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  • USF11
    C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
    • Jun 2003
    • 4245

    #1

    The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

    I found this site like 10 years ago because of NCAA...I have owned every version of the game dating back to Bill Walsh.

    The core component of EA sports games has been the control you had over the players. It seems like this year especially on Defense the responsiveness in the control you have over IDP's is inconsistent, lagging, unresponsive.

    It's like they took movement away and turned the game into button mashing(which doesn't work anyways).

    My personal favorite part of last gen ncaa football games was taking over on defense by forcing fumbles...getting ints...forcing pressure...now it's like throw hands up in the air wait to be back on offense .

    It's just a really bad game. Which is surprising because madden last year while not great by anymeans....atleast gave the user fluid control of defensive players dropping into coverage and tackling in the open field.

    End Rant.
    Last edited by USF11; 07-17-2013, 07:13 PM.
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  • The_Wise_One
    Why Not Us?
    • Jan 2011
    • 2633

    #2
    Could the defense use some work? Yes. Is 14 a really bad game? No.

    Do you remember the psychic DBs? That was a game breaking problem for me.They have been toning down the defense since 11 I'm pretty sure. It's just more fun that way with the big plays. The pursuit is frustrating....but I'll take it over a lock down D.
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    • The JareBear
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      • Jul 2010
      • 11560

      #3
      Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

      I'm having a lot of fun with it, but I appreciate your opinion
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      • USF11
        C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
        • Jun 2003
        • 4245

        #4
        Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

        Originally posted by The_Wise_One
        Could the defense use some work? Yes. Is 14 a really bad game? No.

        Do you remember the psychic DBs? That was a game breaking problem for me.They have been toning down the defense since 11 I'm pretty sure. It's just more fun that way with the big plays. The pursuit is frustrating....but I'll take it over a lock down D.
        I would say they took all the fun out of the game by crippling the way individual players are controlled.

        Is it fun to play defense in this game. No
        Is it fun to return kicks/punts. No
        Can I jump the pile on 4th downs or at the goaline. No
        Can I block punts or FG's without glitches. No
        Do dominant Defensive line Pass Rushers have an impact value.No

        How do they continue to take the most "fun" game in the world and make it unfun?
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        • NewNapkin
          Moderator
          • May 2009
          • 989

          #5
          Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

          Sell the game if you don't like it...

          Most of us here love it, no need to complain about it.
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          • ROL Jamas
            Rookie
            • Mar 2006
            • 58

            #6
            Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

            I've had a thought to myself for a while in terms of how fun the game is for me. As years have gone on, the game has become less fun, sure. The game graphically and in terms of realism is as good as it's ever been. However, there are elements of the game that just don't strike me as 'fun' anymore. What's more interesting, is that the stuff I used to consider fun, maybe has weaned from game to game.

            The question I've had to ask myself is this: Are the games getting worse, or perhaps are my tastes maturing, as I get older? I've gotten every NCAA game 12 years straight - starting with NCAA '03 (Harrington) for the Gamecube. When I got that game, I was 16 years old, had no time commitments whatsoever, and had never owned a college football video game. I played the ever-loving crap out of that game, and still cherish it to this day. Now, I'm 27 - I have a degree, I'm in the business world, my time is a lot more valuable, and I don't have nearly as much time for this series anymore, as much as I still love it.

            So, my point is, I try to be a little less judgmental of the games as I have in years past, as maybe it's not the games getting worse, but rather me just having more refined tastes in what I'm looking for. That said, I'm rather enjoying NCAA '14, specifically the amount of zone read and running the football. It's been great!

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            • lhinds7
              Rookie
              • Sep 2010
              • 155

              #7
              Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

              I think the defense in this game is garbage. Literally every single time the computer has a pass completion, that WR is open because the defender either cut way late (ran downfield a few extra yards, even though they're looking at the WR), or the defender doesn't get off the line immediately or takes an odd route to the WR. And on running, the read option is definitely overpowered. There is no way you should be able to gain 5+ yards every single read option.

              That being said, I still found a way to win every game this season by at least 7 points with Nebraska on AA. It's just frustrating to see your players cover routes like garbage or be engaged in a block every single play and there is nothing you can do about it. This game makes it seem like every single game is just a scoring battle, the team with more possesions wins.

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              • BBallcoach
                MVP
                • Dec 2012
                • 1524

                #8
                Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

                You have no clue what you're talking about. I won a game last night cause I forced 2 fumbles and got a pick on default AA. Defense plays great other than if you use zone too much you'll fail. Which is realistic. you have to switch up your defensive calls.
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                • USF11
                  C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 4245

                  #9
                  Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

                  Defense is the same as every EA game for the past generation. I can run quarters man in every situation and shut down the other team human or CPU.

                  My issue is the user controlled player feels laggy and unresponsive. Is there even a strip button anymore? Or is it all on the stick?
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                  • cusefan74
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 2408

                    #10
                    Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

                    Originally posted by USF11
                    Defense is the same as every EA game for the past generation. I can run quarters man in every situation and shut down the other team human or CPU.

                    My issue is the user controlled player feels laggy and unresponsive. Is there even a strip button anymore? Or is it all on the stick?

                    I doubt you can use that defense in every situation and shut down the other team. The cpu, maybe, human teams no way, and if you can, you need to play better people.

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                    • MrRudy
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 622

                      #11
                      Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

                      Originally posted by drmvp
                      Sell the game if you don't like it...

                      Most of us here love it, no need to complain about it.
                      How does this help further the conversation in any way? There is always room for constructive criticism and there are lots of folks who depend on the few folks who do complain to give them balance between your completely unhelpful "We all love it, you're just whining" take.

                      To stay on topic, Defense on this game is nerve racking. I feel like I'm constantly struggling to find any consistency, which is probably more accurate of actual NCAA football at the moment. I say play with some sliders and you might be able to find the balance that you had in the past.

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                      • cparrish
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1539

                        #12
                        Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

                        NCAA 13 was clearly better than NCAA 12 and NCAA 14 is better than NCAA 13, so no regression there.
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                        • Jr.
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19171

                          #13
                          Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

                          I actually disagree with the player movement on defense. I got tired of guys controlling the MLB in Madden and covering the entire middle of the field. I love that they've implemented animations for change of direction, though I still think it could be improved. Because of that, though, the movements will be a little laggy. I think it's a necessity and I welcome it.
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                          • Dogslax41
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 1901

                            #14
                            Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

                            Originally posted by cparrish
                            NCAA 13 was clearly better than NCAA 12 and NCAA 14 is better than NCAA 13, so no regression there.
                            The last half of your sentence was correct. The first half, not so much.

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                            • USF11
                              C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4245

                              #15
                              Re: The regression in this generation of NCAA is unbelievable.

                              Originally posted by Baughn3
                              I actually disagree with the player movement on defense. I got tired of guys controlling the MLB in Madden and covering the entire middle of the field. I love that they've implemented animations for change of direction, though I still think it could be improved. Because of that, though, the movements will be a little laggy. I think it's a necessity and I welcome it.
                              Yeah, but the problem as I see it is the same limitations don't effect offensive player movement.

                              I would love to sell the game....but I can't cause I digitally downloaded it on PS3.
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