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  • lockdownD
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    • Nov 2011
    • 140

    #166
    Re: NBA 2K14 Blocking Dunks

    Originally posted by Goffs
    If I recall...

    up = flashy
    back = reverse
    forward = straight dunk (regular)
    down = power
    spinning the stick will yield a 360 dunk

    Am I right on this? To this day I still press it accordingly and I don't know why because the dunks are pretty much context now.

    With the new block dunk system in place that useless from dunk to layup move will finally be useful.
    On Xbox 360 it was I believe:

    rt+up = normal/signature dunk
    rt+right = two handed rim hang dunk
    rt+left = hop step dunk
    rt+down = reverse dunk
    rt+down or rt+diagonally away from basket close to paint = 360 dunk

    On PS3 it might of been totally different I'm not sure. Yeah, once in awhile on dunks I still catch myself also pushing the RS to the right, I guess just out of sheer habit from doing it so much in 2k11 lol.

    Hopefully, they add back a more advanced dunk controls system in the game for the sticks. I miss not having the same level of control over my dunks like I used to. The ability to perform signature layup moves like you used to be able to do I hope returns as well.

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    • Ward13
      Rookie
      • Feb 2013
      • 316

      #167
      How can they remove blocks from the game and then bring them back attached to a marketing scheme? 2K sports has gone WAY to mainstream and have little concern with making a COMPLETE simulation game, they are simply giving to eventually take away smh It's not right at all!
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      • Ward13
        Rookie
        • Feb 2013
        • 316

        #168
        Originally posted by juicey79
        The rubberbands are not plain...they have some type of writing on them.
        Nice now make the sneaker fully HD and correct not the reversing art to make the left sneaker.
        The block system looks dope though.
        I think those rubberbands were made specifically for LeBron and wont be available to use. I would never give 2K that much credit seeing as how CAP accessories have only gotten worse over the years and LeBron IS the cover athlete so...
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        • spankdatazz22
          All Star
          • May 2003
          • 6224

          #169
          Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

          Originally posted by Ward13
          How can they remove blocks from the game and then bring them back attached to a marketing scheme? 2K sports has gone WAY to mainstream and have little concern with making a COMPLETE simulation game, they are simply giving to eventually take away smh It's not right at all!
          As has already been said - they didn't remove blocks from the game, and it's unfortunate some of you insist on trying to create that perception. If anything 2K13 improved on the armpit/elbow blocks so many of you complained about in 2K12.

          Another crying point in the forums was the "please remove the canned animations/canimations" push because so many are focused on technology buzzwords around here - which they tried to comply with. The inability to block dunks - not all blocks, as you're trying to imply, was likely a side effect of no longer having as many preset animations play out. Now that they try to let the community they're addressing a concern the community collective had with blocks in 2K13, you try to imply they're "marketing blocks as something new" when they really aren't. As they've said, it's an improvement on what they were doing previously.

          If they said nothing, there would be all types of freaking out concerns fromt he community: "They're not saying they addressed [whatever issue] - may as well assume they didn't/they suck/blah blah blah". They let you know they tried to address a concern so some flip it the opposite way, just so long as it's perceived as a negative. It would seem pretty silly to improve blocks, but intentionally remove the ability to block a dunk.
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          • thedream2k13
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            • Jan 2013
            • 1507

            #170
            Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

            Originally posted by spankdatazz22
            As has already been said - they didn't remove blocks from the game, and it's unfortunate some of you insist on trying to create that perception. If anything 2K13 improved on the armpit/elbow blocks so many of you complained about in 2K12.

            Another crying point in the forums was the "please remove the canned animations/canimations" push because so many are focused on technology buzzwords around here - which they tried to comply with. The inability to block dunks - not all blocks, as you're trying to imply, was likely a side effect of no longer having as many preset animations play out. Now that they try to let the community they're addressing a concern the community collective had with blocks in 2K13, you try to imply they're "marketing blocks as something new" when they really aren't. As they've said, it's an improvement on what they were doing previously.

            If they said nothing, there would be all types of freaking out concerns fromt he community: "They're not saying they addressed [whatever issue] - may as well assume they didn't/they suck/blah blah blah". They let you know they tried to address a concern so some flip it the opposite way, just so long as it's perceived as a negative. It would seem pretty silly to improve blocks, but intentionally remove the ability to block a dunk.
            Bottom line is 2k needs to stop listening to "the community" for once and just concentrate on making the most realistic game they can
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            • thedream2k13
              MVP
              • Jan 2013
              • 1507

              #171
              Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

              Originally posted by spankdatazz22
              As has already been said - they didn't remove blocks from the game, and it's unfortunate some of you insist on trying to create that perception. If anything 2K13 improved on the armpit/elbow blocks so many of you complained about in 2K12.

