WHOA! Increasing Knuckleball Movement ruined my RTTS SP!? Where to stop,40-99?

[shifty1]

Jeez, my RTTS SP had a fantastic Knuckleball until I improved the Knuckle movement from the 40's all the way to 99 after 2 complete games. Now my guy is a BB machine and can't stay in the game deep because he's always battling a 2-0 or 3-1 count after horrible knuckleballs fly all over the place!

I'm going to start over, can anyone help me with the attributes to increase in training? Where should I keep the Knuckle movement at, 30-40, or lower?

Last time I gave him a knuckle-curve and 4-seam FB. I don't like the K-curve, what would you add? I only used it 4-5 times a game anyway. The 4-seam is great, but maybe I should switch to a low-moving sinker, splitter, 2-seam or running FB?

If you like a certain pitch, please let me know how you have your attributes for each pitch set, at least on the movement side.

For now I might just make a Knuckle with VERY little movement and all control, a 4-seam with max control, and maybe a 2-seam or cutter with good movement, good control and a lower speed.

What are your thoughts on RTTS Knuckleballers in general? Having fun with your? Thx for any tips

[RecordBreakerCF]

Re: WHOA! Increasing Knuckleball Movement ruined my RTTS SP!? Where to stop,40-99?

It sucks that it ruined your RTTS SP, however it did not ruined my RTTS SP, though.

[jewdago]

Re: WHOA! Increasing Knuckleball Movement ruined my RTTS SP!? Where to stop,40-99?

I like to pair the knuckler with a change. The knuckler and change look identical out of the hand, but the change drops straight down, either into or straight through the zone, whereas the knuckler does its thing.

[shifty1]

Re: WHOA! Increasing Knuckleball Movement ruined my RTTS SP!? Where to stop,40-99?

I created a new guy, LHP with sliders all the way on Stamina, Control and then Dominant Pitch. I just left knuckle movement at 30, only increasing his control. The difference is night and day. I gave him a sinker-ball and kept the 4-seam. The speeds are 60MPH, 79MPH sinker and 88MPH 4SFB, it's working out a lot better.

[jewdago]

Re: WHOA! Increasing Knuckleball Movement ruined my RTTS SP!? Where to stop,40-99?

Your sinker is essentially a circle change, though it probably moves less horizontally than a circle change does.

[shifty1]

Re: WHOA! Increasing Knuckleball Movement ruined my RTTS SP!? Where to stop,40-99?

Your sinker is essentially a circle change, though it probably moves less horizontally than a circle change does.

Yeah, I noticed that it moves like a really subtle 2-seam FB or screwball, but it's hardly noticeable right now. I just got called up to AAA, haven't spent a lot of points on Sinker movement yet. It's gonna be a killer strike out pitch against righties.

All this started because I saw the "Knuckleball!" documentary about/starring Dickey, Wakefield, Hough and Niekro. It was great, check it out if you haven't already.

[xboxxerx]

Re: WHOA! Increasing Knuckleball Movement ruined my RTTS SP!? Where to stop,40-99?

All this started because I saw the "Knuckleball!" documentary about/starring Dickey, Wakefield, Hough and Niekro. It was great, check it out if you haven't already.

Just watched the documentary Knuckleball myself. Was a great film I thought. I hope someone else comes along with it with Dickey being the last active pitcher now. I am planning to make my own knuckler as well. Wanting to go the Dickey route with the faster knuckler.

[xboxxerx]

Re: WHOA! Increasing Knuckleball Movement ruined my RTTS SP!? Where to stop,40-99?

Shifty,

I forgot I had copied down Tim Wakefields attributes from MLB12 for his repertoire. For his knuckler it was like this;

Velocity - 43
Control - 80
Break - 84

The speed should top out around 65 mph. See if this helps you out. I had totally for got I had this earlier. Hope it does help ya. I have the rest of his attributes/pitches written down as well if you want them.