SEC, Pac-12, Big Ten Won't License Trademarks in Future Video Games

[BenGerman]

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Title IX is the problem. If I can't afford a PS4 should you have to buy me one?

Wait, what?

If I am using your likeness to make money (which the NCAA does), would you or would you not feel entitled to some of that money. I know I would. Being a student athlete is the only job in the country that you aren't allowed to make money off of. It's stupid, and just about everyone is beginning to acknowledge that. Like I said, everyone should go check out the Jay Bilas thing from the other day. How is that even fair for those players?

[awill25]

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Which is another thing. If people don't believe schools make money off of their athletes (they do), then you better believe the NCAA does.

It's sickening really.....how much the NCAA makes off of college athletes. Anyone who argues that college athletes should not be financially compensated automatically loses credibility to me. Free education blah blah blah.....If that's the argument then a kid on scholarship in the band should not be allowed to make money using his musical talents while in school. SAME THING! And because the NCAA is a sham, we are going to lose a great video game. It's not EA! The real criminal is the NCAA. I 100% agree with O'Bannon. We are just caught in the crosshairs of a storm!

[ncaa98]

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Right now the NCAA, conferences, schools everyone is scared they are gonna be the next ones sued and are trying to avoid lawyer fees and public humiliation.

[FloorGeneral]

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I got about halfway through page 2, so excuse me if this was addressed already, but the ppl that are blaming, and spewing negative words at Ed O'Bannon are extremely naive and..well, there's other words that come to mind, but I'd probably get a warning for putting them down here.

The point is, you ppl need to get past the fact that you might lose your PRIVILEGE to play a VIDEO GAME, and look at the bigger picture. What's happening with the lawsuit was gonna happen sooner or later, and the fact that it was Ed O'Bannon who had the guts to stand up is neither here nor there. The fact is the NCAA makes boatloads and boatloads of money every year off of "Amateur Athletes", while the players get nothing*.

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Let me be clear: yes, I know that they're getting scholarships for their abilities, and thus, "in theory", getting a free education. But let's be honest: a very large number of football and MCBB players are going to the Alabama's, and LSU's, and Kentucky's, and North Carolina's to play Football or Basketball. They're not there for their academic prowess, and a good number of them don't finish school anyways. Yes, I know there are plenty that do (so please save the angry retorts), but my point is that a majority of these "Amateurs" are going to school strictly their sport, and in the process make their respective schools large amounts of money.

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So with the recent (meaning the past 10-15 years or so) explosion in the popularity of College Athletics (re: Football and Men's Basketball), these players have to sit back and watch the Suits count stacks thanks to their (the players) efforts on the field/court. Call me crazy, but if I were Ed O'Bannon, or Desmond Howard, or Johnny Manziel or whoever, I wouldn't be all that happy either. You play as yourself (and there's no doubt that it is YOU, name or not) in NCAA Football 'XX, and at first you're like "SWEET", but how long does it take for you to notice the sales, and the amount that EA pays to your school, or your organization before you say "huh...they're getting that much? But what about us? WE'RE the ones making all that possible.

I don't wanna start a "to pay, or not to pay" argument, because that's a whole 'nother mess of a topic in itself, but to talk down on someone you don't know for actually standing up for what they believe in, and whittle it down to "greed" is just wrong IMO. Is his motivation greed? Maybe. Is his motivation to expose the hypocrisy that the NCAA has, and continues to perpetuate each and every day? Maybe. Whatever his motivation, I for one applaud him, and if this ordeal does cost us the ability to play a College Football Video Game, then them's the breaks. Instead of blaming O'Bannon, you should instead look at, and thank the NCAA for making this happen. They're the villains (as far as I'm concerned) in this deal.

[mva5580]

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It's sickening really.....how much the NCAA makes off of college athletes. Anyone who argues that college athletes should not be financially compensated automatically loses credibility to me. Free education blah blah blah.....If that's the argument then a kid on scholarship in the band should not be allowed to make money using his musical talents while in school. SAME THING! And because the NCAA is a sham, we are going to lose a great video game. It's not EA! The real criminal is the NCAA. I 100% agree with O'Bannon. We are just caught in the crosshairs of a storm!

I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate points in there, but seriously. What's your solution? I've yet to see an idea that doesn't cause more problems than it solves.

[ncaa98]

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Wait, what?

If I am using your likeness to make money (which the NCAA does), would you or would you not feel entitled to some of that money. I know I would. Being a student athlete is the only job in the country that you aren't allowed to make money off of. It's stupid, and just about everyone is beginning to acknowledge that. Like I said, everyone should go check out the Jay Bilas thing from the other day. How is that even fair for those players?