              Another crying point in the forums was the "please remove the canned animations/canimations" push because so many are focused on technology buzzwords around here - which they tried to comply with. The inability to block dunks - not all blocks, as you're trying to imply, was likely a side effect of no longer having as many preset animations play out. Now that they try to let the community they're addressing a concern the community collective had with blocks in 2K13, you try to imply they're "marketing blocks as something new" when they really aren't. As they've said, it's an improvement on what they were doing previously.

              If they said nothing, there would be all types of freaking out concerns fromt he community: "They're not saying they addressed [whatever issue] - may as well assume they didn't/they suck/blah blah blah". They let you know they tried to address a concern so some flip it the opposite way, just so long as it's perceived as a negative. It would seem pretty silly to improve blocks, but intentionally remove the ability to block a dunk.
              you cant improve on something that was missing from the last game
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              • Da_Czar
                NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                • Jul 2002
                • 5413

                #172
                Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                As has already been said - they didn't remove blocks from the game, and it's unfortunate some of you insist on trying to create that perception. If anything 2K13 improved on the armpit/elbow blocks so many of you complained about in 2K12.

                Another crying point in the forums was the "please remove the canned animations/canimations" push because so many are focused on technology buzzwords around here - which they tried to comply with. The inability to block dunks - not all blocks, as you're trying to imply, was likely a side effect of no longer having as many preset animations play out. Now that they try to let the community they're addressing a concern the community collective had with blocks in 2K13, you try to imply they're "marketing blocks as something new" when they really aren't. As they've said, it's an improvement on what they were doing previously.

                If they said nothing, there would be all types of freaking out concerns fromt he community: "They're not saying they addressed [whatever issue] - may as well assume they didn't/they suck/blah blah blah". They let you know they tried to address a concern so some flip it the opposite way, just so long as it's perceived as a negative. It would seem pretty silly to improve blocks, but intentionally remove the ability to block a dunk.
                What. Sound reason and understanding. THank goodness for the old heads around here. LOL SHEESH
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                • Da_Czar
                  NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5413

                  #173
                  Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                  Originally posted by thedream2k13
                  Bottom line is 2k needs to stop listening to "the community" for once and just concentrate on making the most realistic game they can
                  You been saying this for a minute now Dream. I am starting to consider leaning in your direction.
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                  • RyanFitzmagic
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1959

                    #174
                    Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                    My friend hit me with this feedback:

                    Based on the new shot-blocking engine, since blocked dunks are a big part of it, there should be a dichotomy between Posterizers and Erasers, in that a Posterizer's dunk cannot be blocked by anyone but an Eraser (with the exception of blocks from behind).

                    I love the idea.

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                    • Jrocc23
                      MVP
                      • May 2010
                      • 3216

                      #175
                      Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                      My friend hit me with this feedback:

                      Based on the new shot-blocking engine, since blocked dunks are a big part of it, there should be a dichotomy between Posterizers and Erasers, in that a Posterizer's dunk cannot be blocked by anyone but an Eraser (with the exception of blocks from behind).

                      I love the idea.
                      I thinks it's a terrible idea. Maybe raise the chance of the Eraser blocking it. I would not like just because someone is a Posterizer, it's impossible to block their shots unless you have an Eraser SS. It's not realistic.

                      Players in the NBA that would be considered "Posterizers" have gotten blocked by players that wouldn't be considered an "Eraser".


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                      • RyanFitzmagic
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1959

                        #176
                        Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                        Originally posted by Jrocc23
                        Players in the NBA that would be considered "Posterizers" have gotten blocked by players that wouldn't be considered an "Eraser".
                        Such as who?

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                        • Jrocc23
                          MVP
                          • May 2010
                          • 3216

                          #177
                          Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                          Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                          Such as who?
                          This idea is silly. You basically telling me it's impossible for a "Posterizer" to get blocked by someone in the NBA not labeled a "Eraser"? Like its a someone should have a 0% chance?

                          Man, it's so many ways I can go w/ this. Say 2K keeps the limit to 5 SS's. Lets look at LeBron. He doesn't have "Eraser", you telling me every person in the NBA should just posterize LeBron because he don't have that SS? It's other players that don't have that SS that could easily have it.

                          Ok, videos even though I shouldn't need it because its common sense.

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ebbLQCN3SfQ?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                          Turiaf blocking Kobe's dunk. Knowing the 2K insider, in 2009, could have made Kobe a "Posterizer". So in 2K this definitely shouldn't happen.

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/NBIvYh2f65E?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                          Hickson blocking the poster boy himself, Blake Griffin. Hickson isn't a "Eraser".

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/i4W7f2Zk-qw?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                          Okafor blocks Stoudemires dunk. Okafor isn't an "Eraser" in 2K13 and Stoudemire is a "Posterizer".

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/S4xH2ZWtOcM?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                          Bledsoe blocking JR Smith. You telling me this cannot possibly happen to a "Posterizer"? I believe JR Smith could be labeled a "Posterizer" by the 2K insider. Even though he isn't, JR Smith is close to that and is getting blocked by a 6'1" PG

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ZAtYl3luh7U?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                          Faried blocking Westbrook. Faried currently doesn't have "Eraser" (which he should imo), cannot block a "Posterizers" dunk because he doesn't have the SS? Westbrook is one of the most athletic players in the NBA, he could put you on a poster easily but he doesn't have, just like LeBron doesn't but we both know they are.

