SEC, Pac-12, Big Ten Won't License Trademarks in Future Video Games

[GisherJohn24]

For those of you that are wishing for a fully customizable game, what makes you think that's actually going to happen? Or are we all just trying to hope for the best here and pretend EA...well, nevermind.

Roster share and create a team would solve all problems. IMO. Call me crazy but that seems like the easiest solution even if every conference backed out.

[The_Rick_14]

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Could all this mean we will finally get an NCAA basketball game again?

More likely means the exact opposite.

[tessl]

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I see it more as an inconvenience than something which will prevent EA from releasing a game next year. While authentic logos are nice they aren't the reason I play the game. Release a game with some generic teams in various cities and states with the same options they have now, custom conferences etc.

Hopefully the NCAA and the conferences are smart enough to realize what great advertising this game is for their sport and how many young people get interested in college football because of this game.

[SpartyParty11]

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Could all this mean we will finally get an NCAA basketball game again?

Nope, NCAA has the license for March Madness. So it'll be called College Basketball but none of the NCAA logos will be on it. NCAA didn't have that much effect on the football games since none of the NCAA logos were clearly visible during the game, but in basketball, it's at center court.

As for football, yes, the CLC renews its contract with EA but some of the bigger name colleges were not part of the CLC as in Ohio State, I believe Oregon, but don't quote me, Michigan State and USC

[bwiggy33]

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EA may have to call the PES team about their editing system, or give users the opportunity to edit all teams on team builder so they can make jerseys, stadiums, rosters, etc accurate. To me that's the only way to give the opportunity to the user to make the game almost 100% authentic. Even though it would take a huge community effort, users could probably do a better job than EA with jerseys and what not.

[sbunce5]

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Roster share and create a team would solve all problems. IMO. Call me crazy but that seems like the easiest solution even if every conference backed out.

Release a game with some generic teams in various cities and states with the same options they have now, custom conferences etc.

EA may have to call the PES team about their editing system, or give users the opportunity to edit all teams on team builder so they can make jerseys, stadiums, rosters, etc accurate. To me that's the only way to give the opportunity to the user to make the game almost 100% authentic. Even though it would take a huge community effort, users could probably do a better job than EA with jerseys and what not.

I'm all for a totally customizable game next year, don't get me wrong. But let's not be blind fools guys. EA had no problem cutting their losses with NCAA Basketball, MVP Baseball, NBA Live to an extent, and many other games. What makes this franchise any different? Anyone with half a brain knows a fully customizable game won't sell as good as a licensed game.

With the remaining conferences also dropping out on the horizon, then followed by individual schools, I just don't see a game coming out next year. With EA's history, it just seems all but confirmed that they'll drop the game if it's going to be mainly generic schools.

[prowler]

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I'm all for a totally customizable game next year, don't get me wrong. But let's not be blind fools guys. EA had no problem cutting their losses with NCAA Basketball, MVP Baseball, NBA Live to an extent, and many other games. What makes this franchise any different? Anyone with half a brain knows a fully customizable game won't sell as good as a licensed game.

With the remaining conferences also dropping out on the horizon, then followed by individual schools, I just don't see a game coming out next year. With EA's history, it just seems all but confirmed that they'll drop the game if it's going to be mainly generic schools.

Pretty much this. Look at EA's portfolio; this is not a company known for taking chances with new IPs, they take proven commodities and milk them dry. With all the hurdles they'd need to clear to release a college football game, NCAA is officially dry. And this is coming from someone who loves Teambuilder and would love the idea of a fully customizable game.

[JLoco11]

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I'm all for a totally customizable game next year, don't get me wrong. But let's not be blind fools guys. EA had no problem cutting their losses with NCAA Basketball, MVP Baseball, NBA Live to an extent, and many other games. What makes this franchise any different? Anyone with half a brain knows a fully customizable game won't sell as good as a licensed game.

With the remaining conferences also dropping out on the horizon, then followed by individual schools, I just don't see a game coming out next year. With EA's history, it just seems all but confirmed that they'll drop the game if it's going to be mainly generic schools.

I agree with certain parts of that... in particular EA knowing when to cut their losses. NCAA Basketball wasn't selling well, Live was getting killed in reviews and sales and desperately needed an overhaul, so they took a few years to re-work the game.

But MVP Baseball was a different issue. They lost MLB exclusivity to 2K (one of the reasons EA tried buying Take Two Interactive a few years ago was to get that license, and big game properties to their roster).

