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  • prototype561
    Rookie
    • Oct 2007
    • 269

    #1

    Speed?

    What speed threshold are you guys playing on, at default(Heisman) I'm seeing De'Anthony Thomas get run down way to often. I'm talking about guys coming clean across the field to catch him. (Not abusing acc/spd burst either).

    Its just not him either, I just used him as example b/c he is one the fastest on the game. Now I don't expect to score every time I break but when guys like him get a step on the defense they are usually gone.
  • Motown
    OS Brew Connoisseur
    • Jul 2002
    • 9169

    #2
    Re: Speed?

    0 threshhold & they ain't catchin' Thomas

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    • davo1021
      Rookie
      • Sep 2010
      • 158

      #3
      Re: Speed?

      I've been playing at 25 but I'm thinking I should go lower. 50 (default) is too high.

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      • drift7one
        Rookie
        • Jun 2010
        • 457

        #4
        Re: Speed?

        I've been playing at 15, and have had some close ones that break and he almost gets caught from behind. I'll try 10 out, and see how it goes.

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        • jackster802
          Pro
          • Apr 2013
          • 511

          #5
          Re: Speed?

          I have found that the most realistic setting is at 0. If I could go lower, I would. But go watch a few of DATs highlights, even with the threshold at 0, you dont get that break away effect.
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          • steviewonder1388
            Just started!
            • Jun 2013
            • 4

            #6
            Re: Speed?

            Originally posted by jackster802
            I have found that the most realistic setting is at 0. If I could go lower, I would. But go watch a few of DATs highlights, even with the threshold at 0, you dont get that break away effect.
            Agreed. I honestly don't think 0 is low enough as there are still times that I get run down by guys who shouldn't be able to catch me.

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            • prototype561
              Rookie
              • Oct 2007
              • 269

              #7
              Re: Speed?

              Ok, I'm going to try 0, I just want game breakers to be that. It shouldn't take elite speed to break a long one for a TD.

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              • The_Wise_One
                Why Not Us?
                • Jan 2011
                • 2633

                #8
                Originally posted by prototype561
                Ok, I'm going to try 0, I just want game breakers to be that. It shouldn't take elite speed to break a long one for a TD.
                What game speed are you playing at? Could make a difference.
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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23442

                  #9
                  Re: Speed?

                  50 and I never been caught from behind with Thomas.

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                  • JoedicyMichael
                    Rookie
                    • May 2012
                    • 232

                    #10
                    Re: Speed?

                    Originally posted by prototype561
                    Ok, I'm going to try 0, I just want game breakers to be that. It shouldn't take elite speed to break a long one for a TD.
                    Yeah man, 0 is a good fit.


                    I play on 10 most of the time tho.. It will be interesting for this year because the jukes and animations make you lose a step (in terms of a player chasing you or you trying to create space between a trailing defender)..
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                    • dawgpound 26
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 41

                      #11
                      Re: Speed?

                      I started with 20 and was getting caught from behind when I shouldn't have been. I started testing it out and it seems that anything from around 8 to 12 works pretty well. I don't like setting it to zero because my OD then just turns into who has the fastest players.

                      I noticed when I had it set to 0 that I was burning people with D'Anthony Thomas pretty much whenever I wanted, regardless of his fatigue level. It may be more sim to have it at 0 with everyone at full stamina, but when you have guys at around half stamina still roasting the defense at a 0 setting it is not as realistic.
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                      • khaliib
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 2884

                        #12
                        Re: Speed?

                        The major problem is that the AI and Animations are separate and on opposite sides of the plank (per say) and the basic editing functions the game gives only allow us to tilt (per say) one to be higher and the other lower.
                        Second, is that there is no way to balance (50/50) these two with the current in-game editing setup.


                        It's basically like this...

                        Fresh = 100% of animation affects with 25% AI programming.
                        Varsity = 75% of animation affects with 50% AI programming.
                        AA = 50% of animation affects with 75% AI programming.
                        Heisman = 25% of animation affects with 100% AI programming.
                        (can't have 0% cause that mean off/not used and the game simply wouldn't function)

                        On Fresh, you will see the many of the Animation affects (ie difference in Speed/Acceleration of players), but a very dumb AI application.

                        On Heisman, you will get a better AI application, but minimized Animation affects (ie DAT getting caught on a break away)

                        No worries though!!!
                        We now know through Xan's Editor that there are some hidden Animation and AI fields that need to be turned on and/or adjusted.

                        Through this we are able to adjust the Animation and AI aspects individually and experience better AI gameplay as well as greater animation triggering.

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                        • berad88
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1211

                          #13
                          Re: Speed?

                          I don't know how you guys can play with the speed threshold lowered. Makes the game incredibly easy.

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                          • TomSNC
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 80

                            #14
                            Re: Speed?

                            I only play on 0 threshold as it seems to give the most realism in terms of fast players not getting beasted by much slower ones, though I can see how some would prefer higher due to difficulty. It becomes like realism vs difficulty
                            Last edited by TomSNC; 06-29-2013, 12:53 PM.

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                            • wolverinemaniac
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 412

                              #15
                              Re: Speed?

                              Originally posted by berad88
                              I don't know how you guys can play with the speed threshold lowered. Makes the game incredibly easy.
                              most of us play with adjusted sliders that make the game more challenging.

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