I am still holding onto hope of a day one patch but I her ya loud an clear on just leaving this on the shelf. Funny how I was chastized to no end by just telling people to hold off buying for a few weeks and overcome the nostalgia of a "new 2014 game". I get that it's just a game but for many of us (me included) I get my rocks off gettin excited seeing an awesome game on sat and then want to get just as excited replicating said game on my dynasty. I just don't get that with EA and it hurts. I play this game and between all the issues that have been present since literally 2008 it's asanine. I enjoy the new engine, the jukes, and recruiting...but these other issues and graphics and oh so bad player models stand out like a nasty herpe when the game is playing. I still don't understand why NCAA can't just take madden and strip it down to models and code and plug in so to speak NCAA. I love the graphics in madden and the models are top notch. I just got into nba2k13 a few days ago and it's just jaw dropping how great that game is. Just gets me every time how something that "should" be good ends up a mess due to bad leadership and employee laziness.