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  • STLRams
    MVP
    • Aug 2005
    • 2847

    #76
    Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

    Originally posted by quehouston
    2k needs to quit overhauling their controls every year, in my opinion. Stick to the basics. Do flashy passes really need their own control? I thought bounce passes were enough. What happen to players with high flashy pass tendencies throwing flashy passes automatically?

    Yeah I kind of agree, I don't want to seem like I'm playing AND1 basketball show, hopefully there is a alternate control scheme in the game, I just want the right trigger to be my shots control for jumpers, dunks layups, etc.

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    • tril
      MVP
      • Nov 2004
      • 2915

      #77
      looking forward to the new control system. 2k always keeps the game fresh by implementing new control schemes, which become second nature after a few games.

      as far as flashy passes, I would assume that will be dictated by part user and part player attribute.

      IMO it might be how it was in CH2k8, where a big man would try o do a flashy pass or some type of cross over and just stumble or turn the ball over.
      not to bring up CH2k8 again, but the game was beautiful with the passing and flashy passes being distributed by top notch ball handlers.
      Based on the new control schemes it seems like they are going for that feel again. where spotting up/proper footing for shots was key, blocks were organic, and passing was fun.

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      • Da_Czar
        NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
        • Jul 2002
        • 5408

        #78
        Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

        Originally posted by STLRams
        Yeah I kind of agree, I don't want to seem like I'm playing AND1 basketball show, hopefully there is a alternate control scheme in the game, I just want the right trigger to be my shots control for jumpers, dunks layups, etc.
        So... your advocating for less control for users ?
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        • quehouston
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          • Nov 2008
          • 723

          #79
          I really hope Ipod is right about the spin dunk part though. I hope these new controls make it harder to pull off those type of moves.
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          • vannwolfhawk
            MVP
            • Jun 2009
            • 3412

            #80
            Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

            Originally posted by Da_Czar
            So... your advocating for less control for users ?
            I think he just doesn't care to use it and doesn't want to see 25 no look passes a game. It's great they give us control over these type of passes. But I can see where people would abuse it in quick play online games because your playing kids. Online leagues and games against fellow OS sim players not an issue... I can't wait to use the passing with show time Magic! To me the controls sound great! I hated the LT+shot to shoot!
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            • Beluba
              Gameplay Director, NBA2k
              • Jul 2002
              • 1389

              #81
              Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              I'm just assuming that 2K won't allow us to use 2K13's control scheme if we want to. They're not good for **** like that. ffs, we couldn't even save sliders in 2K13.
              I left the option to use 2K13's control stick scheme in tact via the controller settings menu... but I HIGHLY recommend leaving the default control scheme as is and giving the new system a chance. The Pro Stick in 2K14 is the design I originally wanted 2 years ago, but it just wasn't ready in time for 2K13. It's far superior to last year's IMO and it's the way I'd like to go for future versions of the series.

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              • Da_Czar
                NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                • Jul 2002
                • 5408

                #82
                Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                Originally posted by Beluba
                I left the option to use 2K13's control stick scheme in tact via the controller settings menu... but I HIGHLY recommend leaving the default control scheme as is and giving the new system a chance. The Pro Stick in 2K14 is the design I originally wanted 2 years ago, but it just wasn't ready in time for 2K13. It's far superior to last year's IMO and it's the way I'd like to go for future versions of the series.
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                • RyanFitzmagic
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1959

                  #83
                  Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                  Originally posted by Da_Czar
                  So... your advocating for less control for users ?
                  I'd say he's advocating the ability to let the user decide if he wants to use the new controls or stay with the ones he's used to.

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                  • Da_Czar
                    NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5408

                    #84
                    Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                    Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                    I'd say he's advocating the ability to let the user decide if he wants to use the new controls or stay with the ones he's used to.
                    That is what your saying. LOL The person he quoted hinted at something different.
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                    • Sundown
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3270

                      #85
                      Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                      Originally posted by ccoaxum
                      if you use the bounce pass button often then you wouldn't notice how much the players do it on their own..i never use that button in the game and the players would do that type of pass on their own..when i really don't want them to do it..which cause a turnover...
                      That's not an argument to take out the manual bounce pass.

