Timeetyo’s NCAA 14 Relegation System

[Timeetyo]

In the past I have had great success running with a 4 region 3 deep setup for relegation leagues but this year with the removal of the WAC I’ve had to completely rethink my system. Over the past few weeks I have made several posts with my plans and made quite a few tweaks. I am now content with my system and wanted to get its own thread for it as this is what I will roll out with on release day. I will be starting with a LVL 1 head coach at Georgia State with a plan to build it up over several years and eventually move over to UMASS if I can get an offer there. So here are my rules:

• All teams have their own regional designation (W, C, SE, NE)

• 4 total tiers of promotion / relegation

• Each team is 'stuck' in its new tier after any promotion / demotion for 3 years. This is to stop the constant flop of borderline teams and lend some stability.

• From the Elite-tier, the lowest eligible team (see above) will be relegated to the High-tier.

• From the High-tier, the champion (if eligible – otherwise the next best eligible team) is promoted to the Elite-tier and the lowest eligible team is relegated to the Mid-tier.

• From the Mid-tier, the champion (if eligible – otherwise the next best eligible team) is promoted to the High-tier and if there is a team promoted into this division for the region, the lowest eligible team is relegated to the Low-tier. Note – this means only 2 total teams will be promoted as the NE & SE share the Sun Belt and the W & C share C-USA.

• From the Low-tier, the team with the best record (if eligible – otherwise the next best eligible team) is promoted to the Mid-tier. Note – this means only 1 total team will be promoted as all four regions share the Independents.

• The only exception to the normal promotion rules is if a team would otherwise begin the season ranked while in the 3 lower tiers. This can cause more than 1 team to be promoted in any given season and also overrides the 3 season lock for after moving up/down. Any pre-season ranked team will always be promoted to the top tier. I have found this is a key to ensuring that all NCG teams are from the Elite-tier.

• Each Elite-tier and High-tier conference is given an auto qualifier to the BCS with all matchups setup as Elite vs. Elite or High vs. High. This helps give a nice boost to the High-tier winners as well as mean each CCG winner from the Elite-Tiers ends up in a loaded BCS bowl with another great team.

Below is a snapshot showing how my conferences are aligned for each tier and what that means in terms of balance between region and tier. This gives enough teams in the Elite-tier with enough of a gap before the High-tier that I should be able to keep all NCG participants coming from the Elite-tier.

I hope this helps – please let me know if you guys have any questions

Edit - added in to post 11 my system for random violations.

Edit 2 - added google docs link:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...lE&usp=sharing

[Timeetyo]

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SE Region:

[Timeetyo]

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Northeast Region

[Timeetyo]

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Central Region:

[Timeetyo]

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West Region

[Timeetyo]

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Map showing regions.

[Wildcats302]

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Looks very cool. I wanna try this, might make dynasty more interesting. I'm going with GA State to build them up.

[wiscowilz]

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Looks interesting, might try something similar for my set up although I might replace some schools with FCS (Montana/Montana State and maybe a couple others) or created TB school out west so that Minnesota, Nebraska, and Kansas are not out West...just can not separate Wisconsin-Minnesota in regions.

Kansas should be in the region with Texas as should Nebraska.

[Timeetyo]

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Looks interesting, might try something similar for my set up although I might replace some schools with FCS (Montana/Montana State and maybe a couple others) or created TB school out west so that Minnesota, Nebraska, and Kansas are not out West...just can not separate Wisconsin-Minnesota in regions.

Kansas should be in the region with Texas as should Nebraska.

Yeah - I have thought about replacing some SE schools with more out west to help balance it out. Minnesota is bothering me a bit and i'm considering just adding them to another region and leaving it unbalanced. I could also split some of the states (like western tx schools), but I hate to split up states.

[Soonerfan14]

Yea this is sexy lol def doing this

[Timeetyo]

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One piece I forgot to add that is a fun twist for my dynasties - and that is my own system for NCAA violations. I do this mostly as a fun twist to randomly punish the top 25 but it also has some fun twists in that a bad roll can really gut a top team if it takes out a key player. I can't describe the feeling I had when it cost me my starting QB in a year when I was expecting to make a push for my first national championship (and failed). I only do this for the top 25 as I get the best bang for the buck that way. So here is how it works:

• I have an excel spreadsheet setup to use random to make rolls for each of the top 25 teams (RND column).

• Based on this RND, it determines if a team is impacted, and if so, how many players.

• I have easily changeable tiers for players 1-5 so I can tweak if I want more or less teams to be impacted – and more or less players.

• My current setup is 70% (1-70) are not impacted; 10% lose 1 player (71-80); 10% lose 2 players (81-90); 3% lose 3 players (91-93); 3% lose 4 players (93-96); 4% lose 5 players (97-100).

• There is then a roll for each player to see what position is affected (WR & CB are in 2x, K&P are combined).

• Next is a roll on depth (1-3) with 1 being the starter. If a 3 is rolled and a team only has 2 at a position I impact the 2nd stringer. If the same position gets hit for the same depth slot – I’ll take the next best equivalent (see below example).

• If it is a player on my team – I just cut them at the appropriate stage in the offseason. For other teams, since we can’t cut I essentially replace them with a walk-on. This means editing down key ratings to make them 60ish overall. The key here is to edit them across the board, not just cutting speed / THP/THA, etc. I did this one year and team ended up playing a RB with 20 speed. Oops…it was ugly.


Below is what this looks like for a given year. Here are some observations from this particular roll:

• 2nd team is gutted. They lose their starting QB, LE, & RE. Then they lose their backup RE and their 2nd best kicker or punter. Ouch!!!

• 4th team loses their 3rd QB (oh well unless he’s a stud freshman). Then there is the dilemma of what to do at LT. They lose their 2nd LT (easy) and need to lose one more. If they had 3 LTs, I’d take their 3rd LT as well. If not – I’d take their 2nd RT (next closest equivalent).

• 9 of 25 teams are impacted losing a total of 22 players are impacted



Edit and update:
Thanks to MRE and a few others questions and great feedback, I have added a few new tabs which include:
- A calculator for you to change the number of teams used and thresholds to get an idea of on average how many teams and players will be impacted.
- A new tab showing all 126 teams for those who want to have the potential to impact those outside the top 25
- A new 1-70 OVR roll to determine which players is impacted. Instead of rolling QB #2, this rolls player number 19. Just sort the team by OVR and nuke the 19th player down. This helps make it more fair what positions are impacted.

[BleedGreen710]

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First u showed some real cool custom conferences but now you're talking about how to 'randomly punish the top 25' by cutting random players from the teams? Now you lost me..

[Timeetyo]

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It doesn't have to do with my relegation system - but its something I also do in my franchise and thought I'd share is it has been lots of fun.

[RebelHog]

My head is spinning

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[shopejay]

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Your whole setup has me very interested in the whole thing. I really like how you bring an "NCAA Violations" element back to the game. One Question......Do you need to control all the teams to make the cuts needed to have this work?

Sorry didn't read the entire paragraph.....LOL!! I understand it now