WR <-> CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

[CRIP4LIFE]

at the line of scrimmage, there is a new feature that allows the offense to hold RT (R2 on ps3) and then select a WR and a bar at the top of the screen will show the comparative matchup between that WR and whichever defender is guarding him.

i've noticed that during the game, sometimes when the defense is in a zone, using the feature results in all zeros for the comparison. on one level, this makes sense, since in a zone you don't guard a player, but a zone instead. however, isn't this unfair in favor of the offense since it immediately tells the offense whether the defense is in a zone or not? i think the offense should have to read that, not be told by a red bar on your screen.

so, bug or working as intended? (if it's working as planned, imho, it's an extremely broken idea)

[LocDawg5050]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

I deff agree with yur comment. I dont think you should be able to see the matchup screen in the first place. This is what the depth chart is for. But for that feature to give you a clue as to the type of D is unfair.

[nortobc]

I deff agree with yur comment. I dont think you should be able to see the matchup screen in the first place. This is what the depth chart is for. But for that feature to give you a clue as to the type of D is unfair.

lol...leave it to EA to try and put some new feature in only to have it open a loophole.

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[jmik58]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

OP is onto something IMO. I pointed the same thing out during the demo. I quit using the matchup view because of it. It seemed like clockwork that the slot receivers would only show a matchup preview if they were covered in man. I don't remember for sure if the #1 or 2 had the same giveaway. Either way I'm not using it because it appears to be an exploit.

[tan_man]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

I like this game and it has a lot of potential but its broken in a million pieces.

Now I know why everyone online is slicing up my zone to no end.

[CRIP4LIFE]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

OP is onto something IMO. I pointed the same thing out during the demo. I quit using the matchup view because of it. It seemed like clockwork that the slot receivers would only show a matchup preview if they were covered in man. I don't remember for sure if the #1 or 2 had the same giveaway. Either way I'm not using it because it appears to be an exploit.

except for when playing online.. you cant control people exploiting versus you in any type of online environment.

[Swamp Swagger]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

Man you're right I never thought about that. But on offense does it not just compare the the Wr to the DB that he thinks would be covering him? Or does it just like you said always come up as zero.

I stopped using the feature a long time ago because the ratings seem to mean nothing. On defense it says half the Wr's have -14 release yet they blow past my Db nearly 75% of the time if not more. I mean I know using bump n run will get you burned and you should never depend on it that much, but when you play against weaker Wr's with -15 or more they shouldn't beat you so easy

[patelaaw]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

This is what the depth chart is for. But for that feature to give you a clue as to the type of D is unfair.

[EarvGotti]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

Actually, I just tested this and it doesn't seem to be broken. I didnt see all zeros for any of the DBs whether they were in man or zone. Not sure why you were seeing that. It seems to be working fine for me. Not giving away the coverage.

[Swamp Swagger]

Actually, I just tested this and it doesn't seem to be broken. I didnt see all zeros for any of the DBs whether they were in man or zone. Not sure why you were seeing that. It seems to be working fine for me. Not giving away the coverage.

I was thinking this as well. I knew it shows zeros on like special teams and such but not sure I have seen it during offense.

Again though I don't really use it that much

[GruffyMcGuiness]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

Darren Waller is a 6-6 or 6'7 receiver at Tech. When I checked his stats compared to the VT CB he was up against, it said he was two inches shorter

[CRIP4LIFE]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

Actually, I just tested this and it doesn't seem to be broken. I didnt see all zeros for any of the DBs whether they were in man or zone. Not sure why you were seeing that. It seems to be working fine for me. Not giving away the coverage.

it doesnt do it all the time. i mentioned that part in my OP. but i cant tell rhyme or reason why it does it sometimes. i, too, tested -- but online with a friend in an unranked versus. it's either a very shortsighted addition at best, or a poorly added feature that ruins online matches at worst. here is what we found:

1) we both saw it 50% of the game, both on offense and defense.
2) it only triggered all 0's when a zone was called (we tested cover 2, 3, 4, etc).. and never ever triggered when in man-2-man
3) on zone blitzes it seemed to work fine -- correctly comparing the WR vs their counterpart
4) we repeated these findings with a 3rd xbox user on a different xbox.. same results.
5) playing versus a cpu wont guarantee it will trigger unless they happen to call a zone defense that triggers it.

[bcruise]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

I can't say for sure one way or another whether there's an exploit here, but I am noticing one thing for sure: There's more to that matchup bar than meets the eye. More stuff factors into the speed matchup than just speed, for example, because a direct speed comparison between a CB and his WR assignment usually doesn't match. And RTE isn't a straight 1:1 conversion for the Route Running matchup (I think it's 1 RTE point for .5 Route Run on the bar, on the WR's side. of course the CB influences it too, I'm just not sure how yet).

I'm just in the early stages of messing around with this, doing so with a created WR and CB with the default 40's across the board. At those ratings, the only difference on the bar is Height, to reflect the WR's 4 inch height advantage. From there I'm just tweaking various ratings to see what triggers a change on the bar.

All I'm saying is don't assume it's broken just yet - the fact that I can purposely put all the bar ratings at 0 means there's some kind of pattern to it - just a matter of figuring it out.

Edit: Just for the sake of making all things equal, I added 4 inches to the CB's height - and now every bar matchup is at 0. I feel like that's the best place to start.

[CRIP4LIFE]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

agree, we may not be understanding it fully.. that exactly why my thread title is, "bug or working properly?"..

i do know, however, that the same WR<->DB matchup personnel would yield the numbered comparison sometimes and only when using zone it would display all 0's. now, it wasn't every zone. just sometimes. and NEVER all 0's when in man-2-man.

so, i think the community will be grateful for anything you discover in testing.

we'd also consider it awesome if some EA dev could stick his head in here and help us understand it a bit.

[EarvGotti]

Re: WR &lt;-&gt; CB Matchup Feature bug or working properly?

agree, we may not be understanding it fully.. that exactly why my thread title is, "bug or working properly?"..

i do know, however, that the same WR<->DB matchup personnel would yield the numbered comparison sometimes and only when using zone it would display all 0's. now, it wasn't every zone. just sometimes. and NEVER all 0's when in man-2-man.

so, i think the community will be grateful for anything you discover in testing.

we'd also consider it awesome if some EA dev could stick his head in here and help us understand it a bit.

Yes, I see what you are saying. When I tested it in online ranked, it would never show 0's for man coverage....but the only time i noticed all 0s was when there was a blitz and the slot receiver was not covered. Haven't seen all 0's for anyone else besides the slot receiver but then again i was in online ranked and it could have just been the defense the guy was running. For the other receivers, it showed numbers even if they were in zone. I would love to understand this darn thing better grrrrr.