How has Michigan not retired Charles Woodson's number!

[Kingdawgydawg]

I am a diehard USC fan and this baffles me still.

Any Mich fans know the reason?


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[GruffyMcGuiness]

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I am a diehard USC fan and this baffles me still.

Any Mich fans know the reason?


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Doesn't look like they retire numbers just for someone being a good player. http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-foot...061209aaa.html

Most of these guys did something significant outside of football.

[Mr_McGibblets90]

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Michigan doesn't retire numbers. They honor them. The player wearing that number now will have a patch on their jersey honoring the Michigan legend who originally wore that number

[GoBeavers]

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Yep exactly what he said, they do not retire numbers but honor the player who wore that number with a patch on the jersey.

[JrueToTheGame]

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Wow, much respect to Michigan for that actually (From an FSU fan) I wish more teams did it that way, soon we're going to be running out of numbers! lol

[BigMoneyAllDay]

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I never saw the point of retiring numbers. Does it really matter if the Eagles have another #5 or ther is another Packer with the #4?

[TypicalPhenom]

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Desmond Howard's #21 was the first number to get a patch. The biggest tradition at Michigan previously was the #1. There's a strong history of top wide recievers and it was very significant to be awarded that number. Braylon Edwards even started a scholarship fund of some sort going to whatever WR earned the #1. Rich Rod nearly ruined that whole thing (like everything else), but I believe it's still in tact.

A couple other schools have similar traditions. Most notable I think is the #44 at Syracuse before they finally retired it.

I don't like retiring numbers, I definitely think they should become traditions, numbers that are earned, not just given.

[sikolec]

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Bobby Hauck at UNLV implemented a new tradition for the "Battle Born No. 36."

From their website: "No. 36 - complete with a patch of the state flag on the back - is worn by a Nevadan who best exemplifies the Battle Born spirit of his state, which was the 36th state to join the union, and the toughness and pride of Rebel Football."

It's a pretty cool idea and I remember having a lot of fun with it in a dynasty I did a couple years ago, where I would follow the same idea giving No. 36 to my best senior Nevadan (typically on defense).

[StormJH1]

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Desmond Howard's #21 was the first number to get a patch. The biggest tradition at Michigan previously was the #1. There's a strong history of top wide recievers and it was very significant to be awarded that number. Braylon Edwards even started a scholarship fund of some sort going to whatever WR earned the #1. Rich Rod nearly ruined that whole thing (like everything else), but I believe it's still in tact.

A couple other schools have similar traditions. Most notable I think is the #44 at Syracuse before they finally retired it.

I don't like retiring numbers, I definitely think they should become traditions, numbers that are earned, not just given.

(Disclaimer: I'm a biased Michigan alum and fan )

It actually goes a step further than mentioned so far. They started the thing with the patches (which I think is pretty cool), but then last year, they also did a weekly thing where a player would "honor" one of the alums by changing his number to that honored number mid-season. For example, Jordan Kovacs was a 4-year safety (and former walk-on) who always wore #32. In the middle of last season, he switched to #11 to honor the Wistert brothers, three brothers who played tackle for Michigan and were All-Americans. They wear the new number and a Legends patch. If they already had that number, they just wear the patch.

Here's some other examples of that:

-- Senior receiver Roy Roundtree is wearing Desmond Howard's No. 21
-- Sophomore linebacker Jake Ryan is wearing Bennie Oosterbaan's No. 47
-- Senior tight end Brandon Moore is wearing Ron Kramer's No. 87
-- Sophomore linebacker Desmond Morgan is wearing Gerald Ford's No. 48

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2012/11/michigan_safety_jordan_kovacs_4.html

(Pretty sure Morgan also changed his number from #44 for this reason).

I think it's a cool "new" tradition, but I'm not really big on changing numbers mid-season. It's a little disruptive for fans and on TV who don't keep up with the weekly changes, and identify players by number. But college numbers really should not be retired - not when programs use basically every number from 1-99. You even see duplicates of the same number on offense and defense in a lot of schools.

Michigan also doesn't have a mascot, which is another question I get all the time as an out-of-state fan. (Indiana doesn't have one either, there may be other Big Ten teams that don't). I'd hate if we had a Wolverine/Teddy Bear looking thing running around on the sidelines - that would be just wrong.

[cbc72]

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Come on. You can get a Wolverine mascot similar to our Bucky. They'd be like brothers separated at birth and raised to hate each other. :-)

Beats the heck out of the alternative of a live wolverine on the sidelines.

Serious liability issues there.

[Bloodhound79]

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I think the reason you saw the number switches mid-season was that this was the initial implementation of the program to honor jersey numbers, outside of the #21 which they did the year prior. They started un-retiring numbers and then honoring the deceased players and their surviving family members with un-retiring ceremonies one at time, as a player, for the first time since the original player, was now going to wear the number. They got the blessing from each of the retired players/retired player's family, before un-retiring the numbers. I think that from now on, those honor-numbers would be in place at the beginning of the year.

(Disclaimer: I'm a biased Michigan alum and fan )

It actually goes a step further than mentioned so far. They started the thing with the patches (which I think is pretty cool), but then last year, they also did a weekly thing where a player would "honor" one of the alums by changing his number to that honored number mid-season. For example, Jordan Kovacs was a 4-year safety (and former walk-on) who always wore #32. In the middle of last season, he switched to #11 to honor the Wistert brothers, three brothers who played tackle for Michigan and were All-Americans. They wear the new number and a Legends patch. If they already had that number, they just wear the patch.

Here's some other examples of that:

-- Senior receiver Roy Roundtree is wearing Desmond Howard's No. 21
-- Sophomore linebacker Jake Ryan is wearing Bennie Oosterbaan's No. 47
-- Senior tight end Brandon Moore is wearing Ron Kramer's No. 87
-- Sophomore linebacker Desmond Morgan is wearing Gerald Ford's No. 48

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2012/11/michigan_safety_jordan_kovacs_4.html

(Pretty sure Morgan also changed his number from #44 for this reason).

I think it's a cool "new" tradition, but I'm not really big on changing numbers mid-season. It's a little disruptive for fans and on TV who don't keep up with the weekly changes, and identify players by number. But college numbers really should not be retired - not when programs use basically every number from 1-99. You even see duplicates of the same number on offense and defense in a lot of schools.

Michigan also doesn't have a mascot, which is another question I get all the time as an out-of-state fan. (Indiana doesn't have one either, there may be other Big Ten teams that don't). I'd hate if we had a Wolverine/Teddy Bear looking thing running around on the sidelines - that would be just wrong.

[BJNT]

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Come on. You can get a Wolverine mascot similar to our Bucky. They'd be like brothers separated at birth and raised to hate each other. :-)

Beats the heck out of the alternative of a live wolverine on the sidelines.

Serious liability issues there.

Take it a step futher. They should call Marvel and see if they will let them use the Wolverine as their mascot. Maybe even have Hugh Jackman be their honorary guest for one of their games.

[movethechains11]

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I like the honoring the players with a patch but if a 3 year all American switches his number to one that is being honored how will they honor him years later?

[Kingdawgydawg]

Take it a step futher. They should call Marvel and see if they will let them use the Wolverine as their mascot. Maybe even have Hugh Jackman be their honorary guest for one of their games.

Oregon used to have permission to use Donald Duck from Disney...so it could happen...


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[kehlis]

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I am a diehard USC fan and this baffles me still.

Any Mich fans know the reason?


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