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  • wtd03
    Rookie
    • Aug 2013
    • 156

    #1

    Do ratings matter in this game

    I play on AA both sides of the ball in this game. It seems outside of speed rating in this game that ratings arent making a difference.

    1. I can have a WR at 99 catching and he will still drop passes.

    2. I can have a HB at 99 Break tackle, Stiff arm, etc and he will still get tackled first tackle 90% of the time.

    3. A qb with 99 Throw power and accuracy will still throw off target and will not be able to out throw a receiver on a go route.

    4. The real kicker I have a 99 corner with 99 Everything just to test this out and he barely makes any int's, gets beat constantly at the line, gets pushed around like a ragdoll trying to make a tackle and my 88 rated cb is outperforming him in every category.

    So that brings me do ratings even matter in this game or are some of them negligible with others only being maybe a 10% difference?
    Last edited by wtd03; 08-19-2013, 10:47 AM.
  • icemansaggin
    Rookie
    • Jul 2013
    • 96

    #2
    Re: Do ratings matter in this game

    Personally i dont think so really.
    I play alot of ultimate team and i have Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, Champ Bailey, and Charles Woodson in my D-backfield and they will drop picks for days but i have watched (same game) my opponents linebackers and Dline catch passes (acrobatic ones too) with ease. So from that the catch rating doesnt seem to matter anymore ot a certain extent. I have also seen many qbs with no kind of break tackle/truck etc plow through dlineman and linebackers.

    I would probably say the same for AWR, TRK, BCV, SFA, SPM, CAR, SPC, CIT, RTE, TAK, BSH, MCV, ZCV, PRS (to a extent), IBL (i havent seen an impact block yet, just the CPU chip block -_- )

    Another thing i notice is the player breakdown that you can check out pre snap that tells you what kind of ratings boost or drop a certain player has. I have seen my one of my WR drop their catch rating by 15 without actually taking a single snap. Don't know too much about that feature and i havent seen too many articles written about it either.

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    • Peacefrog
      Rookie
      • Jul 2013
      • 148

      #3
      Re: Do ratings matter in this game

      It feels like momentum has a bigger impact than it really should. I play very run-heavy, both in power running and options. My "Impact" halfback always felt slow, sluggish, and fell forward on a tackle maybe 25% of the time. So one game, I drive down the field, but my HB goes out for a play to rest. I run my backup, he gets a TD. Next drive I ran a double-HB formation, and handed off to the backup. Compared to my starting HB, this guy felt like superman! So I checked his stats, and he was worse than my starter in literally every single category (spd, acc, str, trk, sfa, elu, ect ect). But his momentum was yellow, while my starter's was neutral. So I subbed him into a few formations, and ran him about 1/3 of what I did my starter. He ended up with more yards than my starter in that game, and three TD's to boot! He always fell forward, sometimes for six yards. Never dropped a pass, never fell to the first tackle. I was stunned. Overall, he was something like a 68 vs. my starter at 83.
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      • wtd03
        Rookie
        • Aug 2013
        • 156

        #4
        Re: Do ratings matter in this game

        Originally posted by Peacefrog
        It feels like momentum has a bigger impact than it really should. I play very run-heavy, both in power running and options. My "Impact" halfback always felt slow, sluggish, and fell forward on a tackle maybe 25% of the time. So one game, I drive down the field, but my HB goes out for a play to rest. I run my backup, he gets a TD. Next drive I ran a double-HB formation, and handed off to the backup. Compared to my starting HB, this guy felt like superman! So I checked his stats, and he was worse than my starter in literally every single category (spd, acc, str, trk, sfa, elu, ect ect). But his momentum was yellow, while my starter's was neutral. So I subbed him into a few formations, and ran him about 1/3 of what I did my starter. He ended up with more yards than my starter in that game, and three TD's to boot! He always fell forward, sometimes for six yards. Never dropped a pass, never fell to the first tackle. I was stunned. Overall, he was something like a 68 vs. my starter at 83.
        Yea momentum has too much of an impact on this game. You can have a 99 QB start to do terrible and his backup rated 73 look all world. The backup is playing beyond his abilities and it doesnt make any sense.

        Does anyone know EA's logic behind this?

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        • icemansaggin
          Rookie
          • Jul 2013
          • 96

          #5
          Re: Do ratings matter in this game

          Originally posted by wtd03

          Does anyone know EA's logic behind this?
          Does anyone knows EA Logic behind ANYTHING??

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          • cusefan74
            MVP
            • Jul 2010
            • 2408

            #6
            Re: Do ratings matter in this game

            Does EA have any logic?

