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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33679

    #1

    OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore


    It’s the 37th Episode of the Press Row Podcast, a one-on-one interview with Donny Moore (@Donny_Moore) – otherwise known as Madden’s “Ratings Czar” – and host Rich Grisham (@RichGrisham). The two discuss the overall ratings process, the challenges that he faces, which players are coming in as the best-rated players at each position, some of the biggest movers and shakers since last year, and a position-by-position breakdown of the most important attributes. It’s a fascinating glimpse at a key aspect of the overall Madden experience.
    Joining us this week:
    Donny Moore, EA Sports (@Donny_Moore)
    And your host, Richard Grisham, GamesRadar (@richgrisham)
    Send us your feedback! We love to hear from you and can’t wait to read your stuff on the air in a future episode. Do it one of these ways:

    1) Follow the show on Twitter at @PressRowPodcast and send us some Tweets while you’re there
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    Also, the Press Row Podcast is now available on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...ow/id563624090) and Stitcher Radio (http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/oper...ss-row-podcast), so subscribe to it and rate it too!

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  • GiantBlue76
    Banned
    • Jun 2007
    • 3287

    #2
    Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

    One of the things that drives me nuts is that the ratings change weekly. I thought ratings were supposed to represent the players ability as a whole, not based on individual performances. A larger sample size should be used to determine a player's skills, not a weekly performance. Jerry Rice had weeks where he dropped a couple of passes, does that mean that he now has bad hands and his ability to catch the football has declined? Come on...

    It was nice to get some nice info on what the ratings mean and at least come to find out that a blog will come out explaining it.

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    • Dave58
      Rookie
      • Oct 2012
      • 12

      #3
      They don't have anything else to talk about. It's the same gimmick over and over. They Push you away from what really matters because it's the same game every year.

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      • Gorilla Glass
        MVP
        • Aug 2010
        • 1139

        #4
        Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

        Can Donny Moore please tell me how rookie of the year Robert Griffin III (who started off last year as an 83) ended up only an 89, when Russell Wilson (who started off last year as 70 overall) is now tied with RG3 at 89? He moves Russell 19 points and RG3 a measly six points.

        Alfred Morris ran for a little more than 1600 and he is rated 87. How does Donny explain the logic of a big jump for one but not the other?

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        • slick589
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 1285

          #5
          Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

          I really wish they would go back to spread out the ratings. Too many 93's and above.

          I think anything above 93 should be reserved for hall of fame players.

          The problem with ratings besides the fact that they really don't make much of a difference in game is that EA simply uses them as a hype mechanism.

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          • StreetCarp
            Rookie
            • Jul 2010
            • 121

            #6
            Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

            Originally posted by Gorilla Glass
            Can Donny Moore please tell me how rookie of the year Robert Griffin III (who started off last year as an 83) ended up only an 89, when Russell Wilson (who started off last year as 70 overall) is now tied with RG3 at 89? He moves Russell 19 points and RG3 a measly six points.

            Alfred Morris ran for a little more than 1600 and he is rated 87. How does Donny explain the logic of a big jump for one but not the other?
            Are you aware that the pre-2012 expectations for RG3 and Wilson were significantly different but they ended up playing about equally as well as one another? They should both be 89 now.

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            • msdm27
              Pro
              • Nov 2009
              • 956

              #7
              Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

              Originally posted by StreetCarp
              Are you aware that the pre-2012 expectations for RG3 and Wilson were significantly different but they ended up playing about equally as well as one another? They should both be 89 now.
              Well, in reality, they both should be much lower OVR.... the ratings are too effing high. But yes, but should be rated about equal.

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              • Gorilla Glass
                MVP
                • Aug 2010
                • 1139

                #8
                Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

                Originally posted by StreetCarp
                Are you aware that the pre-2012 expectations for RG3 and Wilson were significantly different but they ended up playing about equally as well as one another? They should both be 89 now.
                That makes zero sense. If they both played the same and one player only moved six points and the other 19, then it's lopsided. If we actually went off your logic, 90% of players would be rated 99s. Kill it man.

