FIFA 14 Features 19 Officially Licensed Brazilian Clubs

[zjac7]

Editing and licenses aren't mutually exclusive - FIFA has a Creation Centre, but it's not very robust and yet still has a decent number of editors who participate - I'm guessing that upgrading that to something even on par with PES (aka just ok, not earth-shattering) wouldn't cost a ton relative to EA's spending power, and we can also still get the great licenses.

[Yeats]

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Editing and licenses aren't mutually exclusive - FIFA has a Creation Centre, but it's not very robust and yet still has a decent number of editors who participate - I'm guessing that upgrading that to something even on par with PES (aka just ok, not earth-shattering) wouldn't cost a ton relative to EA's spending power, and we can also still get the great licenses.

Well, I've been waiting more than a decade for EA to bring back their custom season and course creation tools in Tiger Woods, and their custom CPU playbooks and season edit options in Madden. So I'm pretty sure we ain't gonna see a robust editor in FIFA any time soon.

EA has always been anal about editing in their games. Even the few editing options they include have many restrictions, such as not being able to edit players' names, appearance, position, etc. And now they're taking that a step further; look at the mind-numbing editing restrictions they implemented with Madden 13 for example. This less-customization-is-more development vision of EA's is something I fear FIFA is going to experience as next-gen arrives.

It's why corporate mouthpieces like Rutter disgust me. Consumers want real and honest info. In contrast, look at how the Konami team is sharing their development vision and progress with consumers in the way of gameplay videos and weekly developer updates. But most of all gamers just want a FIFA game that FINALLY plays like football, and not the child's toy version of the sport EA releases each year. But what do we get instead? Some smiling spin doctor announcing the addition of even more licensed teams. Big whoop there Dave. Spoon-feeding pablum to the masses; there's nobody better at it than Rutter and EA.

Yet another year of the same old arcade FIFA with even more players and teams that play like exact clones of each other, even as EA continues to limit and restrict our ability to fix and repair their games via editing and customization. Yippee.

[NightmareBooster]

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Building on what Yeats said I feel like the possibility exists that the lack of customization options may be a trade off of having the licenses. The developers may have the desire to add options for customizability but FIFA doesn't want their product being altered or portrayed in a way other than what it is. It reminds me of what happened with Gran Turismo 4 where Polyhony wanted to add deformation but the manufacturers didn't want their cars getting all beat up in-game. The result was that you could take a 130 mph lickin' and keep on tickin'. I'm not definitively saying this is the case, just that with an organization like FIFA it's possible.

[Yeats]

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Building on what Yeats said I feel like the possibility exists that the lack of customization options may be a trade off of having the licenses. The developers may have the desire to add options for customizability but FIFA doesn't want their product being altered or portrayed in a way other than what it is.

Nicely put... nicer than me anyway, ha! Makes sense, but it doesn't explain why EA has removed other customization options from their games over the years: course creation tools, custom season editing, and now with Madden (and soon with FIFA I fear) the inability to use custom rosters in career mode. There's no reason or rhyme for any of that.

[NightmareBooster]

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Nicely put... nicer than me anyway, ha! Makes sense, but it doesn't explain why EA has removed other customization options from their games over the years: course creation tools, custom season editing, and now with Madden (and soon with FIFA I fear) the inability to use custom rosters in career mode. There's no reason or rhyme for any of that.

Yeah, that's just them being *******s

[Supersonic_BR]

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thats great but didnt they have about 10 licensed clubs last year? adding 4 clubs shouldnt be news

Last year we had

Corinthians
Atlético-MG
Cruzeiro
Grêmio
Palmeiras (my team 0
São Paulo
Santos
Flamengo
Vasco
Coritiba
Botafogo

Those are the ones i remember, i think Fluminense was, as well, although i'm not sure.

[Profit89]

Well, I've been waiting more than a decade for EA to bring back their custom season and course creation tools in Tiger Woods, and their custom CPU playbooks and season edit options in Madden. So I'm pretty sure we ain't gonna see a robust editor in FIFA any time soon.

EA has always been anal about editing in their games. Even the few editing options they include have many restrictions, such as not being able to edit players' names, appearance, position, etc. And now they're taking that a step further; look at the mind-numbing editing restrictions they implemented with Madden 13 for example. This less-customization-is-more development vision of EA's is something I fear FIFA is going to experience as next-gen arrives.

It's why corporate mouthpieces like Rutter disgust me. Consumers want real and honest info. In contrast, look at how the Konami team is sharing their development vision and progress with consumers in the way of gameplay videos and weekly developer updates. But most of all gamers just want a FIFA game that FINALLY plays like football, and not the child's toy version of the sport EA releases each year. But what do we get instead? Some smiling spin doctor announcing the addition of even more licensed teams. Big whoop there Dave. Spoon-feeding pablum to the masses; there's nobody better at it than Rutter and EA.

Yet another year of the same old arcade FIFA with even more players and teams that play like exact clones of each other, even as EA continues to limit and restrict our ability to fix and repair their games via editing and customization. Yippee.

Great post.

[Yeats]

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Great post.

Thanks, I know it sounds like I'm a bit too invested in the issue, heh. But the true is I made my peace with all this years ago. I haven't bought Madden or Tiger Woods in several years, and I only returned to FIFA two years ago after buying a gaming PC. For me, EA's games are unplayable without mods and massive edits, something that's at least possible on the PC.

More licensed teams, yay! There... back on topic.

[Profit89]

Thanks, I know it sounds like I'm a bit too invested in the issue, heh. But the true is I made my peace with all this years ago. I haven't bought Madden or Tiger Woods in several years, and I only returned to FIFA two years ago after buying a gaming PC. For me, EA's games are unplayable without mods and massive edits, something that's at least possible on the PC.

More licensed teams, yay! There... back on topic.

Totally agree. Completely unplayable without Mods.

[Profit89]

I think if gamers actually experienced a game with Mods, they would never go back.

I think that's what, in large part, is responsible for EA's fear of PC gaming or any other open platform. They fear the community can do a far better job than them at making the game feel and play better. In this way, we are dependent on them for games that are, in reality, mere roster updates with new marketing buzzwords and catch phrases.

[dahernandez3]

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I'd say only a very small percentage of gamers ever use editing tools. Sports games these days are designed for the online gaming crowd given they make up the vast majority of consumers. EA understands the money is in developing online features, not offline additions like editing tools.

I agree to an extent, but the fact that a game like PES even still exists refute your opinion that only a 'small percentage' use editing tools.

The ability to edit teams/leagues/stadiums/etc in PES is why the game still survives frankly.

[Yeats]

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I agree to an extent, but the fact that a game like PES even still exists refute your opinion that only a 'small percentage' use editing tools.

The ability to edit teams/leagues/stadiums/etc in PES is why the game still survives frankly.

Maybe so, good point. That said, the number of gamers who even play PES anymore is substantially less than those who play FIFA. Have you for example ever compared Forum Viewing totals for both forums here at OS? It's always something like 30-1 in FIFA's favor. I just checked that now as a matter of fact: FIFA 32, PES 0. So that right there says something about peoples' level of interest in PES, and in having a game they can fully edit and customize.

I still say the vast majority gamers today aren't interested in offline editing; they buy games for the online experience, and to play with their favorite players and team. And of those who do play PES, I'd suggest most only bother to install someone's patch in order to have real teams and kits. And I suppose you could call that editing and using editing tools. But the truth is, if those same people could have real teams and kits in PES by default, they'd never bother patching or editing the game. Just checked again: FIFA 40, PES 1.

[MrOctober430]

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Any word on any new leagues?