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  • juggalotusx
    Pro
    • Apr 2009
    • 730

    #1

    3rd string can still play against 1st.

    put the packers 3rd stringers in on both sides and my results were this.
    3rd string qb for packs made a few short throws and could not throw down field unless he wanted int or a player was wide open, which was a good sign.

    1st string Seattle D could not get through the line though at all against all O line players in there 60s. Very sad to see this.

    Lynch could not run at all, had very tough time getting through and breaking tackles.
    3rd string wide recievers still caught the ball decent enough and I even had TEs in at wr in the 50s.

    Wilson still threw 2 picks against bad cbs and safteys.

    Was using roadmans sliders.
    Has anyone other than me tried this yet and what results did you get?
    Last edited by juggalotusx; 08-15-2013, 07:30 PM.
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    • Aug 2011
    • 5993

    #2
    Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

    I put an OL at TE for GB and noticed he released off the line, ran routes and performed after the catch on par with any other athletic TE. Didn't behave at all like a 300+ pound lineman.

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    • JaZart
      Rookie
      • Aug 2011
      • 68

      #3
      Originally posted by juggalotusx
      put the packers 3rd stringers in on both sides and my results were this.
      3rd string qb for packs made a few short throws and could not throw down field unless he wanted int or a player was wide open, which was a good sign.

      1st string Seattle D could not get through the line though at all against all O line players in there 60s. Very sad to see this.

      Lynch could not run at all, had very tough time getting through and breaking tackles.
      3rd string wide recievers still caught the ball decent enough and I even had TEs in at wr in the 50s.

      Wilson still threw 2 picks against bad cbs and safteys.

      Was using roadmans sliders.
      Has anyone other than me tried this yet and what results did you get?
      What was the difficulty on? This isn't good but it's not like you will ever play vs 3rd stringers? It does tell you that difficulty>ratings as far as gameplay goes.

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      • Tweeg
        MVP
        • Jul 2008
        • 1414

        #4
        Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

        Originally posted by JaZart
        What was the difficulty on? This isn't good but it's not like you will ever play vs 3rd stringers? It does tell you that difficulty>ratings as far as gameplay goes.

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        It's not likely that you would ever play your 3rd string vs a team's starters, but what this does is make all roster building in franchise mode completely useless.
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        • beauforsure
          Banned
          • Oct 2009
          • 209

          #5
          Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

          yup. it does make franchise mode worthless if it doesnt matter about ratings.. why are they in there? typical EA.

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          • navaeqq
            Just started!
            • Aug 2013
            • 4

            #6
            Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

            I put an OL at TE for GB and noticed he released off the line

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            • ghettogeeksta
              Banned
              • Sep 2011
              • 2632

              #7
              Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

              Patrick Willis is a beast at TE in this game. One game so many of my players got hurt on offense that Patrick Willis had to play TE and he was beastin.

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              • GiantBlue76
                Banned
                • Jun 2007
                • 3287

                #8
                Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

                The worst part of this is the problems with the pass rush. It just goes to show you that 4-3 DEs are completely neutered in this game and their ratings mean nothing.

                So frustrating...

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                • takki
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 643

                  #9
                  Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

                  EA's Fifa series is the only sports game I've ever played where player's stats actually matter. Two players rated 80 can perform drastically different based on their body type and secondary stats.

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                  • Step2001
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 573

                    #10
                    Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

                    Sliders

                    I put my 2nd string ol in madden 13, there is a difference.....

                    Yes, putting a K in an OL spot (someone did this a few years back) and have him block DL is wrong & needs to be addressed. Same as putting the OL at the TE spot and having him not miss a beat.

                    Hopefully this is something that can be fixed with Next Gen
                    Last edited by Step2001; 08-16-2013, 02:16 AM.

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                    • R9NALD9
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1268

                      #11
                      Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

                      Originally posted by takki
                      EA's Fifa series is the only sports game I've ever played where player's stats actually matter. Two players rated 80 can perform drastically different based on their body type and secondary stats.
                      I have to disagree. Though Fifa's individuality is better than Madden's...if you have to compare it to PES's individuality it's laughable. And I'm not a PES fanboy at all, Fifa is the superior game at the moment.

                      One thing PES is probably the best at in all of sports gaming is player individuality. Players run like themselves, play like themselves. If you put your defender as a striker you have close to no chance of scoring goals (unless you go for headers). While in Fifa, if I put John Terry (defender) as a striker he still finishes quite well with his feet.
                      Last edited by R9NALD9; 08-16-2013, 02:46 AM.
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                      • Chernobyl426
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 90

                        #12
                        Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

                        Personally I think it's all about the sliders. Hopefully the true game is much more balanced.

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                        • Big FN Deal
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 5993

                          #13
                          Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

                          Originally posted by ghettogeeksta
                          Patrick Willis is a beast at TE in this game. One game so many of my players got hurt on offense that Patrick Willis had to play TE and he was beastin.
                          To anyone that might be thinking "why would these people ever be at TE in real life", let me expound a bit more. The point is that these other players, whether Patrick Willis or the OL have skill ratings for route running, acceleration, agility, etc, which should determine how they perform at any given position. Willis is an extreme injury case but with the OL I used, he was listed in the depth chart to play TE and teams use OL at TE frequently, usually for an extra blocker but sometimes in short yardage passes. Anyway, the point being that, at least in this instance, ratings only seem to matter for the outcome, ie catching or making a play on the ball but nothing else.

                          The bigger deal about all of this is that it's likely that ratings only matter for outcomes at most, if not all positions. All Kickers and punters probably animate the same, ratings just determine where the ball goes, every DE probably uses the same pass rush animations, ratings just determine which ones get more sacks, etc.

                          Unless I am completely wrong, this game is all about outcomes, with very little representation of the processes, ie it's one big shortcut of a football video game.

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                          • NDAlum
                            ND
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 11453

                            #14
                            No doubt that hurts the game to me. I hate it but choose not to let it ruin the positives that are out there.
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                            • beauforsure
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 209

                              #15
                              Re: 3rd string can still play against 1st.

                              but for franchise mode/ owner mode it kills it. I no longer will need a highly rated player to compete. lol. thats laughable , now i can use a guy rated a 60 OVR for cheap and produce the same instincts a 90OVR would. not good.

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