After they lost MLB, they tried a college baseball game, built on the same engine as MVP... while it was smooth, it didn't catch on since college baseball isn't a big seller. They cut their losses after 1 release.

[ndfan1993]

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Someone with a better understanding of this whole lawsuit can correct me but is this not bigger than just gaming? I mean E$PN makes a ton of money off of college football and features players by name in their promo's which generate revenue. Does this also not mean that they could be on the hook? What about conferences?

I guess the bigger question is where does this end?

[bwiggy33]

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I'm all for a totally customizable game next year, don't get me wrong. But let's not be blind fools guys. EA had no problem cutting their losses with NCAA Basketball, MVP Baseball, NBA Live to an extent, and many other games. What makes this franchise any different? Anyone with half a brain knows a fully customizable game won't sell as good as a licensed game.

I totally understand they have no problem cutting ties. I'm speaking as if they will keep the game. If they keep the game they will have to add something for the user to edit the game otherwise the interest will not be there. If they add in a great editor though that would be huge. Either way it seems like an absolute mess. Some teams licensed and others not. Possibly a couple conferences licensed and all the big ones not. Just absolutely stupid. It's making me want to pick up 14 just because there may not be a game for a while.

[nortobc]

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For those of you that are wishing for a fully customizable game, what makes you think that's actually going to happen? Or are we all just trying to hope for the best here and pretend EA...well, nevermind.

Why wouldn't they do that. If they would have just done this in the first place, this whole lawsuit would have been avoided.

[nortobc]

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I see it more as an inconvenience than something which will prevent EA from releasing a game next year. While authentic logos are nice they aren't the reason I play the game. Release a game with some generic teams in various cities and states with the same options they have now, custom conferences etc.

Hopefully the NCAA and the conferences are smart enough to realize what great advertising this game is for their sport and how many young people get interested in college football because of this game.

Exactly. My favorite part of the game in dynasty mode, so after a few season, I don't care about the players likeness because they are all new created players anyway.

[BadAssHskr]

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I'm all for a totally customizable game next year, don't get me wrong. But let's not be blind fools guys. EA had no problem cutting their losses with NCAA Basketball, MVP Baseball, NBA Live to an extent, and many other games. What makes this franchise any different? Anyone with half a brain knows a fully customizable game won't sell as good as a licensed game.

With the remaining conferences also dropping out on the horizon, then followed by individual schools, I just don't see a game coming out next year. With EA's history, it just seems all but confirmed that they'll drop the game if it's going to be mainly generic schools.

I don't see this so much as cutting a loss. NCAA football is a huge game.

This is kind of the o'bannon case winning. they haven't even settled, and it's looking to close down an entire franchise.

An entire division of EA sports is, as we know it today, on life support.

[richiesbx137]

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With the loss of the big conferences... I do not care what anyone says, this will be a massive (I repeat) massive blow to the series, I do not think every school will sign and if that happens the whole franchise goes down with it...Also they make millions (maybe billions) off the series and if one team drops. I will not be a buy the game regardless what happens. Its all or nothing. And it will be hundreds of millions to the billion dollar range if they lose it.

Also, I smell this case goes to the supreme court as well and that being shot down. Because it will affect ALL the college including ones in the game and in this country as a whole. Even the NCAA is in trouble and might not exist as well. It can go that direction as well. That is way I feel on this. A bit overblown but no one wins regardless.

[sbunce5]

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But MVP Baseball was a different issue. They lost MLB exclusivity to 2K (one of the reasons EA tried buying Take Two Interactive a few years ago was to get that license, and big game properties to their roster).

After they lost MLB, they tried a college baseball game, built on the same engine as MVP... while it was smooth, it didn't catch on since college baseball isn't a big seller. They cut their losses after 1 release.

Exactly. I was referring to the MVP franchise as a whole. There's a reason they haven't picked it back up. It's EA.

Why wouldn't they do that. If they would have just done this in the first place, this whole lawsuit would have been avoided.

Because that's not what EA does. They've never done that and it's all but confirmed that they never will. The only creating tool they have left is Teambuilder. They've basically watered down every other creating mechanism in all other games because that's not what they market. They market realism, player/team likeness, atmosphere, etc.

We're getting our hopes up thinking they'll release a fully customizable game. If the snowball continues to roll downhill, the only game EA will release, if they even do, with be a generic game with the same amount of customization that we already have. Maybe a tad bit more if we're lucky.

I don't see this so much as cutting a loss. NCAA football is a huge game.

Right. I was referring more to the fact EA won't continue with the franchise. Not that they're cutting their losses exactly.