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  • TurboTitan
    Pro
    • Jun 2004
    • 805

    #1

    Defending the QB scramble

    Anyone else having a helluva time stopping the QB any time they decide to scramble.....especially to the right? I'm not just talking on read option plays, but any play when you get a little pressure on the QB and he takes off. Even if its not a "fast" QB I am continually getting burned. I have tried every combination of man, zone, zone blitz, etc. the only thing that seems to work descent is if I blitz both OLB, but that isn't feasible to do that often. It is almost like when the CPU QB scrambles, my defense takes FOREVER to respond. Anyone else experiencing this? Any D packages you have found that help,tone it down?

    Thank you!
  • LastExit
    Rookie
    • Apr 2012
    • 328

    #2
    Re: Defending the QB scramble

    Originally posted by TurboTitan
    Anyone else having a helluva time stopping the QB any time they decide to scramble.....especially to the right? I'm not just talking on read option plays, but any play when you get a little pressure on the QB and he takes off. Even if its not a "fast" QB I am continually getting burned. I have tried every combination of man, zone, zone blitz, etc. the only thing that seems to work descent is if I blitz both OLB, but that isn't feasible to do that often. It is almost like when the CPU QB scrambles, my defense takes FOREVER to respond. Anyone else experiencing this? Any D packages you have found that help,tone it down?

    Thank you!
    I don't remember which package it is but there are formations that include a spy. So far the only thing I've found to help is to let the CPU control my defense until either the QB decides to throw the ball or makes a move to scramble.....in that case I play the spy and make sure I'm in front of the QB at all times.

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    • StoneCalf
      Data Logger
      • Jul 2002
      • 569

      #3
      Re: Defending the QB scramble

      I usually control the LE, and I make sure that he has good (relative) acceleration and speed. If I'm playing against a QB who likes to take off, I usually sit in a spy position and make a bee-line for him when he decides to scramble. I can usually catch him before he makes the line of scrimmage almost half the time, unless he's an above average athlete.
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      • BrockOchoGOAT
        Rookie
        • Jun 2012
        • 155

        #4
        Re: Defending the QB scramble

        You have to Spy. If that isn't working, double spy. It is not as bad as it sounds. The spys will double as shallow hook zones in the middle of the field, and can turn into deeper zones if you put zone coverage on aggressive.

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        • OneDayJD
          Rookie
          • Jul 2010
          • 18

          #5
          Re: Defending the QB scramble

          Not to echo, but definitely use a spy. When the game is loading I always look at the star players and if they have a QB with significant rushing stats, I almost always put a spy on him unless I am blitzing a bunch of guys. A lot of times if I want to run a defense that doesn't have a spy built in I just manually do it. But I don't take someone off coverage to do it. For example, I'll run a 3-man front cover 2 man with the will-LB crashing inside (bringing 4 instead of 3 rushers) and I will just hot route that will-LB to a spy instead of having him rush inside. Yes, that gives you one less pass rusher, but that will lead to him sitting in the pocket longer (if your coverage is good) and inevitably taking off but that's what I want to happen since I have an athletic LB in a spy.

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          • StormJH1
            MVP
            • Jul 2007
            • 1250

            #6
            Re: Defending the QB scramble

            Usually, if I'm having trouble with a team on defense, there's a scrambling quarterback involved. I agree that they are very hard to stop. Even the slow ones seem to take angles that are hard to judge when you bring in a CB or safety.

            Spying is the best answer, but if a FB or guard flies out and picks up that spy, you're still screwed.

            Counterintuitively, I actually think that clogging up the line more with 4-man fronts is a better overall strategy than spying and zones. As we all know, the zone A.I. is largely terrible. Spying leaves defenders in the right place to track a scrambling QB, but if they get through the line, there's no guarantee those zone defenders will go after him.

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            • bflynn10450
              Just started!
              • Jun 2013
              • 3

              #7
              Re: Defending the QB scramble

              What I have found that works is to use the Nickel formation and go with the man blitz with the 2 LBS blitzing. I then make one of the LB's due a QB spy and then I put the other LB out in a Zone out to the flat on the right side. I still get good pressure with my 4 D-Lineman and the spy stops runs up the middle and the flat zone prevents big plays if he gets out of the pocket.

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              • Ampking101
                Pro
                • Sep 2011
                • 724

                #8
                What I found works best is to use a Cover 1 with the QB Spy, then pinch your d-line and put both DEs in a QB contain (you can to this by pressing L1/LB and then pressing up on the RS).

