Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

[thbends]

Ok so I recruited an ATH last night that had me as their number 1 choice. He is from Copperas Cove where Robert Griffin is from so I am thinking he is possibly RG4. He has great stats and after scouting him he is the highest rated player interested in my team.

Here is the issue I need help with:

He has locked me out until I fix his "Playing Time". The problem is that looking at his stats I have no idea what position he would play. He could be anything from a QB, CB, WR, TE, FS, SS.... the sky is the limit. He has stats that cover all those positions.

What I have tried:

I went through my recruiting list and cut the CBs and WRs down to like one or two guys hoping that would clear things with him but it didn't.

Any suggestions? I really want to sign this guy.

[Gosens6]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

Do you have the break lock coach skill? Iv'e noticed that's the easiest way to unlock recruits. Athletes also have their position revealed to you when they come for a school visit, but, since he's locked you out there's no way you can make that happen.

I believe the playing time aspect is tied to how many seniors you have at the position on your roster, which means how many guys will be leaving so the incoming FR doesn't have long to wait before he can play.

[Strategizer]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

1. Did he drop points when he was scouted?

2. I was under the impression that hitting a dealbreaker after adding someone to your board simply meant you wouldn't get points for that pitch. I didn't think you would be prevented from recruiting him entirely. Are you sure this is what you are seeing?

[nortobc]

Do you have the break lock coach skill? Iv'e noticed that's the easiest way to unlock recruits. Athletes also have their position revealed to you when they come for a school visit, but, since he's locked you out there's no way you can make that happen.

I believe the playing time aspect is tied to how many seniors you have at the position on your roster, which means how many guys will be leaving so the incoming FR doesn't have long to wait before he can play.

Is the only way to unlock a prospect is to have the unlock skill?

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[buickbeast]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

http://www.operationsports.com/featu...ruiting-guide/

[thbends]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

He is on my recruiting board so he must have locked me out after the preseason. I can not make offers and it literally says he refused to consider my team until the issue is resolved.

The deal is he wants to go to Baylor. The predicted red line for lock outs only has Baylor on the top of it. I have never seen this before. I just do not know how to handle it. It's driving me crazy.

[thbends]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

http://www.operationsports.com/featu...ruiting-guide/

That does not mention this situation.

[Strategizer]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

When you scouted him, did his OVR drop?

And I guess dealbreakers uncovered in the preseaon prevent you from recruiting the player, because I was under the impression that if the dealbreaker came into play once they were on the board, you simply didnt get the points. Maybe that only applies during the season and/or maybe you have to offer them first.

[Gosens6]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

When you scouted him, did his OVR drop?

And I guess dealbreakers uncovered in the preseaon prevent you from recruiting the player, because I was under the impression that if the dealbreaker came into play once they were on the board, you simply didnt get the points. Maybe that only applies during the season and/or maybe you have to offer them first.

If the recruit has him locked out, he can't even have contact with the player until the situation is resolved, OR, by getting the unlock coach skill..

[Dogslax41]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

If the recruit has him locked out, he can't even have contact with the player until the situation is resolved, OR, by getting the unlock coach skill..

Exactly. A deal breaker is just that, a dealbreaker. No matter what he does the kid wont listen to him until he fixes it. Curious thing is why playing time became an issue after the season started. Did you change your depth chart (possibly adding an underclassmen into a starting spot of a senior or have someone come off a redshirt)?

[Strategizer]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

If the recruit has him locked out, he can't even have contact with the player until the situation is resolved, OR, by getting the unlock coach skill..

He is not "locked out" for purposes of the unlock skill. That is different from a Dealbreaker. Don't conflate the two.

I am almost certain I read that the dealbreaker will not prevent you from recruiting someone after you have already begun to, but rather it will just give you 0 points for that pitch. Wish I could find the quote to confirm.

[Dogslax41]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

He is not "locked out" for purposes of the unlock skill. That is different from a Dealbreaker. Don't conflate the two.

I am almost certain I read that the dealbreaker will not prevent you from recruiting someone after you have already begun to, but rather it will just give you 0 points for that pitch. Wish I could find the quote to confirm.

From EA's website
On the other end of the spectrum are Deal Breakers, which some prospects use as an absolute determination of whether or not they’ll even consider a school. If a player has a Deal Breaker and your school rates at a C+ or worse in that category, you won’t be able to add that player to your board or spend any points on scouting or recruiting. However, if you can get your grade above a C+, the prospect will unlock and you can continue with the process.

But I'm not sure if the unlock skill would work unless he got his playing time above a C+ because the unlock skill just gets you back in a battle if you happened to be fourth on the kids list when he narrowed his list.

[Strategizer]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

From EA's website
On the other end of the spectrum are Deal Breakers, which some prospects use as an absolute determination of whether or not they’ll even consider a school. If a player has a Deal Breaker and your school rates at a C+ or worse in that category, you won’t be able to add that player to your board or spend any points on scouting or recruiting. However, if you can get your grade above a C+, the prospect will unlock and you can continue with the process.

But I'm not sure if the unlock skill would work unless he got his playing time above a C+ because the unlock skill just gets you back in a battle if you happened to be fourth on the kids list when he narrowed his list.

Unless someone can show me otherwise, the unlock skill is for recruits who have locked in their top schools, not overcoming a dealbreaker. I don't think unlock in that excerpt means the term of art "unlock" in the recruiting battle sense. That also doesn't get into what happens when the dealbreaker occurs after you have started recruiting the player.

What I may have read is that you get to keep him on your board and his scholarship remains if you have offered, but can't put any recruiting points into him. That would make more sense.

[Dogslax41]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

Unless someone can show me otherwise, the unlock skill is for recruits who have locked in their top schools, not overcoming a dealbreaker. I don't think unlock in that excerpt means the term of art "unlock" in the recruiting battle sense. That also doesn't get into what happens when the dealbreaker occurs after you have started recruiting the player.

The first paragraph is directly from EA's website and explains what happens when it occurs after you start recruiting (you cant spend any points).

The second paragraph was my agreement that the unlock feature for coaches only allows you to recruit a player that had you off his short list. If you have a grade below one of his dealbreakers it still wont let you put points toward him.

Edit: I agree with your edit. What I dont know is if the game would auto remove your scholarship offer. So basically anything done to date still counts but you just cant do anything more.

That still doesnt explain how playing time rating changed after the season started.

[Timeetyo]

Re: Help: Recruiting an ATH. He has locked me out.

Playing time changes with recruits targeted. This is made more difficult as he is an athlete and you can't see what the computer is putting him as. I would do this:

- save game (turn auto off)
- remove all others from the board for positions he MAY play
- see if it fixes it

If it does - then you just have to figure out if it is worth take out all others from the position he is tied to from your board until he signs.