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  • XxJustAguessxX
    Banned
    • Sep 2012
    • 2000

    #1

    Intentional grounding

    Not a big issue, but in trying to make the game rules more effective, am I missing something? If the quarterback throws ball away in the pocket while under the pressure, isn't that intentional grounding? Excuse my ignorance, I thought it was under pressure and throwing the ball into the ground but I also thought if under pressure and throwing it away in the pocket was Intentional grounding ?
  • Orange Krush
    Pro
    • Jun 2013
    • 581

    #2
    Re: Intentional grounding

    If you're inside the tackle box you can throw it away, but it must be somewhat close to a receiver. It's only intentional grounding if there is no receiver near where you threw the ball.

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    • Redemption1
      Rookie
      • Jul 2012
      • 32

      #3
      Re: Intentional grounding

      I have never seen the game call grounding n the CPU. I think it's because the game knows it was trying to throw to a receiver so even if the ball lands with no one around for 30 yards the CPU goes"ohh well I know that was intended for X. I got hit as I threw so the pass sailed off but still, I threw to X so it's not grounding." It's honestly really cheap. I've seen the game throw while being dragged down right out of bounds near no one and have nothing called.

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      • Orange Krush
        Pro
        • Jun 2013
        • 581

        #4
        Re: Intentional grounding

        I have also never seen intentional grounding called on the CPU, even after the QB throws it straight out of bounds right after taking the snap. I really wish penalties were more relevant in this game. Right now they are basically a non-factor.

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        • XxJustAguessxX
          Banned
          • Sep 2012
          • 2000

          #5
          Re: Intentional grounding

          I wish there was a way to properly implement this, it's sad it's 2013, they have come a hell of a ways but they seem to not know how to effectively put things in the game and have them work. Even the play were the QB is getting hit and the ball plops out and is not called a fumble but not a pass either, makes me scratch my head.

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          • Swamp Swagger
            Gator Bait
            • Sep 2012
            • 3825

            #6
            It's cheap how the computer can throw away the ball and never get called.

            For you even if a Wr is in the area if you click they throw away button while in the pocket you get flagged even if like a said a Wr is near

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            • Aranor
              Rookie
              • May 2011
              • 366

              #7
              Re: Intentional grounding

              It's the same as clipping and illegal block in the back. Game always calls clipping when illegal block should be called. It's the difference between a 10 and 15 yard penalty. Makes these game look bad when a clipping call is called when you can clearly see the player has his hands on the guy's back.
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              • utahman19
                Rookie
                • Jul 2006
                • 199

                #8
                Re: Intentional grounding

                Originally posted by Orange Krush
                If you're inside the tackle box you can throw it away, but it must be somewhat close to a receiver. It's only intentional grounding if there is no receiver near where you threw the ball.
                Not entirely true, as there can be intentional grounding outside the tackle box. There are three ways to avoid intentional grounding:

                1) A receiver with an opportunity to catch the pass, not "in the area of the pass". Either way, there are no clear guidelines and the rule is ambiguous. The rulebook states "When in question, the Team A player has a reasonable opportunity to catch the pass."

                If there is no receiver who can catch the pass, BOTH of the following conditions must be met to avoid intentional grounding:

                2) QB must be outside of the "tackle box". The tackle box is not really a box, but imaginary lines parallel to the sidelines 5 yards in each direction from the center. It doesn't matter where the tackles are at any point, the box is 10 yards wide. "Tackle box" is somewhat misleading, as unless the team is using ridiculously wide offensive line splits, the tight end would be inside the "tackle" box.

                3) The pass MUST at least reach the neutral zone before hitting the ground or going out-of-bounds. For the purposes of this rule, the spot a pass that goes out-of-bounds is where it crosses the sideline, not where it hits the ground out-of-bounds.

                NCAA Football has done a poor job of implementing Intentional Grounding for both the user and the CPU. Either fix it for both the user and the CPU or remove it.

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                • XxJustAguessxX
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 2000

                  #9
                  Re: Intentional grounding

                  Do the penalties work in madden properly?

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                  • Sundown2600
                    Brake less...Go Faster!
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 1362

                    #10
                    Re: Intentional grounding

                    As mentioned before IG was one of the infractions that was pretty glitched up last year. CPU never got called for it. Last year block in the back (clipping) didn't work either. Some sliders were reversed. It was just a big mess.

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                    • XxJustAguessxX
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 2000

                      #11
                      Re: Intentional grounding

                      Originally posted by Sundown2600
                      As mentioned before IG was one of the infractions that was pretty glitched up last year. CPU never got called for it. Last year block in the back (clipping) didn't work either. Some sliders were reversed. It was just a big mess.
                      So we've reached a dead end? Are the fixable or are we getting another of year of decent gameplay but no distinct rules to govern the play.

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                      • Sundown2600
                        Brake less...Go Faster!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 1362

                        #12
                        Re: Intentional grounding

                        Originally posted by XxJustAguessxX
                        So we've reached a dead end? Are the fixable or are we getting another of year of decent gameplay but no distinct rules to govern the play.
                        The answer is in your question sir

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                        • TallyBoi7
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 673

                          #13
                          Re: Intentional grounding

                          Originally posted by Orange Krush
                          I have also never seen intentional grounding called on the CPU, even after the QB throws it straight out of bounds right after taking the snap. I really wish penalties were more relevant in this game. Right now they are basically a non-factor.
                          I agree...penalties just aren't realistic in the game. It would be pretty cool to see the CPU get called for IG or even delay of game(not sure how you would implement it since the user will never get called for it). Late hits also need to be addressed...currently you can continue to tackle someone out of bounds and won't get called for anything.

                          I think certain penalties fall under the category of those "little things" that would add so much more life to this game.
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                          • JPV555
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 13

                            #14
                            Re: Intentional grounding

                            This is my biggest gripe. I don't know how many times I've gotten into the backfield, about to sack the QB and the guy just throws it into the ground and it's just an incomplete pass.

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                            • prd689
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 206

                              #15
                              Re: Intentional grounding

                              I've experienced, many times, my QB running out to the right with the intention of throwing it away and all he does is pump fake... then sack. I wouldn't gripe if it only happened once, hell maybe twice. Now I've seen it about 15 times throughout a couple of seasons. Quite annoying.
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