                Then other guys like Alfred Morrison who also had low pre 2012 expectations only move a few points and was in the running for ROY move a few points, kills what you typed.

                I thought I went over this in my initial post....

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                • Gorilla Glass
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1139

                  #9
                  Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

                  Originally posted by Gorilla Glass
                  That makes zero sense. If they both played the same and one player only moved six points and the other 19, then it's lopsided. If we actually went off your logic, 90% of players would be rated 99s. Kill it man.

                  Then other guys like Alfred Morrison who also had low pre 2012 expectations only move a few points and was in the running for ROY move a few points, kills what you typed.

                  I thought I went over this in my initial post....
                  Then on top of what I posted, Russell Wilson didn't get hot until like week 5. RG3 stayed hot from beginning to the end, but Wilson catches him in ratings????? Really???

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                  • ggsimmonds
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11235

                    #10
                    Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

                    Originally posted by Gorilla Glass
                    That makes zero sense. If they both played the same and one player only moved six points and the other 19, then it's lopsided. If we actually went off your logic, 90% of players would be rated 99s. Kill it man.

                    Then other guys like Alfred Morrison who also had low pre 2012 expectations only move a few points and was in the running for ROY move a few points, kills what you typed.

                    I thought I went over this in my initial post....
                    What? Russell Wilson turned out to be far better than most people expected. That is why he had a bigger jump, he was rated very low initially. RG3 "only" went up 6 points because his attributes were good to begin with. How would his logic result in 90% of players being rated 99?

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                    • Gorilla Glass
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1139

                      #11
                      Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

                      Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                      What? Russell Wilson turned out to be far better than most people expected. That is why he had a bigger jump, he was rated very low initially. RG3 "only" went up 6 points because his attributes were good to begin with. How would his logic result in 90% of players being rated 99?
                      Russell Wilson struggled out the gate. Guys either move up for what the do on the field or not. Again if both do the samething every Sunday, why would spike one guy over the other? Its not right.
                      RG3 did it with a rookie HB, while Wilson had Lynch. RG3 did it with a 32nd rank defense, will Wilson did it with a top five. Throw in the schedule of tough played games. Throw in all those variables, then RG3 definitely got the green weenie

                      Its not fair to the rating system or the players putting in the work. Its straight line logic here, not rocket science.

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                      • Gorilla Glass
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 1139

                        #12
                        Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

                        Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                        What? Russell Wilson turned out to be far better than most people expected. That is why he had a bigger jump, he was rated very low initially. RG3 "only" went up 6 points because his attributes were good to begin with. How would his logic result in 90% of players being rated 99?
                        Also RG3 attributes were higher because of the work he put in at college and being the Heisman trophy winner. Just because a guy comes in with high ratings doesn't necessarily mean he needs to hang there, especially if he exceeds his ratings.

                        Everyone had Luck having the better season and he threw a boatload of INTs, so...

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                        • SeattleSeahavvks
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 103

                          #13
                          Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

                          Originally posted by Gorilla Glass
                          Also RG3 attributes were higher because of the work he put in at college and being the Heisman trophy winner. Just because a guy comes in with high ratings doesn't necessarily mean he needs to hang there, especially if he exceeds his ratings.

                          Everyone had Luck having the better season and he threw a boatload of INTs, so...
                          The hommerism is strong in this one

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                          • TheKingOfVa
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 2218

                            #14
                            Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

                            Originally posted by Gorilla Glass
                            Also RG3 attributes were higher because of the work he put in at college and being the Heisman trophy winner. Just because a guy comes in with high ratings doesn't necessarily mean he needs to hang there, especially if he exceeds his ratings.

                            Everyone had Luck having the better season and he threw a boatload of INTs, so...
                            I agree with you, RG3 should be a 90.

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                            • Gorilla Glass
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1139

                              #15
                              Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

                              Originally posted by SeattleSeahavvks
                              The hommerism is strong in this one
                              Its not about whatever the nonexistent word you used. Its about how Donny rates players or not, based on his opinions alone.

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