You miss the point. NCAA football does not use the likeness of the women's gymnastic team.

[phantomremix]

Give me a fully customizable football game with a webpage interface for building team, schools, logos, conferences, player names ect all transferable if you make your creations public (like a teambuilder website on crack)... The ability to have the leagues you build change over the course of their life times. I could set high school rules, College rules, Pro football rules. Create a stadium builder/Generator. I would take this over any licensed games any day.

[Soonerfan09]

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exactly how much money does the "ncaa" make. if you mean universities that is one thing, but the "ncaa" according to what ive seen, only takes about 4 to 5% of the money. put the blame where it belongs, the universities.

[awill25]

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I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate points in there, but seriously. What's your solution? I've yet to see an idea that doesn't cause more problems than it solves.

And I'm not saying I have the solution, but the current model is no longer working. Title IX is a HUGE HUGE problem. The intent of that is abused every single day. Look at all of the male track and field teams across the country that have been eliminated....because of Title IX. And to be honest, Thinking that Alabama and a school like UAB should be on a "level playing field" is also a complete joke. Those schools aren't equal, so why make them equal.

At the end of the day, people have finally figured out the NCAA is a huge cash cow and they aren't having it anymore. And to me, it's a larger problem the way it is than the way it could be.......Like Bama, LSU, and the boys arent paying kids already.....I hope no one believes that.

[awill25]

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exactly how much money does the "ncaa" make. if you mean universities that is one thing, but the "ncaa" according to what ive seen, only takes about 4 to 5% of the money. put the blame where it belongs, the universities.

March Madness made over 1 billion last year......And I promise the Unviersites arent collecting that much in royalties.....I work at one.

[Swamp Swagger]

Couldn't we end all of this if we just pay the players? It's starting to get a little silly as to how far we are willing to go just to avoid paying players.

No, and its not that simple as simply handing out some cash. Not every player is a star and many many players sit on the bench.

Not to mention not all schools are just flowing with money like the big ones are. Maryland just as a example lost 20 something million dollars last year and are in debt just like many other schools.

That all being said it sure seems to be a sad day for the college football game. I've been playing there games as far back as I can remember good or bad

[GisherJohn24]

Team creator and roster share fixes all problems with this or am I missing something?

[Soonerfan09]

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playing devils advocate here but if these schools that are cutting track and field programs took some money away from football couldnt they then afford track and field

[mva5580]

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And to be honest, Thinking that Alabama and a school like UAB should be on a "level playing field" is also a complete joke. Those schools aren't equal, so why make them equal.

Here in lies the problem with the whole thing. The first question people have to ask is do you WANT them to be "equal?" Because if the answer is yes, then you can't do down the route of paying players. Ever. Because once you get into that, it's game over for the smaller schools. Any kind of system put in place to compensate players outside of a scholarship will open up so many loop-holes, so many ways for people to work around it, etc, that the schools with unlimited funds and unlimited network of boosters, alumni, and whatever else will just completely run over the schools who don't have that.

Now if someone is of the opinion that you don't care whether or not things are trying to be equal....then so be it. But at that point you're essentially talking about squeezing out close to half of the teams that are in the NCAA right now (football) and the rest basically being told "You can't play with us anymore." So are people ok with that? Would they care if the SEC/Big 12/Big 10/ACC/Pac 12/Notre Dame essentially split from the NCAA and formed their own football league and started paying their players? If you answer Yes to that, then I guess all options are on the table in regards to paying players. If you answer No to that.....then I'm just not seeing a pay-for-play system that solves more problems than it creates.

[lere2001]

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It's sickening really.....how much the NCAA makes off of college athletes. Anyone who argues that college athletes should not be financially compensated automatically loses credibility to me. Free education blah blah blah.....If that's the argument then a kid on scholarship in the band should not be allowed to make money using his musical talents while in school. SAME THING! And because the NCAA is a sham, we are going to lose a great video game. It's not EA! The real criminal is the NCAA. I 100% agree with O'Bannon. We are just caught in the crosshairs of a storm!

It's not just that the NCAA is capitalizing on the player's assets, aren't the student athletes capitalizing on the NCAA's assets as well? Training facilities, meals via professional nutritionists, exposure and media attention (Which is huge), and a platform to propel themselves into professional sports. They don't need to play college sports? If they want to get paid and play football after high school, the CFL doesn't have an age requirement. If they want to get paid and play basketball, the Italian Leagues don't either. And after that they can enter the NFL/NBA draft. The biggest asset playing college ball gives you is that exposure that is more valuable than anything. They need to stop complaining.