoomed in pic really don't come into play.

[Sirs]

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Way better than 07 and any other live.