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/VZ-_p6qnCnI?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                          Tim Duncan blocks Blake Griffin. Timmy currently isn't labeled an "Eraser".

                          <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/fzTqse1u1N0?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                          Haslem blocks Kobe. In 2008, Kobe could've gotten the "Posterizer" but Haslem blocked his dunk and never been an "Eraser".

                          Just look for yourself and I am sure many more happened over NBA history. Saying it should be impossible is asinine.

                          Like he said:

                          <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Wcz_kDCBTBk?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                          Last edited by Jrocc23; 08-11-2013, 11:21 AM.
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                          • yungsta404
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 549

                            #178
                            Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                            eraser is just a type of shot blocker that tries to spike the ball as hard as possible and send it to the 5th row instead of keeping it inbounds. Guys like javale mcgee and deandre jordan are notorious for doing that.

                            They are not necessarily better blockers than non eraser shot blockers like a tim duncan or a bill russell who block shots and try to keep it inbounds and tip it to a teammate. They are just flashier.

                            Eraser to shot blocking is the equivalent of highlight reel to dunking so it doesnt make sense to only give erasers the ability to block posterizers.

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                            • RyanFitzmagic
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                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1959

                              #179
                              Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                              Lets look at LeBron. He doesn't have "Eraser", you telling me every person in the NBA should just posterize LeBron because he don't have that SS?

                              Since when are the only two options here "Block dunk" and "Get posterized"? FOH.

                              Turiaf blocking Kobe's dunk. Knowing the 2K insider, in 2009, could have made Kobe a "Posterizer". So in 2K this definitely shouldn't happen.

                              Stop. Just stop. Kobe was never a posterizer.

                              Faried blocking Westbrook. Faried currently doesn't have "Eraser" (which he should imo), cannot block a "Posterizers" dunk because he doesn't have the SS? Westbrook is one of the most athletic players in the NBA, he could put you on a poster easily but he doesn't have, just like LeBron doesn't but we both know they are.

                              Westbrook is definitely not a posterizer. There are only a few in the league-- Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, maybe Dwight Howard if he returns to form, and that's pretty much it. There's no way you can argue anybody else except maybe healthy Derrick Rose.

                              Bledsoe blocking JR Smith. You telling me this cannot possibly happen to a "Posterizer"? I believe JR Smith could be labeled a "Posterizer" by the 2K insider. Even though he isn't, JR Smith is close to that and is getting blocked by a 6'1" PG

                              You're just playin yourself now. JR Smith is not an amazing in-game dunker. He only dunked period 30 times in 80 games last year. I'll be damned if he's a posterizer.

                              In 2008, Kobe could've gotten the "Posterizer"

                              Stop. He's not Vince Carter. He's not even LeBron James, who I don't think should have Posterizer, since he doesn't look to dunk over people consistently. He finishes layups through contact.

                              Tim Duncan blocks Blake Griffin. Timmy currently is labeled an "Eraser".

                              Then what's your point?

                              Okafor blocks Stoudemires dunk. Okafor isn't an "Eraser" in 2K13 and Stoudemire is a "Posterizer".

                              Too bad that footage ain't from 2013.

                              Hickson blocking the poster boy himself, Blake Griffin. Hickson isn't a "Eraser".

                              Congratulations. You found one anomaly. Anyone who knows logic would realize that a single outlier doesn't make a formula completely inaccurate.

                              Just look for yourself and I am sure many more happened over NBA history. Saying it should be impossible is asinine.

                              Know what else is impossible? Knocking a player down by setting a screen if you don't have "Brick Wall." smfh 2K. jrocc says step ya game up and stop wit that "impossible" ish.

                              They are not necessarily better blockers than non eraser shot blockers like a tim duncan or a bill russell who block shots and try to keep it inbounds and tip it to a teammate. They are just flashier.

                              It's pretty hard to be a "flashy" shot-blocker. Eraser is more about giving the shot-blocker's team momentum and taking momentum from the other team by making emphatic blocks that send a message, which Russell and Duncan did very often. I'd give both of them Eraser in a heartbeat.

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                              • alabamarob
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                #180
                                Re: NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

                                The other half of blocking dunks is calling fouls and recognizing in air contact. If the new game can register a player hacking another mid air and allowing that hack to prevent a dunk or layup animation from playing out as if no contact has occured the the new blocking system will be great. When you swing for a block it should either be a whif if the defender touches nothing, a block if the defender only gets ball, and a hack animation if the defender hits the arms/head/ body of the offensive player. One of 2ks legacy issues is the lack of fouls an inability to register the defenders arm and hand contacting the offensive players body. That is why 2k has limited fouls and to many dunks. The dunks, lack of fouls, and high pip all revolve around this legacy issue.
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