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  • lord_mike
    Rookie
    • Jul 2008
    • 47

    #31
    Re: O'Bannon Legal Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

    Originally posted by MacDiiddy
    The only thing I really care about, outside of the presence of a college football game is

    if now 2k or some other company can jump on in and make their version as well. IDK if this is even a possibility or if EA is going to make the conferences and award committees sign exclusivity deals with them, I hope not.
    Exclusivity has been banned due to a recent Supreme Court case. Whether 2K Sports would risk it is the question. The whole "player thing" is unresolved. If they don't pay the players and the NCAA loses, then they could be screwed, but they can't go out and preemptively pay the players in the meantime, either. I can't see any way forward but for the gaming companies to simply have teams of fake players (even if it is still called Ohio State) until this is all resolved.

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    • Sundown2600
      Brake less...Go Faster!
      • Jul 2009
      • 1364

      #32
      Re: O'Bannon Legal Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

      Lol at the ppl mad at O'Bannon. Ya'll are funny man

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      • lord_mike
        Rookie
        • Jul 2008
        • 47

        #33
        Re: O'Bannon Legal Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

        Originally posted by Greencollarbaseball
        I can't for the life of me understand how the NCAA or schools don't have a waiver that athletes need to sign that says the school and or NCAA can use their likeness while they are in the athletic programs. It seems like that would have been thought of a long time ago.
        They do. That doesn't mean it's legal.

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        • LastExit
          Rookie
          • Apr 2012
          • 328

          #34
          Re: O'Bannon Defense Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

          Originally posted by JLoco11
          O'Bannon's legal team will beat the likeness argument in court... I can't imagine how he loses that end of the lawsuit.

          Where the lawyers are going to fail, is going to be what compensation amateur athletes are entitled to. When you register with the NCAA (in any sport, not just football), you waive your rights of representation on the universities behalf.

          They can put you on posters, programs, television from games to sports shows, to media guides... and every athlete signs their rights away when they join NCAA division sports.

          O'Bannon and Keller are going to win the battle of likeliness in a game, but they're going to lose the war against the NCAA for signing their rights away. They're going to lose against a system of amateur rules (as unfair as they may be), going back to old Olympic rules that most governing bodies have adopted.
          Agreed - and it seems difficult to see how they will hold EA accountable given the fact that they paid a fee to both the NCAA and the other licensing agency each year. If the NCAA, which makes the rules, wasn't finding fault in what they were doing and they are the governing authority in all of this as far as the student-athletes are concerned then it will be difficult to seek damages against EA.

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          • simgamer0005
            MVP
            • Feb 2010
            • 1778

            #35
            Re: O'Bannon Legal Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

            what are the chances that the NCAA ceases to exist? if you're goin after video games of all things, why stop there O'Bannon? might as well sue ESPN for making all that money covering college football.

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            • K0ZZ
              The Hard Way
              • Dec 2004
              • 3849

              #36
              Re: O'Bannon Defense Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

              Originally posted by goalieump413
              This, of course, has been an increasingly popular discussion across the country. Should student athletes get paid to play (football)? The answer, I think, lies in the scale to which college football has become such a powerfully profitable enterprise. Think about it, EA Sports sells an NCAA football game because college football is huge. They don't sell a college baseball game because college baseball isn't huge. It comes down to market demand.

              This lawsuit is more a catalyst to changing the landscape of money in college athletics than the largely academic debate that's been ongoing. Former players think that they should profit from video game sales, but that only kicks down the door to any other sale of merchandise related to their college playing career. Watch out.
              This is true, this case has extremely wide sweeping ramifications. I've looked into it, and some of it could really be ugly.
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              • K0ZZ
                The Hard Way
                • Dec 2004
                • 3849

                #37
                Re: O'Bannon Legal Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

                Originally posted by simgamer0005
                what are the chances that the NCAA ceases to exist? if you're goin after video games of all things, why stop there O'Bannon? might as well sue ESPN for making all that money covering college football.
                That would be the likely next step.
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                • paconaifas
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 35