                      That's an argument to remove the automatic bounce pass at inappropriate times, and an argument for more, not less control.

                      I also pass without the bounce pass. It doesn't happen automatically that much for me. I wouldn't mind them removing auto bounce passes altogether so you always know what you're getting.

                      Now I want to know how we do Eurostep on the Pro-stick. Left-right would be a cross-over to shot in this system I think. Or does it trigger a Eurostep based on context, location, and player tendency after performing that combo? I hope it wasn't removed and you can still trigger it manually.
                      Last edited by Sundown; 08-19-2013, 03:15 PM.

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                      • nip83
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 257

                        #86
                        Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                        Originally posted by Beluba
                        I left the option to use 2K13's control stick scheme in tact via the controller settings menu... but I HIGHLY recommend leaving the default control scheme as is and giving the new system a chance. The Pro Stick in 2K14 is the design I originally wanted 2 years ago, but it just wasn't ready in time for 2K13. It's far superior to last year's IMO and it's the way I'd like to go for future versions of the series.
                        Has the post game got any love with the new pro stick, or was it necessary to cut down some options ,with the new tap-hold controls?Last year was a move into the right direction,meaning that the post game and the faceup game were like two sides of the same coin.The post scorer sig skill and the ankle breaker were like cousins ,in respect to how post fakes with the RS ,had the functionality of RS size-up dribbling.

                        I'd really love to see this kind of "post moves flowing into non-post moves" evolve.

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                        • alabamarob
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3352

                          #87
                          Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                          Originally posted by Beluba
                          I left the option to use 2K13's control stick scheme in tact via the controller settings menu... but I HIGHLY recommend leaving the default control scheme as is and giving the new system a chance. The Pro Stick in 2K14 is the design I originally wanted 2 years ago, but it just wasn't ready in time for 2K13. It's far superior to last year's IMO and it's the way I'd like to go for future versions of the series.
                          That was a very mannerable and respectful response from Beluba. It was informative, and its good that he left that option for those who don't want to try the new pro stick.

                          No matter how people come at his attempt to make a good product he never resorts to internet hooliganism. Very respectable. However, in a very polite way his real response was:

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                          • LD2k
                            2K Sports Community Manager
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1261

                            #88
                            Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                            Originally posted by Beluba
                            I left the option to use 2K13's control stick scheme in tact via the controller settings menu... but I HIGHLY recommend leaving the default control scheme as is and giving the new system a chance. The Pro Stick in 2K14 is the design I originally wanted 2 years ago, but it just wasn't ready in time for 2K13. It's far superior to last year's IMO and it's the way I'd like to go for future versions of the series.
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                            • cavs25
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 117

                              #89
                              Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                              Originally posted by Beluba
                              I left the option to use 2K13's control stick scheme in tact via the controller settings menu... but I HIGHLY recommend leaving the default control scheme as is and giving the new system a chance. The Pro Stick in 2K14 is the design I originally wanted 2 years ago, but it just wasn't ready in time for 2K13. It's far superior to last year's IMO and it's the way I'd like to go for future versions of the series.
                              But does it work well with different camera angles like broadcast or does it become somewhat confusing?

                              I mean I am not going to judge it until I play it because I judged last year's new scheme and I eventually came to like it more.

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                              • TheManofSteel3kO
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 108

                                #90
                                Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                                Ahhhh!!! The sound of the chessers complaining about changes to the game where they can't chesse anymore.

                                The control scheme changes sound so fluid in words alone, can't wait to actually feel the change when the demo is out. I already remember the change too.

                                tap RS to dribble
                                half circle RS to half spin
                                full circle RS to full spin
                                square (ps3) or x (xbox) to hop gather

                                shoot the ball hold RS
                                fadeaway move LS away from hoop and hold RS
                                sidestep move LS horizontal (left or right) and hold RS
                                so on and so forth
                                L2 or LT & RS to pass (flashy I want more info on this)

                                It's not a big deal and obviously a needed change that I'm excited to see work especially on next-gen.
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