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            • BleedGreen710
              Eagles Fan
              • Oct 2012
              • 4025

              #7
              Re: Do ratings matter in this game

              Originally posted by icemansaggin
              Another thing i notice is the player breakdown that you can check out pre snap that tells you what kind of ratings boost or drop a certain player has. I have seen my one of my WR drop their catch rating by 15 without actually taking a single snap. Don't know too much about that feature and i havent seen too many articles written about it either.
              that's not how it works. when it shows -10 route running or -5 speed or whatever it means in comparison to the defensive back/receiver

              the players actual ratings aren't effected in any way

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              • BleedGreen710
                Eagles Fan
                • Oct 2012
                • 4025

                #8
                Re: Do ratings matter in this game

                Originally posted by Peacefrog
                It feels like momentum has a bigger impact than it really should. I play very run-heavy, both in power running and options. My "Impact" halfback always felt slow, sluggish, and fell forward on a tackle maybe 25% of the time. So one game, I drive down the field, but my HB goes out for a play to rest. I run my backup, he gets a TD. Next drive I ran a double-HB formation, and handed off to the backup. Compared to my starting HB, this guy felt like superman! So I checked his stats, and he was worse than my starter in literally every single category (spd, acc, str, trk, sfa, elu, ect ect). But his momentum was yellow, while my starter's was neutral. So I subbed him into a few formations, and ran him about 1/3 of what I did my starter. He ended up with more yards than my starter in that game, and three TD's to boot! He always fell forward, sometimes for six yards. Never dropped a pass, never fell to the first tackle. I was stunned. Overall, he was something like a 68 vs. my starter at 83.
                sounds like your starter was fatigued

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                • ggsimmonds
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11235

                  #9
                  Re: Do ratings matter in this game

                  Ratings absolutely do matter. I am in year 4 of my dynasty and the previous year I had a excellent line where my lowest rated player was a 82 freshman RT. I could run excellently against most teams and rarely was stopped behind the line. I also had very few sacks.

                  This current season however is different; all the guys from last year (save for that RT) have either graduated or went pro. The RT is now a 88 and my best lineman. And my running game is noticeably worse (same RB btw). Previously my linemen could block at the second level after coming off the double team. Now I see unblocked LBs tackling me near the line. Through 3 games I have been sacked 11 times

                  I also lost my best WR who was 95 ovr and route running was 97. He has been replaced by a 89 ovr WR with 99 speed, agi, and acc but route running of 82. Now certain routes (the basic ones) the kid does fine, but many routes there is a noticable drop off. Even though he is faster, he does not get as open as the guy from last season.

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                  • icemansaggin
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 96

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                    that's not how it works. when it shows -10 route running or -5 speed or whatever it means in comparison to the defensive back/receiver

                    the players actual ratings aren't effected in any way
                    Cool. Didn't even know that.

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                    • Sundown2600
                      Brake less...Go Faster!
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 1362

                      #11
                      Re: Do ratings matter in this game

                      This question is like asking the Pope for all of the mysteries of the church. You will never get an answer.

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                      • Gravit
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 98

                        #12
                        Re: Do ratings matter in this game

                        I don't have the game yet but plan to get it soon and this is important info to know since I only coach with cpu vs cpu enabled. So for this "momentum thing," can this option be turned off or tweaked? Also, there is still coach mode right? Haven't played NCAA since '12 or '11.

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                        • Peacefrog
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 148

                          #13
                          Re: Do ratings matter in this game

                          Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                          sounds like your starter was fatigued
                          That's what I thought initially as well. But even after halftime, he just seemed sluggish compared to the much lower-rated backup.

                          As an update, that backup has 450 yds rushing over three games behind a garbage O-line and against better teams (I'm playing as Old Dominion, so almost every team is better). He's got the "hotstreak" label, and might make a legit push for the Heisman.
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                          • dghustla
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 721

                            #14
                            Re: Do ratings matter in this game

                            90% of the ratings don't matter in the game.

                            Key Ratings that don't matter
                            Run Block- can run on anyone with anyone
                            Jump
                            route running
                            man coverage
                            zone coverage
                            hit power
                            finese move
                            power move
                            blk shed: primary in run defense.

                            ratings that matter
                            speed
                            agi
                            acc
                            thp
                            tha
                            cth
                            spn


                            everything else is arbitrary fluff

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                            • wtd03
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 156

                              #15
                              Re: Do ratings matter in this game

                              Originally posted by dghustla
                              90% of the ratings don't matter in the game.

                              Key Ratings that don't matter
                              Run Block- can run on anyone with anyone
                              Jump
                              route running
                              man coverage
                              zone coverage
                              hit power
                              finese move
                              power move
                              blk shed: primary in run defense.

                              ratings that matter
                              speed
                              agi
                              acc
                              thp
                              tha
                              cth
                              spn


                              everything else is arbitrary fluff
                              Fatigue and stamina matter as well, I can verify a db with 99 catching and 99 spectacular catch DOES NOT matter. He still will drop balls. However a WR with these same ratings he hardly ever drops balls. Its like some of the offensive ratings only matter and are registered by the game when you are on offense even though a defensive cb can have the same thing

                              ball carrying doesnt matter(for the CPU at least)
                              I made manziel have a 0 ball carry rating and he never fumbles

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