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Razorback73
                  If O'Bannon wins this lawsuit and college football videogames go away, I'm going to sue him for stealing my potential enjoyment of future videogames. I value the damages as a result of this at no less than $4 million. Anyone else wanna jump in on this?
                  I'm in. Let's sue his sorry ***
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                  • loccdogg26
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 2263

                    #39
                    Re: O'Bannon Legal Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

                    Originally posted by Sundown2600
                    Lol at the ppl mad at O'Bannon. Ya'll are funny man
                    Amen to that. Grown people getting mad over stuff they can't control.
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                    • Retropyro
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 798

                      #40
                      The growth of interest in College Football over the last 20 years is huge, I wonder how many people out their have had their interest in CFB either started or increased because of a video game?
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                      • tbook24
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 93

                        #41
                        another washed out player trying to get another payday.

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                        • tHurley2010
                          Pro
                          • May 2011
                          • 542

                          #42
                          Re: O'Bannon Legal Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

                          Originally posted by tbook24
                          another washed out player trying to get another payday.
                          I've never understood this sentiment. Did O'Bannon's and Keller's careers not take off like they had imagined? Yes.

                          But you're also forgetting who else is on that list, names like Oscar Robertson and Bill Russell whose careers certainly weren't washed out.

                          Like it or not, this case has real standing and it'll be up to the courts decide. I'm no more or less unhappy than you are, but I'm not letting that cloud the fact that this case is legitimate.

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                          • Rekkapryde
                            Rookie
                            • May 2003
                            • 474

                            #43
                            Re: O'Bannon Legal Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

                            Originally posted by Sundown2600
                            Lol at the ppl mad at O'Bannon. Ya'll are funny man
                            your life my entertainment....rediculous.

                            crazy how some feel that they are entitled to their entertainment no matter what.

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                            • Kaiser Wilhelm
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 2801

                              #44
                              Re: O'Bannon Defense Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

                              Originally posted by goalieump413
                              This, of course, has been an increasingly popular discussion across the country. Should student athletes get paid to play (football)? The answer, I think, lies in the scale to which college football has become such a powerfully profitable enterprise. Think about it, EA Sports sells an NCAA football game because college football is huge. They don't sell a college baseball game because college baseball isn't huge. It comes down to market demand.

                              This lawsuit is more a catalyst to changing the landscape of money in college athletics than the largely academic debate that's been ongoing. Former players think that they should profit from video game sales, but that only kicks down the door to any other sale of merchandise related to their college playing career. Watch out.
                              Depending on the school they choose, they are already compensated between 15k-100k+ a year, over a three to four year span. I still the fact that college football can hardly be considered interscholastic (focusing on the root word scholar) sports, but if they indeed decide to compensate players beyond their already lofty compensation, I'd hope they would just drop the idea that it is the University of Michigan vs Ohio State University.

                              Make them choose between the scholarship or its monetary equivalent.
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                              • robbel
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 9

                                #45
                                Re: O'Bannon Defense Team Reacts to NCAA Decision

                                Originally posted by JLoco11
                                O'Bannon's legal team will beat the likeness argument in court... I can't imagine how he loses that end of the lawsuit.

                                Where the lawyers are going to fail, is going to be what compensation amateur athletes are entitled to. When you register with the NCAA (in any sport, not just football), you waive your rights of representation on the universities behalf.

                                They can put you on posters, programs, television from games to sports shows, to media guides... and every athlete signs their rights away when they join NCAA division sports.

                                O'Bannon and Keller are going to win the battle of likeliness in a game, but they're going to lose the war against the NCAA for signing their rights away. They're going to lose against a system of amateur rules (as unfair as they may be), going back to old Olympic rules that most governing bodies have adopted.
                                Ah yes, the 'every document you sign is legally binding' and 'just because that's the way it's always been' arguments. Those will absolutely help the NCAA...

                                The NCAA has no case here. They bring in almost a billion dollars a year in large part due to student athletes. It's just a matter of time before these athletes receive a cut of EVERYTHING sold that bears their likeness or uniform number, which they should.

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