                This way if the QB runs to the outside my DE is most likely to grab him before he breaks off, if he does manage to get away though I have a QB Spy as a second line of defense rather than being my first. If he gets past both, that QB should be a running back.

                If it's an option happy offense, I tend to just blitz both LBs as well, call the run up the middle (L2/LS and down on the right stick) and then show blitz.
                Last edited by Ampking101; 08-02-2013, 11:11 AM.

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                • OneDayJD
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 18

                  #9
                  Re: Defending the QB scramble

                  Originally posted by Ampking101
                  What I found works best is to use a Cover 1 with the QB Spy, then pinch your d-line and put both DEs in a QB contain (you can to this by pressing L1/LB and then pressing up on the RS).

                  This way if the QB runs to the outside my DE is most likely to grab him before he breaks off, if he does manage to get away though I have a QB Spy as a second line of defense rather than being my first. If he gets past both, that QB should be a running back.

                  If it's an option happy offense, I tend to just blitz both LBs as well, call the run up the middle (L2/LS and down on the right stick) and then show blitz.
                  When you say "show blitz" what are you hitting to do that? I used to remember but I forgot and it's damn near impossibru to find that answer online.

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                  • BrockOchoGOAT
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 155

                    #10
                    Re: Defending the QB scramble

                    Originally posted by OneDayJD
                    When you say "show blitz" what are you hitting to do that? I used to remember but I forgot and it's damn near impossibru to find that answer online.
                    Yes. You have to press the "Y" button (triangle for PS3) and then it will bring up all of those kind of pre snap options, including show blitz.

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                    • Ampking101
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 724

                      #11
                      Originally posted by OneDayJD
                      When you say "show blitz" what are you hitting to do that? I used to remember but I forgot and it's damn near impossibru to find that answer online.

                      Yeah I know the feeling, you just hit Y and then the left stick to the left.

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                      • Fist Of Kings
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 793

                        #12
                        Re: Defending the QB scramble

                        Because all the qbs are fast in this game for some reason and love to scramble, my mlb is in qb spy most of the time, rolb the other times, as I control the lolb. This doesn't stop the broken defense, but I've stuffed the scrambling since I've been doing this. Speed still rules in video game football, my mlb's speed is in the 90s.

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                        • boxtrev
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 377

                          #13
                          Re: Defending the QB scramble

                          I didn't want to start another thread, and this is on topic, but regarding the offensive side. Does anyone have any tips on how to scramble or break a big run with the QB? Sometimes I start to run with the ball because it looks like I have a lot of running room but that window closes so quickly. Any way to tell when is the best time to take off and run? Should I run up between the tackles or off to one side? What about running the QB run on options?

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                          • TurboTitan
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 805

                            #14
                            Re: Defending the QB scramble

                            Thanks for all the info guys! Can you audible or make a specific player be a QB spy in any defense, or do you have to specifically pick a defense with a spy already included? Like say, if I pick a Cover 2 zone, can I make my MLB spy the QB even though the play isn't designed that way?

                            Thank you!

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                            • Ampking101
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 724

                              #15
                              Originally posted by boxtrev
                              I didn't want to start another thread, and this is on topic, but regarding the offensive side. Does anyone have any tips on how to scramble or break a big run with the QB? Sometimes I start to run with the ball because it looks like I have a lot of running room but that window closes so quickly. Any way to tell when is the best time to take off and run? Should I run up between the tackles or off to one side? What about running the QB run on options?

                              The QB run on an option is actually extremely easy as long as they aren't bringing the house. It doesn't matter how fast your QB is (I've successfully run the option with a 68 speed QB). You just have to learn to make the correct read. If the read man (the one with the orange R over his head) comes in for the blitz run it with your QB, if he stays on the outside hand it off to the HB (same goes for the shovel and pitch plays). As long as you learn to read the blocks you can get 7 yards a run easy. My advice would be to run the option trainer in the Nike Trainer. It's how I got good at making the reads.

                              Scrambling out of a designed pass on the other hand is a much more difficult. For this you DO need a fast QB. The only times I will run are if there are 3 rushers and everyone else is in coverage (I'll run it up the middle), or if a play breaks down and I find that one side of the field is open I'll scramble to that side and run it once I get to the outside.

                              Hard cuts (using the left stick to quickly change direction) through blocks and trucking are the biggest keys to success when running with the QB.

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