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Old 08-01-2013, 06:30 PM   #5
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Re: Sliders/Theories, etc - approach it with evidence thread

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Originally Posted by Oraeon1224
I have already tested this in the past. I would also caution interpreting results from your video. It is 100% correct that at 95 you won't see a big difference in pass coverage (I can't tell a WR/CB difference at 0 or 100)depending on your focus. At high threshold ratings the SD from the mean value is narrowed. This causes minimal changes to WR and CB coverages for similarly rated teams since changing the SD from the mean for players who are already the same SD from the mean results in an equal shift. It does however have several unintended consequences on the game. Since it objectively increases LB speed and TE speed it may result in atypical results (i.e. a TE not being run down by a cornerback after a missed tackle by a LB).

While higher settings do not change the appearance of similarly rated players--a TE covered by a LB will appear unchanged. Discrepant coverages are not as advantageous (LB covering a WR) as at a lower setting. This also removes some of the differences seen between teams. A team with 70 SPD/ACC LB covering a team with 88 SPD/ACC TEs will not be blown away as in real life.

The other consequence of 0 or 100 threshold sets is that by severely altering SPD ratings of slower players you deconstruct the safety valves of the defense. On 100 fairly fast players who break blocks would usually be run down from behind by a safety or CB. You will see bad pursuit angles and run downs at 100. Similarly if you set to 0 you will see CB able to run down these players more easily. Much harder to assess is the impact on acceleration (at threshold of 100) on defensive linemen rushing the quarterback and LB closing on running backs which may impact the passing/sack statistics or result in more tackles for a loss.

Bottom line: Threshold does have minimal impact on pass coverage but does impact running and post catch results, and possibly on pass rush (never tested that myself).
I want to keep this as an evidence based thread, man. I respect your thoughts and considerable data - but we play the game with our eyes, using video; there is no other way to prove to the masses how something works without doing so.

Fwiw - threshold has a significant impact on pass coverage. It's going to be some digging, but I will show you the difference from a couple weeks ago when we switched from 40 thresh to 95.

Moving forward - please, everyone, include video (even picture if can't find video) when you make an initial assessment or response. This has potential to be a very good thread, and not just for this year's game - but whatever comes next.
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