Ugh, Army

[kolson82]

So it appears that Army is this year's version of the Ohio Bobcats from a few years ago (oh, the days when Ohio won like 4 National Titles in a row). I thought my offline dynasties were going perfectly (I mentioned this in another thread), but in my eighth year of my offline dynasty, Army was undefeated and ranked #4 in like week 9...they ended up losing to Air Force, and so I thought the problem really was fixed...I mean there's no way they get in the National Championship with one loss. I get to the end of the year, and sure enough Army is in the National Championship WITH TWO LOSSES~!

Seriously. I thought this was fixed, but I guess if you end going through enough years in dynasty the annoying tendency of this game to give us ridiculous BCS games and end-of-the-year top 10 continues.

A 10-2 Army (with no conference championship game, obviously) got in over an 11-2 Auburn team who beat the previous #2 team in the country Tennessee in the SEC championship game.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Hopefully this is a one year thing. I'm tempted just to sim through all of next year to see what the top 10 looks like at the end of the year. This is the first year where there has been a ridiculous team in the top 10 to end the year.

[Shibito]

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So you're saying that Army can never be good, and a team that doesn't play in a conference championship game should not go over one that does?

Has Army been having sustained success? If so, they probably started ranked higher then Auburn. Ask Alabama how losing a game or 2 keeps you out of the National Championship.

You're giving us very little info on how Army could have got in over Auburn, and you're just saying Army shouldn't be there. What if they actually should be? Just because you don't want them there doesn't mean they shouldn't go.

[GruffyMcGuiness]

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So you're saying that Army can never be good, and a team that doesn't play in a conference championship game should not go over one that does?

Has Army been having sustained success? If so, they probably started ranked higher then Auburn. Ask Alabama how losing a game or 2 keeps you out of the National Championship.

You're giving us very little info on how Army could have got in over Auburn, and you're just saying Army shouldn't be there. What if they actually should be? Just because you don't want them there doesn't mean they shouldn't go.

No. Army shouldn't be that good nor should they be in the NC. You should have to win a conference to be in the championship.

Also, Navy is tearing it up in my OD. they're #4 and just beat ND so may be moving up even more...

[hock0413]

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No. Army shouldn't be that good nor should they be in the NC. You should have to win a conference to be in the championship.

Notre dame last year?

[GruffyMcGuiness]

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Notre dame last year?

How did that turn out for them? At least in the B1G OSU would have spanked them or they wouldn't have made it to the championship at all. Same with Clemson/FSU in the ACC

I don't mind smaller schools becoming good, but the academy schools doing it bugs me.

[RammerJammer1674]

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Notre dame last year?

Not sure what game you watched, but ND was NEVER "in it" when they played 'Bama. :wink:

[canesfins]

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There's strong, then there's Army Strong

[Shibito]

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How did that turn out for them? At least in the B1G OSU would have spanked them or they wouldn't have made it to the championship at all. Same with Clemson/FSU in the ACC

I don't mind smaller schools becoming good, but the academy schools doing it bugs me.

Most people said Oklahoma was going to spank Notre Dame last year as well. We can play should of, could of all day with any team.

Back on topic though, A 10-2 Army team could certainly be in the National Championship discussion depending on who they played and how other teams finished their seasons. If you don't want the service academies being capable of becoming that good, you can replace them with TB teams or nerf them.

[The JareBear]

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There's strong, then there's Army Strong

lollllll, nice

Navy is tearing it up on my dyn as well, ranked every year

[Shibito]

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lollllll, nice

Navy is tearing it up on my dyn as well, ranked every year

Navy has sustained success in most of my dynasties as well, especially with their future move into the American Conference.

[Zac]

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This is why I move all Independents into a conference, but Notre Dame.

[dingleberryfinn]

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Maybe the draft has been reinstituted & they can "take"
whatever recruits they want lol

[Wildcats302]

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Notre dame last year?

And Alabama in 2011 and Nebraska in 2001. Not sure if there is another time or not.

[kolson82]

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I don't mean to suggest Army could never be good. I just found this particular scenario odd. I just don't see how a 10-2 Army team that doesn't play in a conference--and are therefore padding their schedule with FCS teams or bad WAC teams--gets in over a team that won their conference championship against the #2 team in the nation. Auburn ended up #3 at 11-2 while Army ended up #2 at 10-2. They ended up losing in the National Championship 37-7. I just hope this doesn't mean that Army will start going undefeated every year and pulling in top 10 recruiting classes.

I will say that so far the recruiting seems to be way more even, and it's creating a lot more competitive games within conferences. No more teams pulling in 10+ 5* recruits.

[kolson82]

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This is why I move all Independents into a conference, but Notre Dame.

Yeah, I did that last year. I can't remember which team it was last year that was always going undefeated, but it seems like that once one gets deep enough into a dynasty, this scenario pops up with every iteration of NCAA Football.

Looks like I may need to do what you're suggesting again this year.